New Owner of Important Fitness Equipment.

[Tombo]

Who in their right mind would refer any of their PATIENTS to this guy? you might have your foot in the door, but thats as far as you'll get because based on your bullshitting around everything here, you have been as successful as the % of small businesses that fail each year, just don't hurt anyone Vince!

[Necrosis]

That only applies to medical doctors who wish to incorporate naturapathy into their conventional practice..... .

 I am a naturopathic practitioner which means I only use naturpathic methods and I do not use conventional medicine or do surgeries or give prescriptions.  There are courses that still have to be done and I've already done them.

And if someone paid $100,000 for courses in naturapathy, then they aren't too bright.  There's no true governing body or accredition for it because its not even recognized in the United States. 

no you are not moron im attending a naturopathic medical school i have a neuroscience degree have go to class 50 hours a week for 4 more years, making my education a total o 9 years. there are 5 schools right now that are accredited and bestow the title naturopathic doctor., the main one in the states is bastyr college. you are not a naturopathic doctor unless you have done at least 7 years worth of school and have pre med. i do anatomy, phys, immunology, histopathology, embryology, botanical med, etc etc.. my school only teaches things that have evidence and science behind it, none of this vibrational machined non sense, or allergy elimination techniques.

"And if someone paid $100,000 for courses in naturapathy, then they aren't too bright.  There's no true governing body or accredition for it because its not even recognized in the United States."


incorrect your talking out of your ass. 

[Rimbaud]

Melvin,

Why don't you scan your degree so everyone can see where it's from...

...just a thought to help add legitamacy to your claims.

[theworm]

Ok "doctor"   lol.


modern day quackery.


good luck with your scam, I mean biz.   poor people of cherokee...

[Havenbull]

I'm reporting this to www.quackwatch.org

 

[onlyme]

I'm only 1/3 of the entire business and the majority owner as it will be my funds that will primarily start the business.  I still have 2 other partners that are going in with me on this venture and they both have equal say in it as well.

Honestly, Vince, I wonder how much time you spend obsessing about me.  You're the only person who called my hotel room and tried to talk to me like some groupie or something which was kind of pathetic in my opinion. 

The only other thing you talk about other than me is Arnold cheating you and etc. 

[/quote]

Jeez I hope you don't take advantage of the ignorance and stupidity of SquadFatty and Medford.  Just because they are your partners give them some chores to do.  Have SquadFatty take the "before" pics, he is a great photographer.  Have Medford stand outside and hold a sign.  It is good at that.

Medford all I know is I am not to fat to tie my own shoes.  You should have had the guy at Payless tie them for you.  You are a fucking mess.

[Necrosis]

complementary and alternative medicine is the medicine of the future with people like dr andrew weil leading the way, this moron is just trying to earn a buck off people with real edcuation

[Deadpool]

 

donutme...there, there, go eat some more.  You must be hungry on your 100,000 calorie a day "diet"

[Vince B]

This thread is an all-time classic on Getbig. Preposterous claims and absurd reality supported by personal attacks. When all seems lost attack the critics.

Melvin claimed the bank manager was 'licking his chops' after seeing Melvin's wellness clinic plan. That really exposed Melvin as a bullshitter because no bank manager lends money for business enterprises unless you have security such as property. Then we find that Melvin has 2 partners who have an equal say but Melvin is still the majority owner. How can that be?

Some advice to hapless Melvin who has no clue about being in business with partners. Make sure you have 51% of the business otherwise the other two partners can take over the business.

It doesn't matter what anyone tells Melvin because he represents the theatre of the absurd with one crazy scheme after another. He is the Walter Mitty of Getbig. He is always going to show everyone with his physique or brains but comes up nothing.

[The Squadfather]

Jeez I hope you don't take advantage of the ignorance and stupidity of SquadFatty and Medford.  Just because they are your partners give them some chores to do.  Have SquadFatty take the "before" pics, he is a great photographer.  Have Medford stand outside and hold a sign.  It is good at that.

Medford all I know is I am not to fat to tie my own shoes.  You should have had the guy at Payless tie them for you.  You are a fucking mess.

hahaha, why do you make me do it? do you hate yourself that much?

[Krankenstein]

I took those ads down from Ebay because I'm changing the format of sales to OScommerce and AuctionBlox to manage both website sales and Ebay sales.

