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Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« on: January 22, 2008, 08:54:30 PM »
Not a shock...

WASHINGTON - A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.

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The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."

The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.

White House spokesman Scott Stanzel did not comment on the merits of the study Tuesday night but reiterated the administration's position that the world community viewed Iraq's leader, Saddam Hussein, as a threat

cont... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_on_go_pr_wh/misinformation_study

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2008, 05:35:41 AM »
Not a shock...

WASHINGTON - A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.

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The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."

The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.

White House spokesman Scott Stanzel did not comment on the merits of the study Tuesday night but reiterated the administration's position that the world community viewed Iraq's leader, Saddam Hussein, as a threat

cont... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_on_go_pr_wh/misinformation_study



what a dumb study.  funny they didn't study the statements below...





October 9th, 1999 Letter to President Clinton Signed by Senators Levin, Lieberman, Lautenberg, Dodd, Kerrey, Feinstein, Mikulski, Daschle, Breaux, Johnson, Inouye, Landrieu, Ford and Kerry — all Democrats
“We urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions, including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
“This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world, and this is a guy who is in every way possible seeking weapons of mass destruction.”

Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998
“If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”

Chuck Schumer > October 10, 2002
“It is Hussein’s vigorous pursuit of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons, and his present and future potential support for terrorist acts and organizations that make him a danger to the people of the united states.”

Madeleine Albright > February 1, 1998
“We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and the security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction.”

Nancy Pelosi > December 16, 1998
“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”

John Kerry > January 23, 2003“Without question we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator leading an impressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he’s miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. His consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction.”

Al Gore > September 23, 2002
“We know that he has stored nuclear supplies, secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”

Sandy Berger > February 18, 1998
“He’ll use those weapons of mass destruction again as he has 10 times since 1983.”

John Kerry > October 9, 2002
“I will be voting to give the president of the US the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”

Senator Carl Levin > September 19, 2002
“We begin with a common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations, is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.”

Ted Kennedy > September 27, 2002
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”

Senator Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock. His missile delivery capability, his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists including Al-Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”

Jay Rockefeller > October 10, 2002 “There was unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. We also should remember that we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”

Madeleine Albright > November 10, 1999
“Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
“[H]e does have the capacity, as all terrorist-related operations do, of smuggling stuff into the United States and doing something terrible. That is true. But there’s been no connection, hard connection made yet between he and al-Qaida or his willingness or effort to do that thus far. Doesn’t mean he won’t. This is a bad guy.”

Robert Byrd > October 3, 2002
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of ‘98. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons.”

Madeline Albright > February 18, 2002
Iraq is a long way from (here), but what happens there matters a great deal here, for the risk that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest national security threat we face — and it is a threat against which we must and will stand firm.”

Al Gore > September 23, 2002
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter, and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”

Jane Harman > August 27, 2002“I certainly think (Hussein’s) developing nuclear capability which, fortunately, the Israelis set back 20 years ago with their preemptive attack which, in hindsight, looks pretty darn good.”

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002“I think he has anthrax. I have not seen any evidence that he has smallpox, but you hear them say, Tim (Russert), is the last smallpox outbreak in the world was in Iraq; ergo, he may have a strain.”

Dick Durbin > September 30, 1999“One of the most compelling threats we in this country face today is the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Threat assessments regularly warn us of the possibility that North Korea, Iran, Iraq, or some other nation may acquire or develop nuclear weapons.”

Bill Clinton > December 17, 1998“Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq…. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.”

Bill Nelson > August 25, 2002“[M]y own personal view is, I think Saddam
has chemical and biological weapons,
and I expect that he is trying to develop
a nuclear weapon. So at some point,
we might have to act precipitously.”

Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002“In the four years since the inspections, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program.”

Nancy Pelosi > October 10, 2002“Yes, he has chemical weapons. Yes, he has biological weapons. He is trying to get nuclear weapons.”

