Magoo: The Quest for a 405 bench

[tonymctones]

booya. i guess.

THURSDAY - squats

box squats: parallel.
135x5
225x5
315x3
365x1 - belt
405x1
435x1 - i meant for 430, but i forgot how heavy the big collars were.

SLDLs: on a block
135x10
225x6
315x5 - belt
315x5

DB hang snatches:
100x3/3
100x5/5

front squats: clean the bar first, no belt, etc.
135x10
165x8
165x8

abs

weight: 224

notes: bah.

awesome squating mang, good shet on the sldls too.

[SpeedDemon]

on those db hang snatches is that w/ a 50 in each hand or one 100lbs db??

[thewickedtruth]

damn dude! magoo is catching up to me!    sick work bro!

[MisterMagoo]

damn dude! magoo is catching up to me!    sick work bro!

lol, i wish! you're doing that plus 200 pounds of bands!

on those db hang snatches is that w/ a 50 in each hand or one 100lbs db??

one DB, one hand. i kinda "sumo" snatch it, since there's no easy way to do one-handed otherwise. anyway...

FRIDAY - bench assistance

close-grip: wasn't really feeling it. woulda done a 5x5 but had little energy.
135x10
225x6
275x5
315x3

bench 30's:
155x30
135x30

standing military:
135x10
135x8
135x7 - behind the neck
135x6 - behind the neck

pulldowns: underhand grip
200x10
200x10
200x10
200x10

DB curls: simultaneous
35x12
40x10
40x10
40x10

i think i did a set of dips maybe? or pushdowns. i forget.

weight: 224

[MisterMagoo]

rep 5 on 405x5 platform pulls and my lower back went.

i wasn't even going to do that today, but the squat racks were full and i couldn't do the GMs, i planned on.

the bitch is that it was easy fucking cake. but it's 95 with a ball load of humidity, so my hands were sweating and i slipped. went all off-balance and pow, there goes my lower back on the right fucking side.

pissed beyond belief right now. i'm going to fucking give up deadlifting. i've made almost zero progress in two years, no matter what the fuck i do.

[slaveboy1980]

rep 5 on 405x5 platform pulls and my lower back went.

i wasn't even going to do that today, but the squat racks were full and i couldn't do the GMs, i planned on.

the bitch is that it was easy fucking cake. but it's 95 with a ball load of humidity, so my hands were sweating and i slipped. went all off-balance and pow, there goes my lower back on the right fucking side.

pissed beyond belief right now. i'm going to fucking give up deadlifting. i've made almost zero progress in two years, no matter what the fuck i do.

damn sorry to hear that. do you think its serious?

 

[MisterMagoo]

damn sorry to hear that. do you think its serious?

 

nah. it's a lot more minor than the last time, but it's the fact that it keeps happening. it's like my body has almost no way to get the bar without tipping wrong.

i'll just go with the GMs for a while now and really beef up the lower back so this shit doesn't happen again.

[slaveboy1980]

nah. it's a lot more minor than the last time, but it's the fact that it keeps happening. it's like my body has almost no way to get the bar without tipping wrong.

i'll just go with the GMs for a while now and really beef up the lower back so this shit doesn't happen again.

the deadlift is a tricky lift. have you tried limiting heavy deadlifting to every other week?

for people who dont powerlift ('bodybuilders') i sometimes advice them to only do partial deadlifts. (and completely drop reg deadlifts)

but you probably already thought of this.

[chaos]

nah. it's a lot more minor than the last time, but it's the fact that it keeps happening. it's like my body has almost no way to get the bar without tipping wrong.

i'll just go with the GMs for a while now and really beef up the lower back so this shit doesn't happen again.

What is your stance/grip like? Your as tall as me, I don't have any problems with the bar "tipping".

[tonymctones]

rep 5 on 405x5 platform pulls and my lower back went.

i wasn't even going to do that today, but the squat racks were full and i couldn't do the GMs, i planned on.

the bitch is that it was easy fucking cake. but it's 95 with a ball load of humidity, so my hands were sweating and i slipped. went all off-balance and pow, there goes my lower back on the right fucking side.

pissed beyond belief right now. i'm going to fucking give up deadlifting. i've made almost zero progress in two years, no matter what the fuck i do.

shit sorry to hear that brosky... hope all is good take some rest heal up mang...youll be back deadlifting in no time  the power rack will call to you from across the gym YOU CANT STAY AWAY!!!!!!!

[MisterMagoo]

What is your stance/grip like? Your as tall as me, I don't have any problems with the bar "tipping".

it's my structure. i have short arms, a long torso, long femurs and short shins. it's really weird for pulling. i narrowed my stance and grip again and felt pretty good until my hands went too sweaty.

TUESDAY - bench

flat bench: going for 5x5s again. i didn't do it piston-style, but instead stopped at lockout for a brief second each time.
135x10
225x5
265x3
305x5
305x5 - sensed doom at this point.
305x4
305x4
305x3.5 - death. gimme another week and i think 305x5x5 will go down.

