New Owner of Important Fitness Equipment.

[Melvin Goodrum]

This isn't to rag in you but I see you really use the internet to get ALL your education and experience.  Is it that much easier than actually going to school and do people treat an internet based degree like they do one you get from actually going to school.  Also,  though I think the concept might be okay I really don't feel the location is good at all.  You can have the best business around but if the location is bad then it isn't worth shit.  Why would you pick a place like this to put in a business like yours.  Just wondering

I do rely on distance education because I have a busy schedule and I learn a lot more because I'm not distracted so much.


I did the full time student/live on campus thing for about 2 years.  I didn't pay much in dorm fees as it wasn't expensive but its hard to work with 3 other people in the room and it was cramp.  Also wasn't good for dates because I would obviously have to rent a hotel or something.  Then the classes, if I was lucky the teacher would actually be there but quite a few times, there was nothing but a fucking tape recorder or DVD or film projector playing in the front room.  Screw that, if I'm paying 15,000 a year in tuition then I want a teacher there every single day when they were suppose to be there.  All of that and running to classes here and there and eating cafeteria food.  I don't mind Mars Hill's breakfast because those Belguim waffles were the shit but lunch and dinner was a toss up.  The majority of my college tuition I still owe is from attending college full time as a student because its just so expensive.

Distance training is better.  I get my books, DVD's and or paperwork by mail,  I work on my own time in the comfort of my home without the three roommates but on the weekends, I can get a lot of shit done.  I take the same test and pass them and that's it.  Its much less expensive and I actually learn more because I've always been a self-starter myself.  On certain courses, I do have to come in at night for a live training session and demonstration and I'll have to with the physical therapy.


As far as my sheepskin is concerned, its the same as the ones who spent all that money running back and forth and etc.  It doesn't say anywhere that it was distance study course and I'm still able to the graduation party if I want to.  Education is about learning, not about how much you spend or how you got your training.  If you can run your business right, then its all good.   

Overall, you just have to look at the price.  An Ashworth University bach degree in Business for example is only $9,600 dollars whereas one at Mars Hill College would be around $60,000-100,000.  Both hold the exact same accreditations so its accepted in any business medium.     

[Havenbull]

I do rely on distance education because I have a busy schedule and I learn a lot more because I'm not distracted so much.


I did the full time student/live on campus thing for about 2 years.  I didn't pay much in dorm fees as it wasn't expensive but its hard to work with 3 other people in the room and it was cramp.  Also wasn't good for dates because I would obviously have to rent a hotel or something.  Then the classes, if I was lucky the teacher would actually be there but quite a few times, there was nothing but a fucking tape recorder or DVD or film projector playing in the front room.  Screw that, if I'm paying 15,000 a year in tuition then I want a teacher there every single day when they were suppose to be there.  All of that and running to classes here and there and eating cafeteria food.  I don't mind Mars Hill's breakfast because those Belguim waffles were the shit but lunch and dinner was a toss up.  The majority of my college tuition I still owe is from attending college full time as a student because its just so expensive.

Distance training is better.  I get my books, DVD's and or paperwork by mail,  I work on my own time in the comfort of my home without the three roommates but on the weekends, I can get a lot of shit done.  I take the same test and pass them and that's it.  Its much less expensive and I actually learn more because I've always been a self-starter myself.  On certain courses, I do have to come in at night for a live training session and demonstration and I'll have to with the physical therapy.


As far as my sheepskin is concerned, its the same as the ones who spent all that money running back and forth and etc.  It doesn't say anywhere that it was distance study course and I'm still able to the graduation party if I want to.  Education is about learning, not about how much you spend or how you got your training.  If you can run your business right, then its all good.   

Overall, you just have to look at the price.  An Ashworth University bach degree in Business for example is only $9,600 dollars whereas one at Mars Hill College would be around $60,000-100,000.  Both hold the exact same accreditations so its accepted in any business medium.     

HAHAHA most people i know who failed out of college just man up and say it.