Dick Gephardt > September 23, 2002“(I have seen) a large body of intelligence information over a long time that he is working on and has weapons of mass destruction. Before 1991, he was close to a nuclear device. Now, you’ll get a debate about whether it’s one year away or five years away.”

Evan Bayh > August 4, 2002“I’m inclined to support going in there and dealing with Saddam, but I think that case
needs to be made on a separate basis: his possession of biological and chemical weapons, his desire to get nuclear weapons, his proven track record of attacking his neighbors and others.”

Russell Feingold > October 9, 2002“With regard to Iraq, I agree Iraq presents a genuine threat, especially in the form of weapons of mass destruction: chemical, biological and potentially nuclear weapons. I agree that Saddam Hussein is exceptionally dangerous and brutal, if not uniquely so, as the president argues.”

Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998“We have to defend our future from these predators of the 21st Century…. They will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen. There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein.”

Johnny Edwards > January 7, 2003“Serving on the intelligence committee and seeing day after day, week after week, briefings on Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction and his plans on using those weapons, he cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons. It’s just that simple. The whole world changes if Saddam ever has nuclear weapons.”

Hillary Clinton > January 22, 2003“I voted for the Iraqi resolution. I consider the prospect of a nuclear-armed Saddam Hussein who can threaten not only his neighbors but the stability of the region and the world, a very serious threat to the United States.”

John Kerry > January 31, 2003
“If you don’t believe…Saddam Hussein
is a threat with nuclear weapons, then
you shouldn’t vote for me.”

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002“We know he continues to attempt to gain access to additional capability, including nuclear capability.”

Bill Nelson > September 14, 2002“I believe he has chemical and biological weapons. I think he’s trying to develop nuclear weapons, and the fact that he might use those is a considerable threat to us.”

Johnny Edwards > February 6, 2003“The question is whether we’re going to allow this man who’s been developing weapons of mass destruction continue to develop weapons of mass destruction, get nuclear capability and get to the place where — if we’re going to stop him if he invades a country around him — it’ll cost millions of lives as opposed to thousands of lives.”

Al Gore > September 23, 2002“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002“First of all, we don’t know exactly what he has. It’s been five years since inspectors have been in there, number one. Number two, it is clear that he has residual of chemical weapons and biological weapons, number one.”

Tom Daschle > February 11, 1998“The (Clinton) administration has said, ‘Look, we have exhausted virtually our diplomatic effort to get the Iraqis to comply with their own agreements and with international law. Given that, what other option is there but to force them to do so?’ That’s what they’re saying. This is the key question. And the answer is we don’t have another option. We have got to force them to comply, and we are doing so militarily.”

Senator Bob Graham > December 8, 2002
“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has and has had for a number of years a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.”

Bill Richardson > May 29, 1998“The threat of nuclear proliferation is one of the big challenges that we have now, especially by states that have nuclear weapons, outlaw states like Iraq.”

John Kerry > February 23, 1998
“Saddam Hussein has already used these weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to continue to try, by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do so. That is a threat to the stability of the Middle East. It is a threat with respect to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis. It is a threat even to regions near but not exactly in the Middle East.”

Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002“It is clear, however, that if left unchecked Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”

Al Gore > December 16, 1998f you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons? He has already demonstrated a willingness to use such weapons…”




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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2008, 08:02:20 AM »


what a dumb study.  funny they didn't study the statements below...





October 9th, 1999 Letter to President Clinton Signed by Senators Levin, Lieberman, Lautenberg, Dodd, Kerrey, Feinstein, Mikulski, Daschle, Breaux, Johnson, Inouye, Landrieu, Ford and Kerry — all Democrats
“We urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions, including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
“This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world, and this is a guy who is in every way possible seeking weapons of mass destruction.”

Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998
“If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”

Chuck Schumer > October 10, 2002
“It is Hussein’s vigorous pursuit of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons, and his present and future potential support for terrorist acts and organizations that make him a danger to the people of the united states.”

