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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2008, 07:27:23 PM »
figgs, im worried about you...

ever since you posted that you were satisified with your physique you have been posting things that do not reflect your former self....

i believe you are searching for alternative answers to the "keys" of life. let me fill you in....this is coming from someone who too has searched for meaning in this universe...

eat meat
fuck  lots o' young girls
never be "satisfied" with your physique
leave the "unknown" exactly that...youll never figure it out


in short, you are becoming a god damn hippie. please tell the old figgs to come back


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lol this thread just became an intervention.

OK, I'm not completely satisfied with my physique, but I am comfortable in it enough to not obsess about it like I had done before. I'm aiming to get back my peak strength and endurance at the moment. Also working to become a personal trainer.

These vegan plans aren't going into full effect until I take a trip to BJ's and buy gallons of nuts and veggies and fruits... ohh man I'm going to have a veggie buffet. Meat will become a delicasy reserved for going out and occasional things of that sort.

Girls I never find time for. I just don't have it in me to pretend like I'm interested in someone just to play the gamble to be with her for a night and realize while we're lying in bed together how incompatable we are. lol Again, special occasions are taken into consideration like if I go on another cruise or I just happen to be really feeling some sexual vibes that could lead up to some serious mating. But otherwise, no, I don't like to make it a hobby or anything.

The unknown can never be fully comprehended in the mind. It can only be understood in metaphors, which is what everything in life really is if you think about it. Life is exhilerating once you understand the metaphors of the mysterious. When you realize that you are a God in a meatmobile your potential becomes unlimited, as it always has been. You are infinite consciousness with an imagination capable of anything. There's no such thing as death, only the soul's reunion with infinite universal consciousness, life is but a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves.

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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2008, 07:39:30 PM »
"Be the change you want to see in the world"
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Just need six billion people to think that way, but point well made by a great man.....

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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2008, 07:46:14 PM »
Yeah right you know you could never give up man meat. Fag.

Epic scrolling over entire thread with nothing but the word 'meat' in mind, interpreted as only you and bluto would have it defined.

Yeah right you know you could never give up man meat. Fag.

You do what you can.  :)

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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2008, 07:48:24 PM »
There is a period in the history of the individual, as of the race, when the hunters are the "best men," -- as the Algonquins called them. We cannot but pity the boy who has never fired a gun; he is no more humane, while his education has been sadly neglected. This was my answer with respect to those youths who were bent on this pursuit, trusting that they would soon outgrow it. No humane being, past the thoughtless age of boyhood, will wantonly murder any creature which holds its life by the same tenure that he does. The hare in its extremity cries like a child. I warn you, mothers, that my sympathies do not always make the usual philanthropic distinctions. 
 
Such is oftenest the young man's introduction to the forest, and the most original part of himself. He goes thither at first as a hunter and fisher, until at last, if he has the seeds of a better life in him, he distinguishes his proper objects, as a poet or naturalist it may be, and leaves the gun and fish-pole behind. The mass of men are still and always young in this respect. In some countries a hunting parson is no uncommon sight. Such a one might make a good shepherd's dog, but is far from being the Good Shepherd. I have been surprised to consider that the only obvious employment, except wood-chopping, ice-cutting, or the like business, which ever to my knowledge detained at Walden Pond for a whole half-day any of my fellow-citizens, whether fathers or children of the town, with just one exception, was fishing. Commonly they did not think that they were lucky, or well paid for their time, unless they got a long string of fish, though they had the opportunity of seeing the pond all the while. They might go there a thousand times before the sediment of fishing would sink to the bottom and leave their purpose pure; but no doubt such a clarifying process would be going on all the while. The Governor and his Council faintly remember the pond, for they went a-fishing there when they were boys; but now they are too old and dignified to go a-fishing, and so they know it no more forever. Yet even they expect to go to heaven at last. If the legislature regards it, it is chiefly to regulate the number of books to be used there; but they know nothing about the book of hooks with which to angle for the pond itself, impaling the legislature for a bait. Thus, even in civilized communities, the embryo man passes through the hunter stage of development

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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2008, 08:04:59 PM »
When you realize that you are a God in a meatmobile your potential becomes unlimited

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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2008, 08:35:13 PM »
I think I'd be a hypocrite, talking about it being time for mankind to evolve all the time and sharply criticizing our culture while participating in the totally unnecessary mass slaughter of our planet's good creatures, whom all they want in life is to live out their lives as their instincts would have it. Humans aren't even designed to eat meats. We're more engineered to eat meat as something of a delicasy. We have flat teeth that can't tear much and long and complex digestive systems that are built to digest vegetables and things of the sort. I don't mean to advertise the bible or anything but it made some good points, one being when "God" said that all foods with seeds is ours to eat however much you like, or something like that. Christians are welcome to correct me. God never mentioned meat.

