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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #150 on: March 25, 2008, 12:10:14 PM »
Good stuff Magoo.  CONGRATS!!!!   8)
Keep it up! 

LOL @ 365 x 0.9.  ;D
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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #151 on: March 25, 2008, 12:27:10 PM »
thanks! 8)

now we just gotta see if i can hit it in a meet. might be doing one this weekend, but we'll see how i feel. i totally didn't attempt to drop weight for it.  :-\

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #152 on: March 25, 2008, 01:24:30 PM »
thanks! 8)

now we just gotta see if i can hit it in a meet. might be doing one this weekend, but we'll see how i feel. i totally didn't attempt to drop weight for it.  :-\

WAIT! OUR BOY IS GOING TO DO A MEET?

even though you're about my age anyway..we'll call you our boy HAHA

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #153 on: March 25, 2008, 01:26:58 PM »
WAIT! OUR BOY IS GOING TO DO A MEET?

even though you're about my age anyway..we'll call you our boy HAHA

Whos the father then ???

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #154 on: March 25, 2008, 01:29:57 PM »
maybe it's one of those i'm my own grandpa kinda thigns lol

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #155 on: March 25, 2008, 05:58:20 PM »
WAIT! OUR BOY IS GOING TO DO A MEET?

even though you're about my age anyway..we'll call you our boy HAHA

lol, maybe! i'm starting to think i should look at "bench specific" routines, since that's where my best gains are located. when i benched crazy-arched with a way wide grip i could just about get 350 and 225x18, now i've blown past that flat-footed after dropping 40 pounds to boot. i'm tempted to see how much i can add to the ol' bench.

of course i'd keep with the squatting and pulling, just not as intense (i.e. not as many singles).

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #156 on: March 25, 2008, 06:16:49 PM »
lol, maybe! i'm starting to think i should look at "bench specific" routines, since that's where my best gains are located. when i benched crazy-arched with a way wide grip i could just about get 350 and 225x18, now i've blown past that flat-footed after dropping 40 pounds to boot. i'm tempted to see how much i can add to the ol' bench.

of course i'd keep with the squatting and pulling, just not as intense (i.e. not as many singles).

with some videos and routine adjustment we can tweak ya a few extra pounds in the ol log here buddy no joke!

Do a bench only or a push pull..i don't like squatting and am not confident enough in my squat yet to do a squat meet. I know the first time you do it..you're going to be like me and be hooked and love it!

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #157 on: March 25, 2008, 06:37:33 PM »
365 is monstrous, good job man!  8)

Do you still do your super arch? what pointers do you use for your bench form? What are 30's?

Thanks.  :)
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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #158 on: March 25, 2008, 07:08:57 PM »
365 is monstrous, good job man!  8)

Do you still do your super arch? what pointers do you use for your bench form? What are 30's?

Thanks.  :)

i have a bit of an arch (my back is oddly flexible), but nothing remotely like i used to. i keep my feet flat and i'm not near the point where my abs feel stretched or my spine pinched. just enough for my shoulder blades to stay tight and my hips down.

the biggest tips i have would be the following:

1) find out what grip works FOR YOU. i'm 6'2" and my arms are on the shorter side, but middle finger on the rings seems golden for me. i know guys that bench by putting their thumbs on the edge of the smooth and then stretch from there, probably four inches INSIDE the rings, with arms as long as mine. i also know a guy who goes index fingers on the rings and is pretty small, which gives him a real short ROM but still perfectly competition legal.

2) plant your feet in a way that you can push, but your ass doesn't pop up. for some it means mega wide (i believe wolfe does that), ben white has his feet way close but toes ducked out far. for me it's somewhere in between. i've tried the other two and it just didn't work as well.

3) KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN. don't lift it off the bench.

4) don't just think of "lowering the bar to your chest", also think of "lifting your chest to the bar". it'll help you keep your back tight since it removes the tendency to let everything fall apart on the way down and then try and "regroup" for the push up.

when i say "30's" i refer to an exercise a friend of mine showed me. you take the bar with a real light weight (he strips 3 plates off his max, which means 225 for him ::) ) and do 10 really small reps at the chest, then 10 small reps at lockout, and then 10 full reps. i almost puked after the first set of those today, probably because i'd just knocked out all those reps with 225.

anything else, feel free to ask.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #159 on: March 27, 2008, 02:25:05 PM »
all righty.

THURSDAY: squat day, no belt at all.

squats: didn't feel like hitting it heavy. quick sets.
135x8
225x8
275x5
315x5
315x2/2/2/2/2 - speed sets, 20sec rest between.

sumo pulls: rest on the floor
135x5
225x5
315x3
405x3
405x3
405x1 - almost pooped on this rep, figured i should stop.