Not Melvin... hahahahaha that is the most diluted, round-about way of saying "failed out" I have ever seen or heard

hahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vince B]

Melvin, there are people on Getbig with accredited masters and doctorates. It is one thing to study and save money and quite another to obtain a proper PhD. Trust me, a PhD degree from a recognized university like Harvard is totally beyond you. You are not fooling anyone on Getbig with your home-study doctorate. Your 'degrees' have no academic standing and you are a fraud to use the title doctor. 

We thought Vince G CSN MFT was dangerous. Little did we know that Dr Melvin Goodrum was lurking in the background.

[theworm]

hey melvin,

pay me 1000 dollars, and I will give you your astronaut certificate, and you can fly spaceships.  PM me to find out where to send money to.

[The Master]

Melvin, there are people on Getbig with accredited masters and doctorates. It is one thing to study and save money and quite another to obtain a proper PhD. Trust me, a PhD degree from a recognized university like Harvard is totally beyond you. You are not fooling anyone on Getbig with your home-study doctorate. Your 'degrees' have no academic standing and you are a fraud to use the title doctor. 

We thought Vince G CSN MFT was dangerous. Little did we know that Dr Melvin Goodrum was lurking in the background.

Chaps! Let's go into the woods and play dungeons and dragons! Come on chaps! Melvin!

[The Squadfather]

hey melvin,

pay me 1000 dollars, and I will give you your astronaut certificate, and you can fly spaceships.  PM me to find out where to send money to.

he could just save 998 dollars and just get the Astronaut certificate out of the Cracker Jack box like he got his "medical degree".

[240 is Back]

I must say - I admire Melvin Goodrum for reinventing himself and dedicating himself to a goal like this.

My only advice for you Vince - and I learned this the hard way - is to pick one thing and stick with it.  I was an elementary teacher who become a network adminstrator who became a programmer who became a career counselor who became a web designer.  ALl that 'starting over' meant that i was always paying my dues and learning new trades, never achieving thei high pay that comes with getting GREAT at something.  I mean, I was a good teacher, a good netadmin, a good counselor, but I never was great enough at something to warrant making a good living from it.  So that's all I can offer - stick to one arena.

Congrats on the business venture - I think once you get over the initial paperwork headaches and 'getting known', you'll find success with this. 

[Vince B]

Dr Goodrum knows the price of everything but the value of nothing.

[Krankenstein]

How about if I enlighten you again that I have 2 other partners in the venture as well and that I will be certified as a physical therapist and rehab by the time the business even opens.  I live in Sylva right next to Western Carolina University where I am taking online study classes as well as doing night training as well. 

I'm covered on my end but obviously some stuff will be billed and other cannot.  Big deal.  Any other questions 

Thats all Melvin....simple wasnt it?  You have such a hard time answering direct questions.  How many posts did it take for you to answer that?  Its like when you were in the car wreck and I offered some advice for you on things.  Doing practice management is something I get paid for and WELL.  I have show offices how to weed through the bullshit with insurance companies that they didnt think they could.  If you werent such a dick you would find that people really dont mind helping out.  Seriously....I even offered to help you out in the past with dieting.  Instead you became arrogant and so I realized that you weren't worth my time.  I sure hope that you dont have that persona in business.

[Vince B]

Yeah, I offered to find a place for Melvin to stay in Sydney (free of charge and not at my place) and let him work at my gym while I trained him to be a proper instructor and then built himself up. What does he do? Puts a post up suggesting I am a poof or something. Well, I am merely trying to help Melvin. God knows he can barely help himself. If my gym were in California instead of Sydney would he have refused the offer? I don't train anyone either in bodybuilding or as an instructor. I don't sell my knowledge. So Melvin would have had some invaluable training. I doubt he would appreciate what I have to teach him.

I know what it is like to come from a poor family and battle away. Melvin dismisses my gym equipment because I painted some pieces a purple colour. Only on Getbig could a dunce put down the only bicep machine that received a patent in the US in living memory.