I've been learning about the wonderful diet opportunities that vegetarian foods offer. And I'm only in the infancy of knowing about its potential. I've been learning about the "rainbow diet" where you eat as much a variety of colorful foods, each color having different nutritional values and also I find the symbolism in natures food to be most intriguing. Walnuts looks like a brain and are good for your brain. Kidney beans are good for your kidneys. celery and other veggies shaped like bones are good for your bones. carrots, cut in half look like eyes with pupils. Figs grow in pairs and are good for semen production. Plus, I absolutely love vegetables and always have been, but I eat meat every single day.

Who wants to join me? Who already has?


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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2008, 09:09:35 PM »
There is a period in the history of the individual, as of the race, when the hunters are the "best men," -- as the Algonquins called them. We cannot but pity the boy who has never fired a gun; he is no more humane, while his education has been sadly neglected. This was my answer with respect to those youths who were bent on this pursuit, trusting that they would soon outgrow it. No humane being, past the thoughtless age of boyhood, will wantonly murder any creature which holds its life by the same tenure that he does. The hare in its extremity cries like a child. I warn you, mothers, that my sympathies do not always make the usual philanthropic distinctions. 
 
Such is oftenest the young man's introduction to the forest, and the most original part of himself. He goes thither at first as a hunter and fisher, until at last, if he has the seeds of a better life in him, he distinguishes his proper objects, as a poet or naturalist it may be, and leaves the gun and fish-pole behind. The mass of men are still and always young in this respect. In some countries a hunting parson is no uncommon sight. Such a one might make a good shepherd's dog, but is far from being the Good Shepherd. I have been surprised to consider that the only obvious employment, except wood-chopping, ice-cutting, or the like business, which ever to my knowledge detained at Walden Pond for a whole half-day any of my fellow-citizens, whether fathers or children of the town, with just one exception, was fishing. Commonly they did not think that they were lucky, or well paid for their time, unless they got a long string of fish, though they had the opportunity of seeing the pond all the while. They might go there a thousand times before the sediment of fishing would sink to the bottom and leave their purpose pure; but no doubt such a clarifying process would be going on all the while. The Governor and his Council faintly remember the pond, for they went a-fishing there when they were boys; but now they are too old and dignified to go a-fishing, and so they know it no more forever. Yet even they expect to go to heaven at last. If the legislature regards it, it is chiefly to regulate the number of books to be used there; but they know nothing about the book of hooks with which to angle for the pond itself, impaling the legislature for a bait. Thus, even in civilized communities, the embryo man passes through the hunter stage of development

HD Thoreau


That's a great piece. I really enjoyed it.  :)

I like the term "embryo man". I wonder when he will finally give birth to himself. We have a few Getbiggers who havn't even reached fertilization...  ::)
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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2008, 09:13:45 PM »
Giving up the cock?
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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2008, 09:14:53 PM »
free range organic meat that are treated fairly well are fine to eat. we are meant to eat animals. we need meat and we need protein. also, there are tons of vitamins ad nutrients in meat that are have awesome health benefits.     i eat a ton of vegetables. i love vegetables. i dont get any carbs except for veggies. thats how much veggies i eat.   but meat is also an integral part of my diet. as it should be...in every human beings diet.


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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2008, 09:18:11 PM »
Sounds like a matter of not enough calories, which seems easy on a veggie diet. More nuts and legumes could work.


figgs carbohydrates and fats have ZERO potential to build muscle. they ONLY can provide energy. protein is the only nutrient which serves as a building block. you MUST consume it if you wish to grow..or even maintain..muscle mass. not only that, but our body is constantly regenerating and replacing every cell and tissue in our body..its something like every month we are a totally new human being(meaning that every cell in our body is no more than a month old.) the only way to create these celles and tissues is through protein.

