Do the Pros take 7-10 days to dehydrate before a show !!!

[The Master]

i hope not!! i usually don't decide till 3 or 4 weeks out, but i think i'm getting a little too old. did my first Canadians in 1991.

good luck to you. are you growing good since your show last year??

What is the heaviest cycle you have ever done? mgs and substances?

[Stavios]

i hope not!! i usually don't decide till 3 or 4 weeks out, but i think i'm getting a little too old. did my first Canadians in 1991.

good luck to you. are you growing good since your show last year??

yeah I am only about 220 lbs right now, I should end up at 205 lbs onstage this year

still skinny but it will be 15 lbs heavier than last year and I compete in the teen class so I shouldn't look too bad

[kyomu]

yeah I am only about 220 lbs right now, I should end up at 205 lbs onstage this year

still skinny but it will be 15 lbs heavier than last year and I compete in the teen class so I shouldn't look too bad

Wow still you are teen? Thats amazing.

[Stavios]

Wow still you are teen? Thats amazing.

well I just turned 20 but here in canada we compete as a teen until we are 21 

[hazbin]

yeah I am only about 220 lbs right now, I should end up at 205 lbs onstage this year

still skinny but it will be 15 lbs heavier than last year and I compete in the teen class so I shouldn't look too bad

15 lbs. heavier you will not look skinny. if that one freak buddy of yours is too old for juniors you should have a good shot.

i did Canada's this year in edmonton. didn't use any diuretics but didn't really diet either. came in just about 235 at 5' 10". I liked my look better but it's not what the judges like. (second from the left)

[hazbin]

What is the heaviest cycle you have ever done? mgs and substances?

have you heard of anavar??







i did everything except that!!!  haha

actually not very high doses, but everyone says that.  i pretty much gave up on serious competitions after 1991. (i started my gym then).  i looked my best in '91 and couldn't get as disciplined again.

now i just compete to give myself a reason to stop boozing for a few months.

[kyomu]

15 lbs. heavier you will not look skinny. if that one freak buddy of yours is too old for juniors you should have a good shot.

i did Canada's this year in edmonton. didn't use any diuretics but didn't really diet either. came in just about 235 at 5' 10". I liked my look better but it's not what the judges like. (second from the left)

You look great both mass and conditionning. But its the matter of lower body that judges didnt like you i guess..

[The Master]

have you heard of anavar??







i did everything except that!!!  haha

actually not very high doses, but everyone says that.  i pretty much gave up on serious competitions after 1991. (i started my gym then).  i looked my best in '91 and couldn't get as disciplined again.

now i just compete to give myself a reason to stop boozing for a few months.

Lol. No health problems or anything?

[kyomu]

well I just turned 20 but here in canada we compete as a teen until we are 21 

Wow then still i think you are a monster..

[hazbin]

Lol. No health problems or anything?

no haven't broke any homerun records or strangled any retards or women either; my juice musta been fake.

[kyomu]

have you heard of anavar??







i did everything except that!!!  haha

actually not very high doses, but everyone says that.  i pretty much gave up on serious competitions after 1991. (i started my gym then).  i looked my best in '91 and couldn't get as disciplined again.

now i just compete to give myself a reason to stop boozing for a few months.

Damn look great!

[Stavios]

that one freak buddy of yours is too old for juniors you should have a good shot.

he will be competing... in the open class  

[Stavios]

no haven't broke any homerun records or strangled any retards or women either; my juice musta been fake.

LMAO 

[hazbin]

he will be competing... in the open class  

that's all i need. to stand next to a guy with legs like that. i couldn't even train legs the last few years. i have 4 bulging discs and three are arthritic. it's ok though, i had it coming. haha

[Matt C]

have you heard of anavar??







i did everything except that!!!  haha

LOL!  haha, good one.

Did you compete with BIG KEITH SCHWEITZER?  From musclememory:

http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?s=KEITH+SCHWEITZER&g=M

I love old time juicers.  By "old time", I don't necessarily mean of old age, but simply referring to 20+ years of sauce in them.  Proof to me it can't be as bad as they say it is.  Keith has around 20-25 years of sauce in him.

[kyomu]

that's all i need. to stand next to a guy with legs like that. i couldn't even train legs the last few years. i have 4 bulging discs and three are arthritic. it's ok though, i had it coming. haha

Uh..I see it now....

