Alti and Ronnie officially over as 12/27/07

[cswol]

yeah there great at acting like christians huh stavios

[Matt C]

Is Mark Dugdale the only faithful "christian" who doesnt sleep around on his wife?

Are most christians hypocrites?

Im pretty sure fornicating is sin....

How do you know that Mark is faithful?  He seems like a very respectable man, but at the same time, I thought that about Ronnie. 

[G o a t b o y]

Ronnie = Mid life crisis worse than the Arvillas.

Impossible. 

No one has a mid-life crisis worse than the Arvillas!

[Stavios]

yeah there great at acting like christians huh stavios

religions are fucking stupid if you ask me

[England_1]

It's pretty obvious why Ronnie lost the Olympia in 06 and 07 - he sinned very badly.

[G o a t b o y]

I hate "christians"

So do I. 


I think the early Roman emporers had the right idea with the lions. 

[Jerryme7]

Matt C said:

How do you know that Mark is faithful?  He seems like a very respectable man, but at the same time, I thought that about Ronnie.

Matt...havnt you noticed that him and his wife were always together at the Olympia Expo? They hung out together and never left each others' side or hung out with other people and had each other for company?

Thats what I call a partnership and marriage. On the previews for Driven, I can see how passionate these two people are about each other and their daughters and their love for God...

For one thing, I dont think Dugdale would put himself in that situation by being alone with another female except for his wife...At the "Driven" promotion party at Max Muscle, they were both together...

I met Dugdale and he seemed to me very humble and a man that is all about his wife and kids...

[Matt C]

Matt C said:
Matt...havnt you noticed that him and his wife were always together at the Olympia Expo? They hung out together and never left each others' side or hung out with other people and had each other for company?

Thats what I call a partnership and marriage. On the previews for Driven, I can see how passionate these two people are about each other and their daughters and their love for God...

For one thing, I dont think Dugdale would put himself in that situation by being alone with another female except for his wife...At the "Driven" promotion party at Max Muscle, they were both together...

I met Dugdale and he seemed to me very humble and a man that is all about his wife and kids...

I noticed that about Mark and his wife also.  Note that non-religious people are more faithful to their wife, commit less crime, and are underrepresented on death row compared to Christians.  Epic empirical evidence proving that "good Christian morals" don't amount to very much. 

[cswol]

what about the so-called gay for pay videos dugdale was in................those are some quality religious vidoes there!

[Matt C]

what about the so-called gay for pay videos dugdale was in................those are some quality religious vidoes there!

His story is that he hadn't researched the company and wasn't aware that they targeted a predominantly homosexual demographic.

I would say two things about that: because he is so successful running his company, why would he need to do G4P anyway?  Also, Mark is a very busy guy and it is totally possible he wouldn't research a company's background first.  But then again, when the name of the company is "GAY MUSCLE VIDEOS STARRING G4P BODYBUILDERS TARGETED TO GAY MEN WHO LIKE SEEING G4P BODYBUILDERS IN GAY VIDEOS BY A G4P COMPANY" that would be the tip off in my book. 

[Tigerman]

Although Ronnie straight shitted on me...believe me, I'm not here to shit on him. I know, I'm crazy huh? if this had been 5 years ago I probably would've done a Columbine on his ass. Funny, I can still find some humor.... I always said that God blessed me with so much patience and kindness. I'm crazy, but the nicest people you will ever come across! I've been through a lot, and this is just another tragic event in my life.Everything happens for a reason. And through all this I hope Ronnie found what he was looking for, and to him and the Mrs......The very best! Now am I going to the wedding....HELL FUCKIN NO!!!!!!
 Thanks to all my friends for the love and support , and the strangers on Getbig, that are feeling my pain.... Don't worry, or feel sorry for me...Life goes on!!!!

Alti, you're a class act and a strong woman.

[kh300]

shit, let a playa play

[Bones]

he had monica too?

E

   Frick'n tramp

[Matt C]

shit, let a playa play spread STDs

Fixed. 

[pumpher]

If true, that's a pretty sh!tty way to break off a 6-year relationship

Anyone know Ronnie's version?

[rocket]

If true, that's a pretty sh!tty way to break off a 6-year relationship

Anyone know Ronnie's version?