I also know what it is like to spend years at universities doing the courses and attending lectures and seminars. Anyone who sends away for a doctorate and uses it in his business is devoid of intellectual honesty. I give anyone credit if they have a decent university degree. In the meantime, charlatans like Melvin can expect more of the same.

[Vince B]

Melvin wrote:"I live in Sylva right next to Western Carolina University where I am taking online study classes as well as doing night training as well." 

Isn't that University 7 miles out of Sylva? Doesn't sound like next door.

http://www.townofsylva.org/

[Melvin Goodrum]

Melvin wrote:"I live in Sylva right next to Western Carolina University where I am taking online study classes as well as doing night training as well." 

Isn't that University 7 miles out of Sylva? Doesn't sound like next door.

http://www.townofsylva.org/

 7 miles....

[Melvin Goodrum]

I must say - I admire Melvin Goodrum for reinventing himself and dedicating himself to a goal like this.

My only advice for you Vince - and I learned this the hard way - is to pick one thing and stick with it.  I was an elementary teacher who become a network adminstrator who became a programmer who became a career counselor who became a web designer.  ALl that 'starting over' meant that i was always paying my dues and learning new trades, never achieving thei high pay that comes with getting GREAT at something.  I mean, I was a good teacher, a good netadmin, a good counselor, but I never was great enough at something to warrant making a good living from it.  So that's all I can offer - stick to one arena.

Congrats on the business venture - I think once you get over the initial paperwork headaches and 'getting known', you'll find success with this. 

I haven't changed my business standing, I'm simply expanding onto an already successful business.  Its my business that is now allowing me the opportunity to take it to the next step.  Trust me on this.

[onlyme]

I haven't changed my business standing, I'm simply expanding onto an already successful business.  Its my business that is now allowing me the opportunity to take it to the next step.  Trust me on this.

Vince I want to know why did you pick that location.  Are there other business's like it in the area you got comps from?  How did you figure out projections?  What is your customer base based on?  What is the daily traffic flow by your location?  Starting a new business is great, but somewhere along the line you have to have something to support it.  All the equipment, marketing, advertising, promotion and having you stand outside holding a sign won't mean shit unless there is a market for it their and the customers to support it.  Just wondering.

[Vince B]

Vince is Gone......

Its now Dr. Melvin Goodrum, CN MScM  and I now run the "Goodrum Clinic of Integrative Medicine" and I'm pretty much out of the bodybuilding industry other than competing .




More on that soon as I'm sure there will be a lot of questions

It is now clear that you don't run any such clinic. Typical Goodrum bs, especially the Dr part. You claim you are out of the bb industry then state that Caliber will be providing enough cash to pay the rent.

It all sounds like a pipedream. This is vintage Vince G CSN MFT stuff.

[The Master]

It is now clear that you don't run any such clinic. Typical Goodrum bs, especially the Dr part. You claim you are out of the bb industry then state that Caliber will be providing enough cash to pay the rent.

It all sounds like a pipedream. This is vintage Vince G CSN MFT stuff.

Melvin! Come here boy! The sheilas and the dogfood are waiting! I will wear my trademark speedos!

[mass 04]

Melvin! Come here boy! The sheilas and the dogfood are waiting! I will wear my trademark speedos!

       

[Vince B]

Debussey finally wrote something funny. Even crazy guys can be amusing at times. He still can't match serious Melvin who provides us with mirth almost daily.

I had an arm workout on Saturday and my triceps are still sore today. So I will train them again today and keep them growing. I don't understand why so many have trouble keeping their size into advanced years. The forumula is simple. Even Dr Goodrum could comprehend this and use it in his clinic for anti-aging therapy which would be fair dinkum. The key is to find the rare effective exercises and then the rest is easy. I doubt Milos' giant sets are the way to go. Could work for a while, though.

[The Squadfather]

Debussey finally wrote something funny. Even crazy guys can be amusing at times. He still can't match serious Melvin who provides us with mirth almost daily.