Fact is that I've already checked with the insurance companies directly about the billing codes and I've already had that cleared with them as to what can be billed and overall the determination will be based on the client essentially.  If someone comes off the streets for vibration therapy, then he'd be billed out of pocket for the sessions which would be minimal anyway as the machines don't require no more than turning them on and setting the display level.  However if they are referred to me for rehab, then thats completely different.

Overall, its my problem to worry about. If it isn't reimbursed, then the client is billed for it directly.  The services that will be offered will be affordable anyway  because a vibration therapy session is going to be priced around $30.00. 

And I won't worry about the paperless office requirement until 2009 but digital signature tablets are not going to be expensive

Like I said, I may simply bring in a medical doctor or chiropractor into the fold to  make things much easier or I may just work out a smaller business model.


Life of an entrepenuer......    

Have you checked with SPECIFIC policies Melvin?  Again, some policies will pay for therapy...some will not.  I also am still curious as to how you plan on billing without an NPI number.  I find it funny that you are basically saying that you checked with "insurance companies" as if calling Aetna or Blue Cross will tell you what each individual policy will cover.  Again, what do you plan on doing about documentation?  Will you have the required initial exams?  Will you know what is required for usage of the 99 codes for exams?  Are you aware of what constitutes medical necessity?  Do you have the necessary documents for informed concent?  You see, I get the distinct impression that you think its going to be as easy as buying a stim, vibration, and infra-red machine bill and insurance company....get paid....yay!!!!

[Vince B]

I am starting to wonder if Melvin lives in some sheltered home where he is supervised. The guy has all these projects going and is treading water way over his head.

[Havenbull]

Let's not forget the small business loan.  Based on his prior "internet business" he may or may not need to purchase a shelf corporation. 

If he wants the office to look anywhere respectable, he should probably plunk down at least $20-30,000 just in fixtures, HVAC, carpentry, lease down payment etc etc.

Since this is not an established franchise he is buying into, he does not luckily have to pay a franchise fee... but the bank will also want to see some sort of living income savings of at least six months.  Not to mention he will have to pay a company like ADP for payroll sevices, amongst other things like insurance and marketing.

The list goes on.

Can Melvin be saved from this doomed venure?

[Vince B]

The smart money bets that no wellness clinic will be opened by Dr Melvin Goodrum and associates.

[Deadpool]

 

Medford all I know is I am not to fat to tie my own shoes.  You should have had the guy at Payless tie them for you.  

Feel free to duplicate these poses! 

[The Squadfather]

Feel free to duplicate these poses! 

lonelysemen doesn't wear shoes, no stores carry EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE width shoes.

[SteelePegasus]

Feel free to duplicate these poses! 

clearly you are able to move around and lead an active lifestyle. I don't understand why onlyme would choose to fight someone that is 10x more inshape than he is.

He would never post another pic of himself on here ever again

I am seriously concerned for his health condition, being that obese always lead to a ton other health problems

[onlyme]

hahaha, why do you make me do it? do you hate yourself that much?

hahahah moron I see you took the pics of your sister Medford.  Same distinct style.  YOU CAN'T SEE SHIT.  Pretty sure Meford tore a hamstring trying to prove it can reach its shoes.  hahaah what a family tree you have,

[Melvin Goodrum]

Have you checked with SPECIFIC policies Melvin?  Again, some policies will pay for therapy...some will not.  I also am still curious as to how you plan on billing without an NPI number.  I find it funny that you are basically saying that you checked with "insurance companies" as if calling Aetna or Blue Cross will tell you what each individual policy will cover.  Again, what do you plan on doing about documentation?  Will you have the required initial exams?  Will you know what is required for usage of the 99 codes for exams?  Are you aware of what constitutes medical necessity?  Do you have the necessary documents for informed concent?  You see, I get the distinct impression that you think its going to be as easy as buying a stim, vibration, and infra-red machine bill and insurance company....get paid....yay!!!!

Right, some things can be billed and some cannot be.  I already know that.  What I'm focused mainly on right now is the structure and services offered as well as atmosphere and format of the clinic.  Billing is important as it pertains to revenue but the method of billing isn't because I can either hire someone to do it or I can pay a third party company.