DB hang snatches: no rest on the floor, reps per arm
90x6
90x5 - yeah, that's a set of 12 and 10, and it SUCKED

suitcases:
135x5
185x3
205x1 - still not doin' well with that left hand.

lunges: reps per leg, not done alternating. so i'd do X reps with the left, then with the right.
135x10
135x10

shrugs:
120x25
120x20

some abs

weight: 231.5

notes: not a great workout, but then it's weird squatting beltless when i haven't really done it in so long. funny thing is if you saw at my diet thread, i was doing 315x5 or 6 beltless when i weighed 270, so i can't complain too much.

oh yeah, here's a picture taken in the wickedtruth vein. nice goofy close-up. definitely think i'll try and trim to 215-220.  :P

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #160 on: March 27, 2008, 04:54:54 PM »
dude lookin THICK! HAHA and i fill up the camera more because my body fat is a litlte higher than yours LOL

sick tats! Let's see that artwork!


helluva workout man wtf look at all that!

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #161 on: March 27, 2008, 07:58:09 PM »
dude lookin THICK! HAHA and i fill up the camera more because my body fat is a litlte higher than yours LOL

sick tats! Let's see that artwork!


helluva workout man wtf look at all that!

haha, i ain't as strong as you, but i'm determined to lift the same total poundages throughout the workout. so i'm there for an extra half hour doing half again as many sets!  ;D

i've probably put up pics of my ink before, but i'll snap some more later. i've put a total of 23 hours into my right arm/shoulder/chest, and 4-ish into my left shoulder. not too shabby.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #162 on: March 28, 2008, 04:19:26 PM »
quick one today.

FRIDAY - bench assistance

flat bench: why not?
135x12
225x8
275x5
295x5
315x3 - left something in the tank each set
225x8
225x8
225x6 - feet up on these three

standing militaries:
135x6 - pause on each rep at the bottom
135x6
135x6

DB's:
60x10
60x10

DB rows: one-armed, knee on a bench
100x8
100x8
100x8

some pullups

side raises:
40x12,12,12

at this point i just messed around doing curled and pullovers, nothing major.

weight: 232

notes: dammit, i gotta get on this weight loss thing.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #163 on: March 30, 2008, 03:56:18 PM »
damn nice workout bro..and what's with hte high rep side raises? cut the reps and move heavier weight to get stronger!  ;D

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #164 on: March 30, 2008, 04:03:34 PM »
i was reading in the new PL USA about Hoornstra's workouts and he does sets of 4-5 on shoulder raises, 105's on seated front raises and 115's on standing side laterals. :o

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #165 on: March 30, 2008, 04:14:52 PM »
i was reading in the new PL USA about Hoornstra's workouts and he does sets of 4-5 on shoulder raises, 105's on seated front raises and 115's on standing side laterals. :o

i just saw that post..and i would'nt call him a liar to his face either HAHAHA he's a big bastard for sure! And with those numbers it would make sense! I mean look at the guy! I can do seated's with a little cheat with 80's but those kinda numbers are inhuman..and he's a pro for a reason..

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« Reply #166 on: March 31, 2008, 03:40:38 PM »
alllll righty. made the decision to scrap both the belt and singles for a while, so we'll see what's up.

MONDAY - pull day

deadlifts on a block: about 4-5" high, enough so that the bar was pretty much right on top of my feet, full pause at the bottom of each rep
135x5
225x5
315x3 - no chalk, got sweaty, slipped
405x5
405x4 - damn, 405x4,5 beltless on a block? the hell is going on?

SLDLs: still on the block
315x5
315x5
225x10

one-arm snatches: not a DB this time. a damn bar. reps still per side
45x3
95x2
105x1.5 - i SORTA got two reps on each side, but it was weird and ugly. still, fact remains i did get one solid rep per arm

suitcases: these again
135x5
185x3
185x3

pause squats: FULL depth. ass couldn't have been more than 6" above the ground on each rep
135x8
225x6
225x6

some GHRs, then abs, then stretching

weigh: 229

notes: something is seriously weird on my pull. if i'm hitting 405x5 beltless with pauses, i shouldn't be having such a hard time getting into the mid/high 500's belted from the floor. ah well, i'm going to stick with the beltless sets of 3-5 for a while. i'm sure my CNS will thank me.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #167 on: April 01, 2008, 03:20:13 PM »
shitty workout today.

