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Re: PICTURE PROOF OF THE BIGGEST ROBBERY IN BODYBUILDING HISTORY!!!!
« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2008, 06:18:28 PM »
Narcisstic Diety!  ;D

Yea, laugh at a silly name... like grade school.

Debate the issue with him, don't just resort to blue collar loser stuff.
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« Reply #51 on: January 25, 2008, 06:20:58 PM »
Yea, laugh at a silly name... like grade school.

Debate the issue with him, don't just resort to blue collar loser stuff.

Okay, "True Git"  ;D

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« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2008, 06:26:33 PM »
Okay, "True Git"  ;D

You understand my point though CJ? It's like school. I'm sure that some guys on here left school early to stack shelves or some such deadbeat shit but some of us went all the way and ended up with a university education.

 Just because most bodybuilders are uneducated, dumb drug addicts it doesn't mean we have to follow their lead. There is a serious issue here that it would be interesting to explore.

Do you not think that modern bodybuilding has evolved to a point where the best back always seems to win the O?
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« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2008, 06:36:22 PM »
You understand my point though CJ? It's like school. I'm sure that some guys on here left school early to stack shelves or some such deadbeat shit but some of us went all the way and ended up with a university education.

 Just because most bodybuilders are uneducated, dumb drug addicts it doesn't mean we have to follow their lead. There is a serious issue here that it would be interesting to explore.

Do you not think that modern bodybuilding has evolved to a point where the best back always seems to win the O?

Yes, but streak might have broken with Jay.

Doz should have lost because he got overpowered in so many departments. Dorian only had back on him. He won pretty much two poses: back lat spread and back relaxed. That's about it. He lost on all mandatories and bodyparts.

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Re: PICTURE PROOF OF THE BIGGEST ROBBERY IN BODYBUILDING HISTORY!!!!
« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2008, 06:40:11 PM »
Yes, but streak might have broken with Jay.

Doz should have lost because he got overpowered in so many departments. Dorian only had back on him. He won pretty much two poses: back lat spread and back relaxed. That's about it. He lost on all mandatories and bodyparts.

Good post. Jay has brought his back up and Coleman's deteriorated markedly so when it came to the O Jay deserved to win - 2006 - then he probably edged it even on back ( I may be wrong on this as I have followed the O less and less as the bodies have looked more and more ridiculous).

In some of the photos it really does look like Nasser is in pole position. It's certainly close, hence why the debate still rages..
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Re: PICTURE PROOF OF THE BIGGEST ROBBERY IN BODYBUILDING HISTORY!!!!
« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2008, 06:55:37 PM »
Also, how good a poser was Nasser? I haven't seen him much. A lot of it is down to illusion and I think Doz was a decent, powerful poser.

We see a single snapshot..a quick stolen moment when in reality these guys are moving all the time from pose to pose. If one is doing it better then that will be a factor.
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« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2008, 07:06:24 PM »


We see a single snapshot..a quick stolen moment

Jesus, you should be writing poetry.

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« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2008, 07:09:23 PM »
This is a great thread!
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« Reply #58 on: January 25, 2008, 07:47:43 PM »

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« Reply #59 on: January 25, 2008, 08:00:53 PM »
Nasser was a mr Olympia to the front a top pro to the side and a non placing USA CONTESTANT TO THE REAR, get over it, he was a great bodybuilder, a very intellligent guy, a great guest poser. But he did not deserve the olympia ever as he was that bad to the rear same with DILLET dont hear him whining, his back wasnt bad it was terrible.

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« Reply #60 on: January 25, 2008, 08:05:26 PM »
If Nassers back was "terrible", i guess Yates would qualify as dogshit.  I agree with the people who think Nasser won a couple of Mr O's. 

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Re: PICTURE PROOF OF THE BIGGEST ROBBERY IN BODYBUILDING HISTORY!!!!
« Reply #61 on: January 25, 2008, 08:12:20 PM »
the results speak for themselves bro, why would they give it to a white skinheaded racist englishman with a criminal record, because he was simply better, he was competitive with nasser in all shots, i give nasser the front bis yates front lat, side chest and tris have to give to yates similar size but head to toe conditioning especially through the hammies and glutes, to the rear lights out its daylight, in a nutshell though we can argue all day bbut the facts are Nasser was a great bodybuilder but Yates was Mr Olympia, his ab shot was bad later on but thats one pose Nasser was bad in rear lat, rear bis and whilst tight through the glutes and hams was never shredded, and at that level that equals runner up if your lucky.

