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Re: Is 48 hours rest ok to recover a muscle group?
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2008, 05:53:15 PM »
In general, i.e. for the man trying to get big without using steroids but at the same time taking bodybuilding seriously, 48 hours is absolutely ludicrous.  And I agree people are different in terms of recovery/on gear etc.... 

One thing that i think would be very interesting is if people on this board would take a few months in which they drastically increased their rest time between workouts, did less sets and with higher intensity.  Just for an experiment.  How many of you are the same size as last year, training with the same high volume, 4 days per week?  Are you interested in a change?  Afraid that if you don't do 20+ sets per workout you will lose your size?

You might feel strange not being in the gym so many times a week for so long, but stick with it.

Do some research on low volume/frequency, high intensity training a la mike mentzer and thank me later.  Try it for four months, if anything it will give you new perspective and peace of mind.
Good luck

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Re: Is 48 hours rest ok to recover a muscle group?
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2008, 06:05:18 PM »
DC style is similar and a lot of guys have blown up on it.

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Re: Is 48 hours rest ok to recover a muscle group?
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2008, 06:07:36 PM »
What does Arnold's encyclopedia say?  ;D

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Re: Is 48 hours rest ok to recover a muscle group?
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2008, 07:24:27 PM »
48 hours is enough if the soreness is gone. Use that as a guide, hit the muscle once the soreness is gone either 48 or 72 hours later.

This is all controversial, there are many opinions. For example you've got the HIT types who believe that hitting a muscle more than once a week's sacrilege, then you've got others like Vince Basile who think that the best results come from working a muscle while it's still slightly sore. Best to try different approaches for a few months each and compare the effects.

I'm of the belief that recovery's key, which means waiting till the soreness is gone after which time it's good to go right back to it. Assuming as in your case that the muscles are completely rested on off days-a double-split routine can help with this.

Also keep in mind that the duration of the workout makes a difference-if the workout's fairly short but intense it should take less time to recover than a long volume workout. Long workouts aren't needed for size.


Soreness isn't an indicator of recovery.

Recovery time is a function of 'training age', training style, work capacity, nutrition, rest, and other factors.  People said the guys who train with Louie Simmons couldn't possibly get stronger and recover, but they do.  People cant believe that high level olympic weightlifters squat 6 times a week, but many do.  Sheiko training gets people all worked up about recovery, yet somehow it's produced some of the strongest people, ever.

Some bodybuilders swear by their high volume high frequency workouts, training 6 days a week, hitting 'body parts' 2-3 times a week. 

From personal experience, 48 hours is about right for a novice.  Full recovery could be weeks for someone at an elite level.  However, how you can still train while you are recovering as part of a well planned program.  Also from personal experience, increasing work capacity reduces DOMS.

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Re: Is 48 hours rest ok to recover a muscle group?
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2008, 05:42:35 AM »
In general, i.e. for the man trying to get big without using steroids but at the same time taking bodybuilding seriously, 48 hours is absolutely ludicrous.  And I agree people are different in terms of recovery/on gear etc.... 

One thing that i think would be very interesting is if people on this board would take a few months in which they drastically increased their rest time between workouts, did less sets and with higher intensity.  Just for an experiment.  How many of you are the same size as last year, training with the same high volume, 4 days per week?  Are you interested in a change?  Afraid that if you don't do 20+ sets per workout you will lose your size?

You might feel strange not being in the gym so many times a week for so long, but stick with it.

Do some research on low volume/frequency, high intensity training a la mike mentzer and thank me later.  Try it for four months, if anything it will give you new perspective and peace of mind.
Good luck



1/ This is only one point of view, one polar opposite, as i've already pointed out.

2/ The whole steroids argument is overplayed. Yes it does help but is only one factor, which would and should be pointed out by anyone introducing that argument.

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Re: Is 48 hours rest ok to recover a muscle group?
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2008, 05:44:23 AM »
Soreness isn't an indicator of recovery.

Recovery time is a function of 'training age', training style, work capacity, nutrition, rest, and other factors.  People said the guys who train with Louie Simmons couldn't possibly get stronger and recover, but they do.  People cant believe that high level olympic weightlifters squat 6 times a week, but many do.  Sheiko training gets people all worked up about recovery, yet somehow it's produced some of the strongest people, ever.

Some bodybuilders swear by their high volume high frequency workouts, training 6 days a week, hitting 'body parts' 2-3 times a week. 

From personal experience, 48 hours is about right for a novice.  Full recovery could be weeks for someone at an elite level.  However, how you can still train while you are recovering as part of a well planned program.  Also from personal experience, increasing work capacity reduces DOMS.

You're speaking in absolute terms, as if you have all the answers when in fact all you have is an opinion. Scary the way you set forth all types of rules when in fact there's nothing set in stone. No one knows for sure, definitely not you putting this stuff down in unequivocal fashion.

Bottom line as i've already pointed out: try each approach as well as any variations in between them that appeal, for a period of time of at least a few months or more each. Then decide for yourself which is best, or rotate periodically between programs that were found to be equally effective. ;D

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Re: Is 48 hours rest ok to recover a muscle group?
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2008, 09:17:58 AM »
Did you even read my post?