Madeleine Albright > February 1, 1998
“We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and the security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction.”

Nancy Pelosi > December 16, 1998
“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”

John Kerry > January 23, 2003“Without question we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator leading an impressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he’s miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. His consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction.”

Al Gore > September 23, 2002
“We know that he has stored nuclear supplies, secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”

Sandy Berger > February 18, 1998
“He’ll use those weapons of mass destruction again as he has 10 times since 1983.”

John Kerry > October 9, 2002
“I will be voting to give the president of the US the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”

Senator Carl Levin > September 19, 2002
“We begin with a common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations, is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.”

Ted Kennedy > September 27, 2002
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”

Senator Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock. His missile delivery capability, his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists including Al-Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”

Jay Rockefeller > October 10, 2002 “There was unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. We also should remember that we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”

Madeleine Albright > November 10, 1999
“Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
“[H]e does have the capacity, as all terrorist-related operations do, of smuggling stuff into the United States and doing something terrible. That is true. But there’s been no connection, hard connection made yet between he and al-Qaida or his willingness or effort to do that thus far. Doesn’t mean he won’t. This is a bad guy.”

Robert Byrd > October 3, 2002
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of ‘98. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons.”

Madeline Albright > February 18, 2002
Iraq is a long way from (here), but what happens there matters a great deal here, for the risk that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest national security threat we face — and it is a threat against which we must and will stand firm.”

Al Gore > September 23, 2002
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter, and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”

Jane Harman > August 27, 2002“I certainly think (Hussein’s) developing nuclear capability which, fortunately, the Israelis set back 20 years ago with their preemptive attack which, in hindsight, looks pretty darn good.”

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002“I think he has anthrax. I have not seen any evidence that he has smallpox, but you hear them say, Tim (Russert), is the last smallpox outbreak in the world was in Iraq; ergo, he may have a strain.”

Dick Durbin > September 30, 1999“One of the most compelling threats we in this country face today is the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Threat assessments regularly warn us of the possibility that North Korea, Iran, Iraq, or some other nation may acquire or develop nuclear weapons.”

Bill Clinton > December 17, 1998“Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq…. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.”

Bill Nelson > August 25, 2002“[M]y own personal view is, I think Saddam
has chemical and biological weapons,
and I expect that he is trying to develop
a nuclear weapon. So at some point,
we might have to act precipitously.”

Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002“In the four years since the inspections, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program.”

Nancy Pelosi > October 10, 2002“Yes, he has chemical weapons. Yes, he has biological weapons. He is trying to get nuclear weapons.”

Dick Gephardt > September 23, 2002“(I have seen) a large body of intelligence information over a long time that he is working on and has weapons of mass destruction. Before 1991, he was close to a nuclear device. Now, you’ll get a debate about whether it’s one year away or five years away.”

Evan Bayh > August 4, 2002“I’m inclined to support going in there and dealing with Saddam, but I think that case
needs to be made on a separate basis: his possession of biological and chemical weapons, his desire to get nuclear weapons, his proven track record of attacking his neighbors and others.”

Russell Feingold > October 9, 2002“With regard to Iraq, I agree Iraq presents a genuine threat, especially in the form of weapons of mass destruction: chemical, biological and potentially nuclear weapons. I agree that Saddam Hussein is exceptionally dangerous and brutal, if not uniquely so, as the president argues.”

Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998“We have to defend our future from these predators of the 21st Century…. They will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen. There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein.”

Johnny Edwards > January 7, 2003“Serving on the intelligence committee and seeing day after day, week after week, briefings on Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction and his plans on using those weapons, he cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons. It’s just that simple. The whole world changes if Saddam ever has nuclear weapons.”

Hillary Clinton > January 22, 2003“I voted for the Iraqi resolution. I consider the prospect of a nuclear-armed Saddam Hussein who can threaten not only his neighbors but the stability of the region and the world, a very serious threat to the United States.”