I had an arm workout on Saturday and my triceps are still sore today. So I will train them again today and keep them growing. I don't understand why so many have trouble keeping their size into advanced years. The forumula is simple. Even Dr Goodrum could comprehend this and use it in his clinic for anti-aging therapy which would be fair dinkum. The key is to find the rare effective exercises and then the rest is easy. I doubt Milos' giant sets are the way to go. Could work for a while, though.

he wouldn't be able to collect his fraudulent Medicare payments then.

[Necrosis]

Debussey finally wrote something funny. Even crazy guys can be amusing at times. He still can't match serious Melvin who provides us with mirth almost daily.

I had an arm workout on Saturday and my triceps are still sore today. So I will train them again today and keep them growing. I don't understand why so many have trouble keeping their size into advanced years. The forumula is simple. Even Dr Goodrum could comprehend this and use it in his clinic for anti-aging therapy which would be fair dinkum. The key is to find the rare effective exercises and then the rest is easy. I doubt Milos' giant sets are the way to go. Could work for a while, though.

your fat and look like a regular old man, no offense.

[Vince B]

Melvin is hiding out in the hills of North Carolina. Smart thing for him to do.

[Melvin Goodrum]

Vince I want to know why did you pick that location.  Are there other business's like it in the area you got comps from?  How did you figure out projections?  What is your customer base based on?  What is the daily traffic flow by your location?  Starting a new business is great, but somewhere along the line you have to have something to support it.  All the equipment, marketing, advertising, promotion and having you stand outside holding a sign won't mean shit unless there is a market for it their and the customers to support it.  Just wondering.

Its price and space but mainly it was because I was ruled out by majority vote.  This place is out in between Sylva and Cherokee which is practically out somewhere down the highway in the middle of nowhere and it would take more advertising.  But 350.00 for 1000 sq ft is what made them jump
I had recommended the office in the medical section of town in front of the hospital.  It was 1100 a month but in the long run, advertising would be less and it would have been easier to attract clients and customers.
There's been a few other things such as having sage burning throughout the office but I said heck no to that because I want proper medical air filtration systems, clean carpet, and white walls.  Also I did not want the usual crap hanging on the walls. 


Its a weird situation where I wish to have an advanced holistic health facility without all the stuff that distracts and detracts people.  If this clinic does not go as planned, I still have a contengent plan for a more scaled down facility to which I would not need the other two people. 

[Vince B]

Melvin, bail out immediately. Those partners stooges already are running the show. Things will go downhill from now on. Your reasons for locating near a hospital are sound. However, it doesn't matter what you want because your partners outvoted you. I told you to obtain 51% of your business otherwise you will be sorry later when the profits are divided.

Please stop changing the details of your business plan. The other day the rent was $300/month and now it is $350. There is no way you blokes can succeed because it is the blind leading the blind. Have you actually visited other clinics to see what goes on there? Surely you have to look professional if you are going to attract clients. Locating in the middle of nowhere with no budget for advertising is plain nuts.

Hope this helps.

[onlyme]

Vince what did the landlord give you.  How much TI $'s.  You better at least have free rent during construction and have at least 3 to 6 months free rent after opening.  What is the C.A.M.  Be sure to have the landlords be repsonsible for the A/C and be sure to check the plumbing and make sure the landlords handle that too.  Especially if something happens after opening.  Anything inside the walls or underground make sure they are repsonsible for.  You don't want to move in and find out the pipes are bad and now you have to pay for that and your business is closed during this period.  For that amount of rent something has to be wrong with the property.  How is the roof.  Make sure it doesn't leak.  Are their termites?   Also how is the electrical.  Yo are going to have a lot of electrical equipment, are you setup for that.  That can be a major expense getting that done.  As I see it your partners don't know much about this stuff.  Taking a place located in front of a hospital and saying no to that for a place located nowhere is a sign of "not knowing much".  Get on the ball and take over. 

[Vince B]

Keith, with you and me and others helping Dr Goodrum how can he possibly go wrong?