junior,,you are trying to debate the undebatable with one of the best to ever step on bodybuilding stage,,including circuit 2007!,,you praise palumbo all the time while in reality the dude cant even win a local show,,hes disformed and digusting looking physiqe wize though once was ok but nothing more than ok,,thats before he discovered he cant bring home no pro card,,
You yourself have said that Dave was screwed over by the NPC more then once...so this make th above statement a little off IMO.
have you ever competed junior? haveyou ever done a national or international show or profesional show? im tellin you that commoon cycles are 5-6 grams in the majors,,and i never lie so stop with that bullcrap not everyone does it but many do,,
I'm the greatest bodybuilder of all time...I would have thought you'd figured that out by now...I'll try to do a little better.

1 amp testovis aday
1 amp testex a day
adding dri\opingomnas or infars at times depending on need
1000mg nanrolone norma a week
600-1000 mg eq a week
lots of orals LOTS of orals
you do the math? do you se comon trend here? yes youre right human grade and lots of good human grade,,
I have no problem admitting that this is a common way to do things...not at all...I know it is very common...I'm not living in denial. I've never once debated this.
stop disturbing the truth,,,its like saying duretics wont do shit to you if you are 8% while in reality you are already 5% and the water blocks it to the eye,,
Just because I may disagree with some of you points...and if you've noticed I often agree with you on many points...but when something is off in my eyes or a little misconstrued I am going to point it out...it's the same exact thing you do, so back off.
you say what you know ,,i say what i have practiced
Nine times out of ten anything I say is based on either personal experience or inside info...I do not suffer from diarrhea of the mouth.
im right youre wrong end of story,,why am i even bothering answer you god knows
You bother answering because you enjoy debating these issues...regardless of the problems we have with each other, you understand that I am not some random highschool boy with a key board...you debate "Arnold jr." because you've come to the understanding that "hey, there may be more to AJ then I realize."