Someone has to paraphrase Ronnie's reply here

[240 is Back]

dugdale had no idea that musclegallery.com was a gay site.

when he agreed to pose in hot pink shorts for $, he didn't have internet access, and took their word for it.  That was back in 2005, when not everyone had the web.

so leave the guy alone.

[kh300]

I noticed that about Mark and his wife also.  Note that non-religious people are more faithful to their wife, commit less crime, and are underrepresented on death row compared to Christians.  Epic empirical evidence proving that "good Christian morals" don't amount to very much. 

here we go with the anti christians pulling out their moral cards

so when an atheist does something wrong, its ok, because he isnt breaking his belief system

but if a christian does something wrong, the atheists go after them.

matt c we know your a great person without religion. please tell us why you need to prove us of this ALL THE TIME. you dont need a degree in psychology to know why

[Stavios]

here we go with the anti christians pulling out their moral cards

so when an atheist does something wrong, its ok, because he isnt breaking his belief system

but if a christian does something wrong, the atheists go after them.

matt c we know your a great person without religion. please tell us why you need to prove us of this ALL THE TIME. you dont need a degree in psychology to know why

Matt likes to be a smartass 

I hope he stays like this cause it makes me laugh 

[Relentless]

"Christianity" is nothing but a belief system handed down by parents/family - as soon as one starts recognizing this, true enlightenment is soon to follow.  IMO, inherited beliefs hinder an individual's progression.  It's sad people put Ronnie up on this pedestal because he's a great bodybuilder and calls himself a Christian; I respect the man's genetic gifts and work ethic, but this obviously doesn't make him a great person.  From what I understand, Ronnie has at least a couple of kids out of wedlock already.

[rocket]

here we go with the anti christians pulling out their moral cards

so when an atheist does something wrong, its ok, because he isnt breaking his belief system

but if a christian does something wrong, the atheists go after them.

matt c we know your a great person without religion. please tell us why you need to prove us of this ALL THE TIME. you dont need a degree in psychology to know why

As a christian, you yourself should be critical of people who pretend to be so and are exposed obviously being far from it. 

This has nothing to do with the validity of a certain action.  Its about people who pretend to be religious, whilst doing questionable things.

[cswol]

well if you do a search of christianity you will see that the devil/satan was a regular person, he was actually the leader named nero in rome.  With his killing of christians he became known as satan or a devil.  The mark of the beast 666, actually translates in hebrew as NERO.......hence, christianity is nothing but a belief held by humans that defected from jewish religion..........I believe in a higher power but all this christianity stuff has got to go.............just because someone is a christian it gives them no right to be critical of another person and vice versa, but thats what christians do...they focus on the sins of other individuals instead of curbing the sin in their own lives.

[rocket]

well if you do a search of christianity you will see that the devil/satan was a regular person, he was actually the leader named nero in rome.  With his killing of christians he became known as satan or a devil.  The mark of the beast 666, actually translates in hebrew as NERO.......hence, christianity is nothing but a belief held by humans that defected from jewish religion..........I believe in a higher power but all this christianity stuff has got to go.............just because someone is a christian it gives them no right to be critical of another person and vice versa, but thats what christians do...they focus on the sins of other individuals instead of curbing the sin in their own lives.

It doesn't have to go anywhere, Christianity keeps stupid people from being overly immoral.   Its a means to an end.  Only when it affects your life should you give a shit.

Idiots withOUT Jesus = Danger.

[Matt C]

here we go with the anti christians pulling out their moral cards

so when an atheist does something wrong, its ok, because he isnt breaking his belief system

but if a christian does something wrong, the atheists go after them.

matt c we know your a great person without religion. please tell us why you need to prove us of this ALL THE TIME. you dont need a degree in psychology to know why

Actually, non-religious people (atheists, agnostics, rationalists, etc) don't make a claim one way another about their actions breaking a particular belief system.

Our point is that it is the religious people who make claims about having a particular standard to be judged against, constantly shove it down our throats, and in the meantime break their moral code constantly all the while judging us for not following a system which they don't even follow.  This doesn't apply to all Christians, but certainly applies to Ronnie (using drugs which both violate the law of the land, and fall under "vanity", cheating on Alti), and numerous other "Christians".  Although there are so many contradictions in the bible, technically you can get away with being selectively Christian and find some passage in the bible to justify it.

[cswol]

hey matt, maybe you should become associate pastor at your church.............or say fuk it all and move to Los Angeles!