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« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2008, 09:32:36 PM »
Not against vegetarianism. However, an interesting probability...in all probability the shift from being vegetarians to meat eaters in the apes that evolved into humans is the cause of the rapid brain and intelligence growth of the species leading to us.

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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2008, 09:46:01 PM »
I think I'd be a hypocrite, talking about it being time for mankind to evolve all the time and sharply criticizing our culture while participating in the totally unnecessary mass slaughter of our planet's good creatures, whom all they want in life is to live out their lives as their instincts would have it. Humans aren't even designed to eat meats. We're more engineered to eat meat as something of a delicasy. We have flat teeth that can't tear much and long and complex digestive systems that are built to digest vegetables and things of the sort. I don't mean to advertise the bible or anything but it made some good points, one being when "God" said that all foods with seeds is ours to eat however much you like, or something like that. Christians are welcome to correct me. God never mentioned meat.

I've been learning about the wonderful diet opportunities that vegetarian foods offer. And I'm only in the infancy of knowing about its potential. I've been learning about the "rainbow diet" where you eat as much a variety of colorful foods, each color having different nutritional values and also I find the symbolism in natures food to be most intriguing. Walnuts looks like a brain and are good for your brain. Kidney beans are good for your kidneys. celery and other veggies shaped like bones are good for your bones. carrots, cut in half look like eyes with pupils. Figs grow in pairs and are good for semen production. Plus, I absolutely love vegetables and always have been, but I eat meat every single day.

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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2008, 09:47:50 PM »
Not against vegetarianism. However, an interesting probability...in all probability the shift from being vegetarians to meat eaters in the apes that evolved into humans is the cause of the rapid brain and intelligence growth of the species leading to us.
what makes you think so?

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« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2008, 12:13:35 AM »
This is a good decision, go with it and don't let anyone tell you otherwise-especially people who don't have it in them(yet) to sacrifice something they like for what they think is right.  Just remember though, factory farming is the norm, but it's not the only way.  There are plenty of sources of grass fed beef and bison and plenty of sources of pastured chicken out there-www.eatwild.com is a great place to start.  They also have a lot of great articles.  When I lived in the states, I always bought, at the minimum, organic meat and very often grass fed bison online. 
    Keep this in mind: what's truly best for you is what's truly best for the everyone else-people, animals, plants, the whole earth.  If a restricting diet leaves you deficient in something, you are going to conciously or subcounciously have to get it from somewhere else-ie: supplements, medicines, foods you have to ship from all over the globe..etc, which is ultimately worse for everyone else-better to kill an animal and get what you need from it than to support the destruction of the environment through poor farming, shipping...etc and thus the un-health or death of many animals just to satisfy your need to stay within the confines of a certain diet.  So it's best to say this: I eat that which is best for me.  If it ends up being only vegan food, then so be it.  But the goal is to eat what's best for you, not to eat within certain confines of food items.  I think you'll find that there isn't a single animal in existance that won't eat what it needs, simply because it's not on it's regular diet-ie: grass for felines(usually when their sick), small rodents for chimps, apes, and gorillas.
  We're all starting to wake up.  I wish everyone would stop supporting the torture of animals like you.  In fact, I think that if you are going to eat meat, it would be a good idea if you could actually be able to kill the animal yourself in the way in which you support it being killed-ie: if you eat factory farm beef and chicken, then you should be man or woman enough to actually do the job yourself as it's done in the factory farm. 
   Those that haven't begun waking up yet and are stuck in their ways are going to have a very rough next couple of years.

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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2008, 12:16:26 AM »
"If you don't eat meat you turn into a pussy." 

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« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2008, 01:07:56 AM »
When you see a fat pig or a bunch of cattle? Do you get hungry? Does it raise your appetite? It's not natural for humans to eat animals, only if they are left no other choice. Humans even eat other humans for same reason.  A Lion on the other hand licks their chops when closing in on a pray,  that is their natural food. Humans sweat, predators don't.

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« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2008, 01:18:10 AM »
what makes you think so?