John Kerry > January 31, 2003
“If you don’t believe…Saddam Hussein
is a threat with nuclear weapons, then
you shouldn’t vote for me.”

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002“We know he continues to attempt to gain access to additional capability, including nuclear capability.”

Bill Nelson > September 14, 2002“I believe he has chemical and biological weapons. I think he’s trying to develop nuclear weapons, and the fact that he might use those is a considerable threat to us.”

Johnny Edwards > February 6, 2003“The question is whether we’re going to allow this man who’s been developing weapons of mass destruction continue to develop weapons of mass destruction, get nuclear capability and get to the place where — if we’re going to stop him if he invades a country around him — it’ll cost millions of lives as opposed to thousands of lives.”

Al Gore > September 23, 2002“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002“First of all, we don’t know exactly what he has. It’s been five years since inspectors have been in there, number one. Number two, it is clear that he has residual of chemical weapons and biological weapons, number one.”

Tom Daschle > February 11, 1998“The (Clinton) administration has said, ‘Look, we have exhausted virtually our diplomatic effort to get the Iraqis to comply with their own agreements and with international law. Given that, what other option is there but to force them to do so?’ That’s what they’re saying. This is the key question. And the answer is we don’t have another option. We have got to force them to comply, and we are doing so militarily.”

Senator Bob Graham > December 8, 2002
“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has and has had for a number of years a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.”

Bill Richardson > May 29, 1998“The threat of nuclear proliferation is one of the big challenges that we have now, especially by states that have nuclear weapons, outlaw states like Iraq.”

John Kerry > February 23, 1998
“Saddam Hussein has already used these weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to continue to try, by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do so. That is a threat to the stability of the Middle East. It is a threat with respect to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis. It is a threat even to regions near but not exactly in the Middle East.”

Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002“It is clear, however, that if left unchecked Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”

Al Gore > December 16, 1998f you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons? He has already demonstrated a willingness to use such weapons…”




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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2008, 08:21:59 AM »


....nuff said
I don't get it, how is Bush vindicated by what a bunch of asswipes POS politicians swept up in the neocon's united we stand propaganda?

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2008, 08:28:08 AM »
Ah yes.  The facts again.   :)

yeah got to agree.

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2008, 08:29:26 AM »
Ah yes.  The facts again.   :)
Yea, I think I remember, you were one of those that liked to excuse Bush's ways because Clinton did it too ::)  Same logic here I guess, but it doesn't even really apply.  had you spent the time to look at things I tried to show you over and over and over you would know these statements were all made based partially or in whole on a briefing prepared by the administration which was filled with lies created out of the fake intelligence agency concocted in the pentagon because the CIA wouldn't say what they wanted.  But good god, try to get you to read more than 50 words or watch more than 3 minutes.  Never...  Some of us will be informed while others only want the spark notes of the spark notes and talk like they have the facts ::)

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2008, 08:30:31 AM »
yeah got to agree.
but of course you do.

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2008, 08:35:52 AM »
Thats hilarious.....How is a "SCUD" missle a WMD!!   Of course the FACTS show no weapons of Mass destruction.

Saddamn was just posing like he was a tuff guy, cuz the bully down the street had a hard-on for him.

Clinton as it turned out was right again......patience my little war-mongers! ;)

I heard when we hung saddamn his head came off.... :o

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2008, 08:37:11 AM »
but of course you do.

Of course I do. funny after the fact now we have "independent" groups guarding and claiming they have uncovered the truth. Where were they with their fundraisers and grants into this subject 6 years ago?

To point blame at one individual and others around him, is hardly scientific.

I guess they counted that lie, when he told his wife he loved the shirt he bought her?

Even world psychologists will agree this study is subjective to the max. The real study now is to uncover the donors of this "study" and reveal their bias.