[Melvin Goodrum]

Let's not forget the small business loan.  Based on his prior "internet business" he may or may not need to purchase a shelf corporation. 

If he wants the office to look anywhere respectable, he should probably plunk down at least $20-30,000 just in fixtures, HVAC, carpentry, lease down payment etc etc.

Since this is not an established franchise he is buying into, he does not luckily have to pay a franchise fee... but the bank will also want to see some sort of living income savings of at least six months.  Not to mention he will have to pay a company like ADP for payroll sevices, amongst other things like insurance and marketing.

The list goes on.

Can Melvin be saved from this doomed venure?

This is where being African-American has its advantages.  I don't have to go to any bank just like I didn't have to for my first business venture, there's plenty of federal funding available for established minority-owned businesses.  In other words, money was never an issue to begin with.  Why do you think I am going to be the principal owner of this business for???  Its because I can get the funding for opening up a business such as this....

Hopefully, I'm not asked about the funding anymore because money isn't an issue

 

[Krankenstein]

Right, some things can be billed and some cannot be.  I already know that.  What I'm focused mainly on right now is the structure and services offered as well as atmosphere and format of the clinic.  Billing is important as it pertains to revenue but the method of billing isn't because I can either hire someone to do it or I can pay a third party company.

Third time melvin...how do you plan on billing insurances when you do not have the qualifications (either md, dc, or specific nursing degree) in order to do so.  NPI numbers are what is required for billing.....these are the following people that can get one....

Please select the radio button which most applies to you or your organization: 
 
Type 1:  An individual who renders health care services. (Example: Dentist, Chiropractor, Pharmacist) 
 
Type 2:  An organization that renders health care services. (Example: Hospital, Nursing Facility, Pharmacy)

I am VERY curious...how ya gonna do it Melvin?

[Melvin Goodrum]

Third time melvin...how do you plan on billing insurances when you do not have the qualifications (either md, dc, or specific nursing degree) in order to do so.  NPI numbers are what is required for billing.....these are the following people that can get one....

Please select the radio button which most applies to you or your organization: 
 
Type 1:  An individual who renders health care services. (Example: Dentist, Chiropractor, Pharmacist) 
 
Type 2:  An organization that renders health care services. (Example: Hospital, Nursing Facility, Pharmacy)

I am VERY curious...how ya gonna do it Melvin?

Uuh...Type 1 of course.... .

[Krankenstein]

Uuh...Type 1 of course.... .

Being that you think you know so much...perhaps this will enlighten you.

Healthcare Service Providers

‘‘Healthcare provider” 45 CFR 160.103: Healthcare provider means a provider of services (as defined in section 1861(u) of the Act, 42 U.S.C. 1395x (u)), a provider of medical or health services (as defined in section 1861(s) of the Act, 42 U.S.C. 1395x(s)), and any other person or organization who furnishes, bills, or is paid for healthcare in the normal course of business. Examples of healthcare providers included in this definition are: Physicians and other practitioners; hospitals and other institutional providers; suppliers of durable medical equipment, supplies related to healthcare, prosthetics, and orthotics; pharmacies and pharmacists; and group practices. There are individuals and organizations that furnish atypical or nontraditional services that are indirectly healthcare-related, such as taxi, home and vehicle modifications, habilitation, and respite services. These types of services are discussed in the Transactions Rule at 65 FR 50315. As stated in that Rule, many of these services do not qualify as healthcare services because the services do not fall within our definition of ‘‘healthcare.’’ An individual or organization must determine if it provides any services that fall within our definition of ‘‘healthcare’’ at § 160.103. If it does provide those services, it is considered a healthcare provider and would be eligible for an NPI. If it does not, and does not provide other services or supplies that bring it within the definition of ‘‘healthcare provider,’’ it would not be a healthcare provider under HIPAA, and would not be eligible to receive an NPI.