[hazbin]

LOL!  haha, good one.

Did you compete with BIG KEITH SCHWEITZER?  From musclememory:

http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?s=KEITH+SCHWEITZER&g=M

I love old time juicers.  By "old time", I don't necessarily mean of old age, but simply referring to 20+ years of sauce in them.  Proof to me it can't be as bad as they say it is.  Keith has around 20-25 years of sauce in him.

actually Keith lived in Calgary and trained at my gym for a year. if you know him  tell him rik says hi!!

[hazbin]

the most dangerous thing i ever did for a contest was at the 1999 Canada cup. i wanted to stay away from diuretics so a local trainer talked me into cutting sodium and loading pottasium citrate. in theory it should draw all subcutaneous water into the muscle. the trainer miscalculated my pottasium by 250% and i don't think i was ever as close to death. i was fortunate to see Scott Abel in the elevator at the show (i didn't know him but recognised him from musclemag). i told him what i did and i bet if the trainer that advised me was there Scott would have knocked him out. he was pissed at the advise i was given. he brought me to his hotel room and gave me something to counteract what was happenning. i don't know what he gave me but i was feeling better in a half hour. 


Scott may have saved my life. pottasium controls heart function and an overdose of it is one of the surest ways to kill yourself.

[Stavios]

the most dangerous thing i ever did for a contest was at the 1999 Canada cup. i wanted to stay away from diuretics so a local trainer talked me into cutting sodium and loading pottasium citrate. in theory it should draw all subcutaneous water into the muscle. the trainer miscalculated my pottasium by 250% and i don't think i was ever as close to death. i was fortunate to see Scott Abel in the elevator at the show (i didn't know him but recognised him from musclemag). i told him what i did and i bet if the trainer that advised me was there Scott would have knocked him out. he was pissed at the advise i was given. he brought me to his hotel room and gave me something to counteract what was happenning. i don't know what he gave me but i was feeling better in a half hour. 


Scott may have saved my life. pottasium controls heart function and an overdose of it is one of the surest ways to kill yourself.

Wow that's some crazy shit right there !!    
didn't know loading with pottasium was dangerous 

[hazbin]

Wow that's some crazy shit right there !!    
didn't know loading with pottasium was dangerous 

the scary thing is your body reacts the same way to low and high pottasium. in the real world too high pottasium is extremely rare, so medics always guess you are too low so they administer more. this almost happened to a pro a few years back but Milos intervened and schooled the medic  on the situation, preventing a very bad scene.

also, the kidneys can be pushed over the edge when they are already working overtime to process all the other chemicals in the system. then the water is drained and the concentration of drugs is multiplied many times as there is no water to dilute and flush the kidneys.

[Stavios]

isn't it what killed Momo Benaziza too ?

I heard he was deshydrating on apple, I don't see how it killed him 

maybe Disgusted can speak on this

[Disgusted]

isn't it what killed Momo Benaziza too ?

I heard he was deshydrating on apple, I don't see how it killed him 

maybe Disgusted can speak on this

I remember the night he died. I was at the Nationals in Fla with my wife I think 1992? I was in the hotel lobby the day after the show and overheard talk about him dying. I also heard the apples story and as far as I know it's true. I also heard that he was taking huge amounts of clen. There is no way of knowing whether he was hypo or hyper kalemic, but I can tell you that the end was not pretty.

[Van_Bilderass]

I remember the night he died. I was at the Nationals in Fla with my wife I think 1992? I was in the hotel lobby the day after the show and overheard talk about him dying. I also heard the apples story and as far as I know it's true. I also heard that he was taking huge amounts of clen. There is no way of knowing whether he was hypo or hyper kalemic, but I can tell you that the end was not pretty.

I remember the article about it in MMI. He was supposedly on Nubain too. He had seen a doctor a few hours before he died who just told him to drink some tomato juice. Dr Mauro DiPasquale thought that the Nubain could have masked the symptoms of severe dehydration so he didn't get a proper diagnosis.

[Van_Bilderass]

I heard he was deshydrating on apple, I don't see how it killed him 

What do you mean by 'dehydrating on apple'? Supposedly he was using fruit as his only source of water for 3 days or whatever it was.

[Camel Jockey]

Can you get ready for a show by drinking beer?