There was an interview with a evolutionary biologist from U of Wisc, or maybe Minn, not sure, but according to him(and based on the context not only him, but others in the field) one can make that claim with credibility. The higher protein and fat content made for an environment more conducive to brain growth.

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« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2008, 01:28:43 AM »
Not against vegetarianism. However, an interesting probability...in all probability the shift from being vegetarians to meat eaters in the apes that evolved into humans is the cause of the rapid brain and intelligence growth of the species leading to us.

Hahaha, you are referring to humans as intelligent?  They have high capacity brains yes, but intelligence? What have they used their "intelligence" to accomplish so far? Complicate living and fight nature, such highly evolved intelligence.

AND why did the dinosaurs never evolve to "intelligent" beings, they eat meat exclusive for millions of years. Great reasoning.. ::)




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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2008, 07:24:22 AM »
Mmmmm....steak.

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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2008, 07:45:36 AM »
I think I'd be a hypocrite, talking about it being time for mankind to evolve all the time and sharply criticizing our culture while participating in the totally unnecessary mass slaughter of our planet's good creatures, whom all they want in life is to live out their lives as their instincts would have it. Humans aren't even designed to eat meats. We're more engineered to eat meat as something of a delicasy. We have flat teeth that can't tear much and long and complex digestive systems that are built to digest vegetables and things of the sort. I don't mean to advertise the bible or anything but it made some good points, one being when "God" said that all foods with seeds is ours to eat however much you like, or something like that. Christians are welcome to correct me. God never mentioned meat.

I've been learning about the wonderful diet opportunities that vegetarian foods offer. And I'm only in the infancy of knowing about its potential. I've been learning about the "rainbow diet" where you eat as much a variety of colorful foods, each color having different nutritional values and also I find the symbolism in natures food to be most intriguing. Walnuts looks like a brain and are good for your brain. Kidney beans are good for your kidneys. celery and other veggies shaped like bones are good for your bones. carrots, cut in half look like eyes with pupils. Figs grow in pairs and are good for semen production. Plus, I absolutely love vegetables and always have been, but I eat meat every single day.

Who wants to join me? Who already has?

dude... your a dumbass piece of 5hit, your tellin me if you stop eatin meat.... your gonna help out humanity? did you forget about all the carnivores out there in the world that feed on other animals??? hahahah your a dipshit man..... to top that off... your saying this on a bodybuilding board, and i guarantee you, 99% of all getbiggers eat meat on a regular basis, so your just making yourself look like a dipshit infront of everyone, and i hope you die
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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2008, 07:47:19 AM »
AHAHAHHAH I JUST READ THE WHOLE POST..... WOW DUDE.... YOUR A HOMOSEXUAL!! hahaha fuckin fagot talkin about a rainbow diet, and tryna say figs grow in pairs and shit.... LOL wow.... no comment, go suck a dick..no homo
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« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2008, 07:50:56 AM »
AHAHAH YOOO FIGGS, gimme your address, im gonna mail you some NOLVADEX so you can control your estrogen levels, you sound like a fuckin homo
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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2008, 08:27:49 AM »
This is a good decision, go with it and don't let anyone tell you otherwise-especially people who don't have it in them(yet) to sacrifice something they like for what they think is right.  Just remember though, factory farming is the norm, but it's not the only way.  There are plenty of sources of grass fed beef and bison and plenty of sources of pastured chicken out there-www.eatwild.com is a great place to start.  They also have a lot of great articles.  When I lived in the states, I always bought, at the minimum, organic meat and very often grass fed bison online. 
    Keep this in mind: what's truly best for you is what's truly best for the everyone else-people, animals, plants, the whole earth.  If a restricting diet leaves you deficient in something, you are going to conciously or subcounciously have to get it from somewhere else-ie: supplements, medicines, foods you have to ship from all over the globe..etc, which is ultimately worse for everyone else-better to kill an animal and get what you need from it than to support the destruction of the environment through poor farming, shipping...etc and thus the un-health or death of many animals just to satisfy your need to stay within the confines of a certain diet.  So it's best to say this: I eat that which is best for me.  If it ends up being only vegan food, then so be it.  But the goal is to eat what's best for you, not to eat within certain confines of food items.  I think you'll find that there isn't a single animal in existance that won't eat what it needs, simply because it's not on it's regular diet-ie: grass for felines(usually when their sick), small rodents for chimps, apes, and gorillas.
  We're all starting to wake up.  I wish everyone would stop supporting the torture of animals like you.  In fact, I think that if you are going to eat meat, it would be a good idea if you could actually be able to kill the animal yourself in the way in which you support it being killed-ie: if you eat factory farm beef and chicken, then you should be man or woman enough to actually do the job yourself as it's done in the factory farm. 
   Those that haven't begun waking up yet and are stuck in their ways are going to have a very rough next couple of years.

