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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2008, 11:56:52 AM »
So will someone elbowing you in the head. So what.

Shouldn't be used as an excuse to try to explain a loss of a fighter the way the Pride fanboys do.

And let's keep in mind here, if goes both ways - what's to say soccer kicks or whatever allowed in Pride wouldn't benefit the UFC fighters if THEY were allowed to use it as well?

Bottom line is, a fighter at Wanderleis level must be able to finish a fight, under different types of rules. Otherwise he ain't much of a MIXED martial artist. And to point out shit like "he wasn't allowed to use soccer kicks" is a poor excuse from a crybaby.


If that fight was a no barred fight, Wandi would have destroyed Chuck.

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2008, 12:15:12 PM »
If that fight was a no barred fight, Wandi would have destroyed Chuck.
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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2008, 12:31:28 PM »
::)

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Apparently you have never seen Wandi fight with no rules.

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2008, 02:38:44 PM »
Wanderlei has lost three times in a row. The old Wanderlei is gone. Just as the old Mark Kerr is.
You need to get over it and move on!   :-\
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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2008, 03:47:08 PM »
sorry about saying mirko does soccer kicks must of been thinking about wandy and shogun.

mirko has no excuse for losing in the ufc because he still could kick.

but if wandy and shogun could use all there arsenal which include stomps, knees and soccer kicks they would win most matches.

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2008, 05:01:05 PM »
sorry about saying mirko does soccer kicks must of been thinking about wandy and shogun.

mirko has no excuse for losing in the ufc because he still could kick.

but if wandy and shogun could use all there arsenal which include stomps, knees and soccer kicks they would win most matches.

I agree.

Check this out!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8179154958433733084&q=wanderlei+silva&total=494&start=20&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2008, 07:12:22 PM »
Give Cro Cop to Lesnar!!!!!!!
UFC isn't happy with him, feed him to Lesnar.
He's a big name on the downfall without ground skills......Lesnar will take him down and fuck him up.

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2008, 04:31:06 AM »
Apparently you have never seen Wandi fight with no rules.

i know he is a bad ass mother fucker who fought bear knuckle from a very young age, but u make it sound like chuck wouldn't stand a chance

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2008, 05:32:16 AM »
i know he is a bad ass mother fucker who fought bear knuckle from a very young age, but u make it sound like chuck wouldn't stand a chance

He wouldn't.

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2008, 07:01:33 AM »
Apparently you have never seen Wandi fight with no rules.

no and neither have you.

bare knuckle does not = 'no rules'

hope this helps.

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2008, 07:19:52 AM »
An article at European sports service www.sportal.hr has come in contact with Mirko Cro Cop's camp. Apparently the Croatian striker was "surprised" and not aware of Dana White's deadline of Monday Feb. 4th; the latest Mirko could notify UFC president Dana White of whether or not he planned to retire. He also stated that he is ready to face anyone, including current interim champion Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira.
Mirko Cro Cop Filipovic is currently coming off of two disappointing losses. A vicious knockout to Gabriel Gonzaga at UFC 70 and a decision loss to Cheick Kongo at UFC 75. He is regarded by many as one of the top strikers in all of Mixed Martial Arts.
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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2008, 12:02:18 PM »
no and neither have you.

bare knuckle does not = 'no rules'

hope this helps.

You know nothing about MMA.

Hope that helps. ::)

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2008, 09:47:26 PM »
i know nothing about MMA.

Hope that helps. ::)

fixed.

present evidence of a fight that you have seen where wandi fought 'no rules' or walk away. ;)

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« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2008, 06:42:26 AM »
fixed.

present evidence of a fight that you have seen where wandi fought 'no rules' or walk away. ;)

Ok dipshit, let me explain some things to you.

First, the definition of NHB, "No Holds Barred."

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What is NHB?

No Holds Barred fighting is exactly that - once in the ring, anything goes. In its true form, NHB has no weight classes, no rounds, and no time limits. NHB has been called everything from "brutal" to "inhumane" and has been likened to a modern version of gladiator fights and human cockfighting.


Now, lets take a look at the reviews on Wanderlei's Dvd.