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Re: PICTURE PROOF OF THE BIGGEST ROBBERY IN BODYBUILDING HISTORY!!!!
« Reply #62 on: January 25, 2008, 08:30:00 PM »
"And to come back to 1997 (Mr. Olympia), Flex Wheeler came to me after the prejudging (which was on a Friday, so that they had the finals on Saturday - in order for them to generate more entrance ticket money in Long Beach, California) and told me backstage if I knew that they would not give me my very deserved title. I did not say too much because I hoped that he was wrong. But as we all know, Dorian Yates won the Olympia again, the very next day.

He won despite a huge belly (looking like he was pregnant in the sixth month), a waist like a drum, a torn up left biceps, a freshly torn left triceps, a quad tear left, a quad tear right, a torn right hip.

He won it with a perfect score, which was just unbelievable. This was a completely staged outcome and the biggest bodybuilding robbery of the 20th century by the clique of judges who "judged".

I also have to say that some judges had Dorian Yates even in third and fourth place, because about 13 judges judged officially. I think you just use seven of the score sheets. But these judges' (who scored Dorian lower) score sheets had not been used and some of the judges' had then been removed from the judging panel because they did not produce what was expected of them to produce.

There are multiple reasons why I did not win. Some judges did not want to upset their friend Dorian and they did not want him to go out of bodybuilding with a defeat after all his injuries and tears. They did not want to give another non-U.S. guy the most prestigious title in bodybuilding because it would underline the U.S. inferiority in bodybuilding compared to non-U.S. athletes.

Then definitely another reason is that I am so outspoken and not just an order follower. That I say how it is, and do not brown nose and make phone calls in order to "secure" a placement like so may others who play the official tough guy.

I have no problem calling people up, but not for the sole purpose of placing here and there in a certain spot. And I am, for too many people, far too educated and too intelligent. And they realized I could be a danger to them if I was the new titleholder.

And last but not least, when people saw my body they figured they couldn't achieve that. Before doing this they would rather be dead. So I was also physically too freaky and too big, even for pro bodybuilding. And I was also critical about judges and co-competitors and did not deny it when I was questioned about that.

- Nasser in his part 1 interview with David Robson

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« Reply #63 on: January 25, 2008, 08:35:56 PM »
id like to see all of the 2 or 3 dorian nuthuggers refute that solid argument Huge Nasser made in his bb.com interview #1, which bigbobs kindly pasted over here

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Re: PICTURE PROOF OF THE BIGGEST ROBBERY IN BODYBUILDING HISTORY!!!!
« Reply #64 on: January 26, 2008, 01:19:05 AM »
ive heard this many times, that dorian had some kind of muscle quality above all competitors, but it could only be seen in person and not in pictures  ::)
its true... to really get a OVERALL grasp of Dorians physique and muscle size,thickness,density and fiberous conditioning on every bodypart you had to see him in person competing.Iam not disputing anyones opinion everyone has there favourites...but I saw him win the Olympia 2 times and guest pose at close to 300lbs.....and fuck as soon as he started to  pose it was a site to behold...
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« Reply #65 on: January 26, 2008, 01:30:34 AM »
Again, more and more 1st hand evidence supporting Yates compared to dweebs reeking of desperation LOL. I love all these theories about how Nasser couldn't win because he wasn't American yet Yates could somehow LMFAO.
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Re: PICTURE PROOF OF THE BIGGEST ROBBERY IN BODYBUILDING HISTORY!!!!
« Reply #66 on: January 26, 2008, 05:03:15 AM »
its true... to really get a OVERALL grasp of Dorians physique and muscle size,thickness,density and fiberous conditioning on every bodypart you had to see him in person competing.Iam not disputing anyones opinion everyone has there favourites...but I saw him win the Olympia 2 times and guest pose at close to 300lbs.....and fuck as soon as he started to  pose it was a site to behold...
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Isn't this true for any body builder? Why would there be a difference? It doesn't make sense and why should we take a strangers word for it?
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Re: PICTURE PROOF OF THE BIGGEST ROBBERY IN BODYBUILDING HISTORY!!!!
« Reply #67 on: January 26, 2008, 05:13:08 AM »
Again, more and more 1st hand evidence supporting Yates compared to dweebs reeking of desperation LOL. I love all these theories about how Nasser couldn't win because he wasn't American yet Yates could somehow LMFAO.