TUESDAY - bench

flat bench: touch and go, etc
135x12
225x6
275x4
315x2 - shitty spot, was way off-balance
340x1
350x1 - not my best, but hey. it happened.

close-grip: doing the coan routine
225x8
225x8
225x10

incline:
135x10
185x8
205x6
225x5

DB rows: no straps, made it suck. reps given per arm.
120x8
120x8
120x8

front DB raises: one at a time, reps given per arm
45x6
55x6
60x6
60x6 - wow, these are "fun"

DB rows with two arms: quick sets
65x12
65x12

straight-bar curls:
80x12
110x10
110x10

DB curls:
55x8
55x8

dips:
30

weigh: 229.5

notes: again, after the heavy rows, my rest periods shot down. the first four exercises took around 50 minutes, the last few took about 15-20. after that it ain't heavy, just getting the muscle moving. makes my volume look a lot higher than it really is.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #168 on: April 03, 2008, 12:01:51 PM »
flat close grip and incline all in the same day?  ???

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #169 on: April 03, 2008, 12:15:39 PM »
flat close grip and incline all in the same day?  ???

i'm trying out something like the ed coan program. all the hard presses on one day, lighter assistance on another. after the heavy flat bench things get easier, i.e. i leave a rep or two in the tank instead of hitting failure. saturday i'll do things like rep-outs on the bench with feet up and militaries. just to mix it up.

THURSDAY - squat day, all without a belt.

box squats: parallel
135x5
225x5
315x5
365x3
365x3 - gah, this was AWFUL beltless.

pulls off a block: about 5" above the ground, pause each rep
135x5
225x5
315x5
405x4
405x3 - damn dude. i didn't go all out on these, but jeez. i felt weaker here than i did with the deficit pulls.

DB hang snatches:
95x6
95x5

leg press: goofy machine again
400x15
490x15
580x15
580x15

good mornings: strict, strict form, quick sets with almost no rest
135x15
135x15
135x15

abs and stretching

weight: 231

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #170 on: April 05, 2008, 05:10:08 PM »
so i'm in north carolina at a USMC base, and got a workout in. naturally, i HAD to at least go somewhat heavy. ::)

saturday - bench + assistance

flat bench: no maxing, but hey.
135x12
225x8
275x3
315x5
315x5
225x20 - didn't even need a spot on that. easy 20.

standing DB shoulder press:
65x10
65x10
75x6

DB rows: um. reps per side.
105x10
150x6 - god damn NO straps, had to go on pure grip here. they had a pair of 150s, i had to try!

pullups: varying grips
8 - dead hang pause
8 - same
12 - normal
10 - parallel grip
10 - weird grip

side/rear raises: somewhere between
45x10
45x10
55x6

tate presses: on a fairly high incline
50x12
50x10
50x10

hammer curls:
45x8
65x12
65x10

then, just because i felt like it, did two or three random high rep sets with light weights on shoulder raises and such.

weight: 231

notes: wow, 150x6 on DB rows. sure on the left side i had to let it clunk on the floor at one point, but fuggit. that was pretty rough. and the two sets of 315x5 weren't shabby either, especially since the first set was no pause at the top between any reps.

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« Reply #171 on: April 05, 2008, 08:52:08 PM »
Nice work. Show those USMC pussies what college students are all about these days! ;)


150 is the heaviest DB's I've gotten my hands on as well. Makes the old 120's feel like nothing. I use a mini band around the DB now to make it heavier and faster.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #172 on: April 05, 2008, 09:10:02 PM »
Nice work. Show those USMC pussies what college students are all about these days! ;)


150 is the heaviest DB's I've gotten my hands on as well. Makes the old 120's feel like nothing. I use a mini band around the DB now to make it heavier and faster.

it was actually pretty funny. aside from one guy who was juiced up so bad i thought he was about to explode, i was probably the biggest guy there. i also learned marines only own one of three kinds of shirt: beige marine shirt, black under armour, tap-out. that was ALL i saw.

dude, a mini on DB rows? yikes. that's gotta be pretty rough. i have a hard time going ultra heavy on them thanks to the balance.

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« Reply #173 on: April 06, 2008, 01:01:25 PM »
it was actually pretty funny. aside from one guy who was juiced up so bad i thought he was about to explode, i was probably the biggest guy there. i also learned marines only own one of three kinds of shirt: beige marine shirt, black under armour, tap-out. that was ALL i saw.

dude, a mini on DB rows? yikes. that's gotta be pretty rough. i have a hard time going ultra heavy on them thanks to the balance.

Marines are just like everyone else, they want to be a badass so they get a TapouT shirt!

You have to loop the band under a bench footing and put each end over the ends of the DB. Its far more explosive a movement and you dont get that long squeeze at the top, but you feel it the next day. It makes the eccentric movement twice as strenuous.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #174 on: April 06, 2008, 09:35:41 PM »
sounds worth trying to me. i'll go for it tuesday.

it's funny, when i was heavy, i hated pullups but loved rows. now that i can do pullups, i hate doing rows.  :P