Thanks for your post!

I only thought meat was what's best for me all my life since it was always there. I always had some and included it in my everyday diet. And just like everyone who has a tough time accepting that they're pussies and stop eating it is because of it being a habit.

Right now, when I think of my diet, I think of myself very full and very satisfied, eating a wide variety of delicious vegetables and hummus and beans and lentils and pea soup, walnuts, pistachios, peanut butter, you name it. I love it all.

It's a good idea to be able to consider whether or not you can kill the animal yourself. I like that. I'm becoming too much of a 'pussy' just to contribute to the killing, let alone do it myself. I could never unless I were stranded in the woods or something. It's as if we chose to be ignorant to how it's done as long as it ends up on our dinner plate. Just like we're ignorant to the wealthy bankers running the government here in America. We're ignorant of a lot of things, but as long as that ignorance satisfies the moment and maintains the status quo, why ask questions? That's something I'll personally never understand, but eh. That's the way it is. So why my ignorance? I just didn't care enough to consider the reality of the situation. The history of my packaged meat. That's all it takes, I'd say.
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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2008, 08:44:52 AM »
Not against vegetarianism. However, an interesting probability...in all probability the shift from being vegetarians to meat eaters in the apes that evolved into humans is the cause of the rapid brain and intelligence growth of the species leading to us.

I learned a little about that. The point is, our brains evolved way beyond our ability to adapt. We have nearly an entire hemisphere unexplored. So the meat eating did it's job, if that's indeed what it did. There seems to be no particular demand for meats at this point.

Hahaha, you are referring to humans as intelligent?  They have high capacity brains yes, but intelligence? What have they used their "intelligence" to accomplish so far? Complicate living and fight nature, such highly evolved intelligence.

AND why did the dinosaurs never evolve to "intelligent" beings, they eat meat exclusive for millions of years. Great reasoning.. ::)





LOL Yeah, we are an immature species but that's because of our culture, which is sort of designed to waste and destroy. Government destroys freedom, media destroys information, schools destroy knowledge, religion destroys spirituality, etc.

figgs carbohydrates and fats have ZERO potential to build muscle. they ONLY can provide energy. protein is the only nutrient which serves as a building block. you MUST consume it if you wish to grow..or even maintain..muscle mass. not only that, but our body is constantly regenerating and replacing every cell and tissue in our body..its something like every month we are a totally new human being(meaning that every cell in our body is no more than a month old.) the only way to create these celles and tissues is through protein.

Yeah, balance is key. You're absolutely right. That's why dairy, whey, legumes and nuts are so essential for the vegan bber. I'm going to seriously consider those organic options. Thanks for the tips!

lol That's totally insane how we're just energy fields of roughly 50-70 trillion cells. I was just watching Cosmos and Carl Sagan was covering the function of the cells and how the body is a universe unto itself.

dude... your a dumbass piece of 5hit, your tellin me if you stop eatin meat.... your gonna help out humanity? did you forget about all the carnivores out there in the world that feed on other animals??? hahahah your a dipshit man..... to top that off... your saying this on a bodybuilding board, and i guarantee you, 99% of all getbiggers eat meat on a regular basis, so your just making yourself look like a dipshit infront of everyone, and i hope you die

Dude, I'm not forcing you to improve the world. That's your choice. As long as you're not the one being chopped to bits and plastic wrapped, don't take it personally.

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Re: no more meat for me
« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2008, 08:45:15 AM »
It's not natural for humans to eat animals, only if they are left no other choice.


Bullshit.


Compare the digestive system of humans with that of both carnivores and herbavores, then get back to me.  ::)
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