When will you get back to the important stuff like licking ND's nuts some more?

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« Reply #68 on: January 26, 2008, 05:17:48 AM »
Isn't this true for any body builder? Why would there be a difference? It doesn't make sense and why should we take a strangers word for it?

You mean common sense?

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Re: PICTURE PROOF OF THE BIGGEST ROBBERY IN BODYBUILDING HISTORY!!!!
« Reply #69 on: January 26, 2008, 05:23:12 AM »
LOL there's only 45 shots or so of different BBs from the 90s who deserved to win some of Yates' soiled "perfect score wins".

haha, Nasser's back looks as soft as a baby's ass compared to Dorians. And i know if it was a real photograph rather than some blurred picture the difference would even be more apparent

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« Reply #70 on: January 26, 2008, 05:44:00 AM »
how convenient for dorian, you can only grasp him muscle definition in person, give me a fucking break, pictues do none of these guys justice, everything you say about dorian can be said about all the other competitors

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Re: PICTURE PROOF OF THE BIGGEST ROBBERY IN BODYBUILDING HISTORY!!!!
« Reply #71 on: January 26, 2008, 05:47:41 AM »
HEY ASSHOLES....

HOW MANY OLYMPIA'S DID NASSER WIN?

NONE. ZERO.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHA.

let it go already. he sucked as a bodybuilder, and is now just a balding has-been who cant accept he was second rate.

hope this helps.
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Re: PICTURE PROOF OF THE BIGGEST ROBBERY IN BODYBUILDING HISTORY!!!!
« Reply #72 on: January 26, 2008, 05:57:49 AM »
how convenient for dorian, you can only grasp him muscle definition in person, give me a fucking break, pictues do none of these guys justice, everything you say about dorian can be said about all the other competitors

It's not convenient its a fact , see a pattern here?

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Hulkster, I have one question for you? .... Were you there in Long Beach in 97?  Because I was.  AND I was there in 93 & 95 in Atlanta & 96 in Chicago.  It's been said a million times. Yates has a Thickness & density from every angle that had to be seen in person, and that NOBODY else had.

I think Milos is awesome. I would LOVE to have his body, but Yates smoked everybody in the totality of ALL poses.  From the side & from the back, yates crushed everybody.

Unless you were there, you cannot really say accurately.  BTW, Demilia gave me tickets right behind the judges every year.

Not flaming, but Yates reigned supreme.. YES. HIS GUT was sticking out in 97 & Nasser looked as good, or maybe a hair better from the front in 97, but when they turned to the side & rear, DORIAN ruled again.



While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.


Flex magazine Jan 1992 on Dorian Yates

" Dorian has the type of physique that looks much better and more powerfull in person than photos. I personally saw him onstage , and Yates if definitely light years ahead of the way he looks in photos.



MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia


" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED. And while he's not in possession of the prettiest physique body by a long shot , he's equipped with all the bodyparts you need to win .

Combine this with the fact that he's 10 TIMES more impressive when you see him onstage at the Olympia than he is in pictures or on videos and you got yourself a winner.


This is a quote from John Hotten book " Muscle "

" Chris Cormier standing next to Dorian onstage he sensed ' radiation coming off him , like an aura. ' The power of that muscle was tangible. It exerted a force all of its own.  Cormier thought ' I might as well forget about this guy and concentrate on being second. ' There was something else , too , strange. You had to witness him in the flesh. such granite hradness had a property that could nor be held on film or caught on paper. You had to see it live.


Peter McGough Flex Magazine May 2002

Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example).



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Re: PICTURE PROOF OF THE BIGGEST ROBBERY IN BODYBUILDING HISTORY!!!!
« Reply #73 on: January 26, 2008, 06:30:13 AM »
Nasser Mr Olympia from the front lol to bad the pre-judging doesn't stop there

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Re: PICTURE PROOF OF THE BIGGEST ROBBERY IN BODYBUILDING HISTORY!!!!
« Reply #74 on: January 26, 2008, 06:33:24 AM »
Diety you are pathetic. Your racist skinhead looks worse than Nasser in every single photograph. He dominates the former skinhead and convicted criminal.