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2008, 08:40:58 AM »
part of an article

UPDATE:


AP Ignores 'Bush Lied' Study Funded by Ultra-leftist George Soros


Well, the AP has done it again. They have given us leftist propaganda and painted it as news. This time they have published the results of a "study" that claims that "Bush lied" in the run-up to Iraq and somehow the AP forgot to mention that the organization that released this study was funded by extreme leftist George Soros, who has spent billions funding the Democrat Party and many far left think tank and advocacy organizations. Yeah, THAT study is going to be legitimate!

This one may as well have been just a reprint of the press release of the Soros-funded Center for Public Integrity, but the AP dressed it up as an actual story written by reporter Douglass K. Daniel. Headlined "Study: False statements preceded war," the AP reveals how, "A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks."
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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2008, 08:48:24 AM »
part of an article

UPDATE:


AP Ignores 'Bush Lied' Study Funded by Ultra-leftist George Soros


Well, the AP has done it again. They have given us leftist propaganda and painted it as news. This time they have published the results of a "study" that claims that "Bush lied" in the run-up to Iraq and somehow the AP forgot to mention that the organization that released this study was funded by extreme leftist George Soros, who has spent billions funding the Democrat Party and many far left think tank and advocacy organizations. Yeah, THAT study is going to be legitimate!

This one may as well have been just a reprint of the press release of the Soros-funded Center for Public Integrity, but the AP dressed it up as an actual story written by reporter Douglass K. Daniel. Headlined "Study: False statements preceded war," the AP reveals how, "A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks."



You dont like the truth, do you?    Any blind man can see the war is corporate BS and LIES are what convinced most to "Shock&Awe" Iraq. ::)

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2008, 09:31:13 AM »
You don't need an ultra liberal study to know Bush lied, he did period... didn't you get that memo ;)

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/view/

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2008, 10:26:12 AM »
Yea, I think I remember, you were one of those that liked to excuse Bush's ways because Clinton did it too ::)  Same logic here I guess, but it doesn't even really apply.  had you spent the time to look at things I tried to show you over and over and over you would know these statements were all made based partially or in whole on a briefing prepared by the administration which was filled with lies created out of the fake intelligence agency concocted in the pentagon because the CIA wouldn't say what they wanted.  But good god, try to get you to read more than 50 words or watch more than 3 minutes.  Never...  Some of us will be informed while others only want the spark notes of the spark notes and talk like they have the facts ::)

You remember wrong.  I never said any such thing about Bush and Clinton. 

What the facts show is vast sections of our country and the world thought Saddam was a threat and had or was trying to obtain WMDs.  The argument that Bush misled the world is just ridiculous.  The comments in the link mightymouse posted show the same concerns expressed both before and after Bush took office, dating back to 1998, from both Democrats and Republicans.   

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2008, 10:30:48 AM »
Dec 14, 2006.

Bush stood in the Rose Garden and said we needed to invade Iraq so that they were not able to hold our economy hostage with oil.  He said we couldn't allow anyone but ourselves to control the flow, to ensure stability of our economy.

It might have slipped out, after being asked about the real reason for the war, on a cold day in DC.  Maybe he was irritated with the Qs, maybe he just wanted to be straight with us.  I don't know.

Bush admitted the war was to ensure the flow of oil to the USA.

You can say "yeah, but, but, it was also about..." and list a million reasons.  Maybe it was to rescue trapped pixies from a cotton candy lake.  It doesn't matter.  We are there to control oil and keep it sold to us, in dollars.  Period.  Bush admitted it, and now the contracts are in place which absolutely prove it.

Iraq was about oil.  No one is denying it anymore, in case you haven't noticed.  Except relics here on the Politics board.

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2008, 10:31:47 AM »
A George Soros funded study..again what the Left says is the truth..only the Right plays fast and loose with the facts right. yeah.... ::)
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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2008, 11:06:48 AM »
You remember wrong.  I never said any such thing about Bush and Clinton. 