Healthcare Services Providers:

Ambulatory Surgical Center    
Audiologist    
Chiropractor    
Clinical Nurse Specialist    
Clinical Psychologist    
Community Service Board    
Dental Clinic    
Dentist    
Durable Medical Equipment/Supplies    
Education Services    
Emergency Transportation    
Federally Qualified Health Center    
Health Department Clinic    
Home Health Agency    
Hospice    
Hospital    
Independent Laboratory    
Intermediate Care Facility    
Licensed Clinical Social Worker    
Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist    
Licensed Professional Counselor    
Long Stay Hospital    
Nurse Anesthetist
Nurse Midwife
Nurse Practitioner
Occupational Therapist (Medicare crossover)
Optician
Optometrist
Outpatient Rehab Facility
Pharmacy
Physical Therapist (Medicare crossover)
Physician
Physician Assistant (Medicare crossover)
Podiatrist
Private Mental Hospital
Prosthetic Services
Psych Residential Inpatient Facility
Rehab Agency
Rehab Hospital
Renal Unit
Rural Health Clinic
Skilled Nursing Facility
Skilled Private Duty Nursing
State Mental Hospital
Substance Abuse Clinic



So Melvin....where do you see a Doctor of Metaphysics on there?

[Melvin Goodrum]

Being that you think you know so much...perhaps this will enlighten you.

Healthcare Service Providers

‘‘Healthcare provider” 45 CFR 160.103: Healthcare provider means a provider of services (as defined in section 1861(u) of the Act, 42 U.S.C. 1395x (u)), a provider of medical or health services (as defined in section 1861(s) of the Act, 42 U.S.C. 1395x(s)), and any other person or organization who furnishes, bills, or is paid for healthcare in the normal course of business. Examples of healthcare providers included in this definition are: Physicians and other practitioners; hospitals and other institutional providers; suppliers of durable medical equipment, supplies related to healthcare, prosthetics, and orthotics; pharmacies and pharmacists; and group practices. There are individuals and organizations that furnish atypical or nontraditional services that are indirectly healthcare-related, such as taxi, home and vehicle modifications, habilitation, and respite services. These types of services are discussed in the Transactions Rule at 65 FR 50315. As stated in that Rule, many of these services do not qualify as healthcare services because the services do not fall within our definition of ‘‘healthcare.’’ An individual or organization must determine if it provides any services that fall within our definition of ‘‘healthcare’’ at § 160.103. If it does provide those services, it is considered a healthcare provider and would be eligible for an NPI. If it does not, and does not provide other services or supplies that bring it within the definition of ‘‘healthcare provider,’’ it would not be a healthcare provider under HIPAA, and would not be eligible to receive an NPI.

Healthcare Services Providers:

Ambulatory Surgical Center    
Audiologist    
Chiropractor    
Clinical Nurse Specialist    
Clinical Psychologist    
Community Service Board    
Dental Clinic    
Dentist    
Durable Medical Equipment/Supplies    
Education Services    
Emergency Transportation    
Federally Qualified Health Center    
Health Department Clinic    
Home Health Agency    
Hospice    
Hospital    
Independent Laboratory    
Intermediate Care Facility    
Licensed Clinical Social Worker    
Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist    
Licensed Professional Counselor    
Long Stay Hospital    
Nurse Anesthetist
Nurse Midwife
Nurse Practitioner
Occupational Therapist (Medicare crossover)
Optician
Optometrist
Outpatient Rehab Facility
Pharmacy
Physical Therapist (Medicare crossover)
Physician
Physician Assistant (Medicare crossover)
Podiatrist
Private Mental Hospital
Prosthetic Services
Psych Residential Inpatient Facility
Rehab Agency
Rehab Hospital
Renal Unit
Rural Health Clinic
Skilled Nursing Facility
Skilled Private Duty Nursing
State Mental Hospital
Substance Abuse Clinic



So Melvin....where do you see a Doctor of Metaphysics on there?

How about if I enlighten you again that I have 2 other partners in the venture as well and that I will be certified as a physical therapist and rehab by the time the business even opens.  I live in Sylva right next to Western Carolina University where I am taking online study classes as well as doing night training as well. 



I'm covered on my end but obviously some stuff will be billed and other cannot.  Big deal.  Any other questions 

[onlyme]

This isn't to rag in you but I see you really use the internet to get ALL your education and experience.  Is it that much easier than actually going to school and do people treat an internet based degree like they do one you get from actually going to school.  Also,  though I think the concept might be okay I really don't feel the location is good at all.  You can have the best business around but if the location is bad then it isn't worth shit.  Why would you pick a place like this to put in a business like yours.  Just wondering