DB bench:
105x8
105x10
105x10

shoulders: friend suggest a round-robin thing doing front/side/rear raises
35x10/10/10
35x10/10/10 - ouch

pullups:
4x12 - four different grips

pulldowns:
140x15 - just to get blood flowin'.

pushdowns:
80x15
80x15

some curls

weight: 224

notes: beh. i went a little longer today just to make up for doing fuck all yesterday.

[Boost]

Whats your diet like? high fat? high carb? or just woteva u fancy?

[MisterMagoo]

nothing set in stone. i just aim for a solid protein source and a solid carb source in each meal, eating whenever i'm hungry. sometimes i have a few beers and i definitely have shitty meals more often than i'd like, but by and large i aim for clean-ish foods.

[Miss Demeanor]

pissed beyond belief right now. i'm going to fucking give up deadlifting. i've made almost zero progress in two years, no matter what the fuck i do.

Don't do that, Zack (it is Zack, right?).  I know you're discouraged and I feel for you, especially because you're doing so well with everything else. 

But you'll figure this out.  Maybe take a nice long break from deadlifts, but you won't have to give it up altogether.  Slaveboy has good ideas (as always!).  I'm sure you've considered his input, too, so I'm not sure what else to suggest to you   All I can say is something else you already know:  don't fall for the Gambler's fallacy.  In other words, if you've hit a snag, don't repeat the same actions and expect a favorable result.  Whatever you do will entail some change in training. 

Not very profound, but that's my two shiny pennies.  Well, maybe not so shiny

Good luck!

[MisterMagoo]

yeah, i was just mad 'cause my back hurt again. i know what i NEED to do, i just never do it. 

i need to hit my 5x5s with GMs, hell i need to do more GMs in general, but for some reason every week i get into the gym and just when i'm about to do things this little voice in my head says "go for it zach, you'll definitely rock 545 this week!" and then i end up fucking myself over. 

it's a good thing my bench is climbing, otherwise i'd be really discouraged.

[MisterMagoo]

THURSDAY - squats

box squats: had to go a little easy thanks to my back. parallel, maybe a touch under.
135x5
225x5
315x3 - hit the support pins on this one, had to lower 'em a bit.
335x5
335x5
335x5
335x5
335x5

SLDLs: no platform, no belt.
225x12
225x12
225x10 - ran outta gas

face pulls: on the pulldown machine
70x12
85x12
85x12

DB swings: left/right arms
85x10/10
85x10/10

some abs

weight: 223

notes: didn't eat well last night, sapped my energy. then, as if to make things worse, i had a sleeveless shirt on and my shoulders were sweating like mad, couldn't keep the bar steady. gimme a t-shirt chalked up and i'd say i'll do better next week. with a healed up back i'd say 365x5x5 is doable.

[Cap]

Good shit man.  Keep it up.

[burn2live]

Subbed to your youtube man. Loving the training log

[MisterMagoo]

Subbed to your youtube man. Loving the training log

haha, thanks man. i'm really crossing my fucking fingers that this switchup will get me out of my funk.

now i gotta decide what to do for assistance. i don't think close-grip is a good idea, so maybe military press, possibly with DBs.

[burn2live]

haha, thanks man. i'm really crossing my fucking fingers that this switchup will get me out of my funk.

now i gotta decide what to do for assistance. i don't think close-grip is a good idea, so maybe military press, possibly with DBs.

Military press really helped my bench. I rate it more highly than the bench actually. Much more functional and less chance of rotator cuff problems imo

[SpeedDemon]

One thing that really added support to my pressing motion was chain push ups.

we took the chains over at the squat rack, hung them from the top, adjusted the length to a few inches above the floor and clipped the cable cross handles to them. then we would put our feet on the bench and do push ups.

You really have to control your motion and it heavily recruits your stabilizing muscles for bench. you can adjust the feeling a lot by moving the top attachment of the chains closer or farther apart

[MisterMagoo]

hahaha, that's some clubber lang training shit there, man. 

[MisterMagoo]

hoo boy.

FRIDAY - bench assistance

DB shoulder press: yep. went for it.
40x15 - standing, just to warm up.
90x5
90x5
90x5
90x5
90x5 - holy hell this was bad. rep 5 needed help. neck kinked up a bit at the end.

close-grip bench:
135x12
225x10
225x10

DB rows: both arms simultaneously
85x10
85x10
85x10
85x10 - i remember reading that back work should be 4x10, without terrible struggle. went for that.

DB curls: simultaneous, palms up
40x10
45x10
50x8

dips:
2x15 - quick sets

weight: 223.9

notes: man, this 5x5 stuff is "fun". 

[Stubborn]

You will do the 5x5's and you will love them!


I however will pass on that garbage.

[MisterMagoo]

what's wrong with 5x5?