What the facts show is vast sections of our country and the world thought Saddam was a threat and had or was trying to obtain WMDs.  The argument that Bush misled the world is just ridiculous.  The comments in the link mightymouse posted show the same concerns expressed both before and after Bush took office, dating back to 1998, from both Democrats and Republicans.   
Well I guess you get the facts you want when you only look at what you want to see. ::)  You guys are really good at denoucing information for coming from a left leaning source and only holding rightwing sources up as valid--I'm sure that works out real well for you guys. ::)  and you do note that past presidents did X too so there's nothing to see here, move on.

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2008, 11:20:04 AM »
all those dem quotes from 1998....

that was BEFORE we sent in UN inspectros in 2002.

What did they find?  Nothing.

Saddam let them look at everything except his private bathrooms, which he took a cultural front to.  Yes, it was dumb, but did anyone believe he had WMD in there?

Anyway, all those quotes were dispoven by new intel in 2002-3.

The UN believed he DID NOT have WMD, but the US invaded anyway.

Not that I care, but be honest if you're using 1998 quotes - that was before inspections.

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2008, 11:53:13 AM »
all those dem quotes from 1998....

that was BEFORE we sent in UN inspectros in 2002.

What did they find?  Nothing.

Saddam let them look at everything except his private bathrooms, which he took a cultural front to.  Yes, it was dumb, but did anyone believe he had WMD in there?

Anyway, all those quotes were dispoven by new intel in 2002-3.

The UN believed he DID NOT have WMD, but the US invaded anyway.

Not that I care, but be honest if you're using 1998 quotes - that was before inspections.

Saddam blocked inspections for years and violated resolution after resolution. This is not how someone with nothing to hide behaves.

The fact is Saddam used WMD's multiple times against the Iranians and his own people. Where did these weapons go? Nobody knows.

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2008, 11:55:55 AM »
Saddam blocked inspections for years and violated resolution after resolution. This is not how someone with nothing to hide behaves.

The fact is Saddam used WMD's multiple times against the Iranians and his own people. Where did these weapons go? Nobody knows.

we found a lot of them.  They were decrepit, 15 year old canisters with the killing power of bug spray.

Also noteworty is that we gave his universities those WMD strains to begin with.

Saddam was an ass, and I'm glad he's gone, and I'm glad we have iraqi oil now.  I support the war.

I just don't support the delusional story you're selling here.  The UN inspectors found no WMD.  We bombed them anyway.  Can you admit that much?

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2008, 12:09:36 PM »
we found a lot of them.  They were decrepit, 15 year old canisters with the killing power of bug spray.

Also noteworty is that we gave his universities those WMD strains to begin with.

Saddam was an ass, and I'm glad he's gone, and I'm glad we have iraqi oil now.  I support the war.

I just don't support the delusional story you're selling here.  The UN inspectors found no WMD.  We bombed them anyway.  Can you admit that much?

Delusional stories? I'm just recalling recent history, I'm not even implying anything. Saddam may have scrapped his program years ago, who knows? But he did not behave that way leading up to the war. He made the weapons inspectors job very difficult back in 02, it's not like he was leading them to the site where his WMD's were destroyed or anything.

But in a nutshell, yes we didn't find any WMD's and we bombed him anyway. The thing is that we're talking about a dictatorship run by the Butcher of Baghdad, he earned that nickname. People on the left reacted to the war like America invaded Switzerland or something.

Not only that but Gaddaffi was so terrified after he saw Saddam pulled out of his rathole and humiliated, that he voluntarily gave up his WMD program. Two for the price of one!

Basically I'm not all that concerned if the evidence against toppling a murderous dictator isn't totally airtight. I guess that makes me a total nazi :)

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Re: Study: Bush, officials made false statements prior to Iraq war
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2008, 12:13:58 PM »
Thats fine i speak some German.....i would prefer u find neutral sites...because nope i don't believe a fucking thing the left says..they're blinded by Bush hate to the point of wishing the US to collapse.
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