Wanderlei Silva’s Greatest Hits …Kicks and Knees to the Face! review

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Wanderlei Silva has cemented his legacy in Mixed Martial Arts by demolishing and violently destroying opponents in UFC and Pride.
But what you haven't seen of "The Axe Murderer" may shock you!
If you thought his vicious knockouts in Pride were brutal, wait until you a load of "vale tudo" (anything goes)! Wanderlei takes no prisoners, with a brutal assault of knees, elbows, headbutts and relentless kicks, as he attempts to massacre the opposition.
From his historic battle with Artur Mariano, to his destruction of three Ultimate Fighting Championship fighters, see how and where he earned the name "Axe Murderer".
Digitally re-mastered footage with "never-before-seen" fights and clips featuring the most sadistic fighter on earth!

The extra footage is the commercial done with Mark the Hammer Coleman. There’s also training footage, done at the Chute Box Academy, Wanderlei boxing ‘ninja’ with Shogun making a brief cameo. If you have International Vale Tudo 2: Birth of an Axe Murder, take notice all three of his fights from that event are on this DVD. (Three from eight..) Given the fights are from different low profile events… the visual takes a hit. Sometimes there’s announcers, however within those ‘sometimes’ the announcers are speaking Portuguese.
I thought one of the biggest downfalls of this DVD was, time. Let’s just say… it’s a hard transition. In my personal experience, going from the spectacle of PRIDE and the Quality of the UFC to watching this may be one of the hardest difficulties. However the gritty gorilla filming may give you another prospective. With the ‘No holds Barred’ barenuckle, action combined with the ambience of the lower production you might find yourself loving this DVD and adding depth to this current title holder and superstar. We’ll say, an ‘understanding’ of the rough life instead of the iconic life it may seem to be now.

You’ll see the fight that earned him the title “Axe Murderer.” While all the bouts on this DVD give in to Wanderlei’s brutality and style of fighting, some fights give preview showings of Wanderlei’s opponents past fights. All content adding to the depth and history of Wanderlei giving shades of color and dimension on his current overall reign in MMA. Silva’s savage fist throwing and sprawl are present from the beginning of his career, apparently.
As for the fights, what can I say? I don’t think there was any vast changes in his style, or execution since his first fight up until now, so if you’ve seen wanderlei you know what you’re getting, eight fights starring him in his young career. (I don’t mean there has been no changes with Wanderlei and how he’s evolved; however by knowing today’s Silva you know the premise of the younger Silva.) If you don’t know wanderlei Silva, know this, very aggressive standup less-than-likely suspect ground game, great sprawl, and the only person to hold the Pride Light heavyweight title.

Here is a video of some of those NHB fights.



Also, just to show you how dangerous NHB matches are, here is a video of a fighter who gets killed in a NHB match.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1193574140296314666

Now, "beast 8692" please don't show your ignorance in the MMA forum again.



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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2008, 07:40:15 AM »
He wouldn't.

well, it doesn't matter, they fought and chuck beat the shit out of him for three rounds, even wandie himself said after the fight he didn't expect chuck to hit that hard...fyi them fighting on the street will never happen, so get out of ur fucking fantasy world and try to get ur head out between his ass cheeks, chuck beat him, they probably will never fight again

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« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2008, 07:41:29 AM »
If that fight was a no barred fight, Wandi would have destroyed Chuck.

too bad it wasn't...its also like saying if sivla would have been able to take juice like in pride he would have killed him ;D

i hope this helps also

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2008, 07:58:52 AM »
Is everyone forgetting the UFC is not about who the best fighter is?

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2008, 08:00:58 AM »
well, it doesn't matter, they fought and chuck beat the shit out of him for three rounds, even wandie himself said after the fight he didn't expect chuck to hit that hard...fyi them fighting on the street will never happen, so get out of ur fucking fantasy world and try to get ur head out between his ass cheeks, chuck beat him, they probably will never fight again

hope this helps

Who said anything about them fighting in the street, jackass. ::)

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2008, 08:03:32 AM »
too bad it wasn't...its also like saying if sivla would have been able to take juice like in pride he would have killed him ;D

i hope this helps also

Well that's also like saying if Wandi was taking as much GH as Chuck he would have won. How old are you 12? ::)

Get the fuck outta here

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2008, 08:06:40 AM »
i know he is a bad ass mother fucker who fought bear knuckle from a very young age, but u make it sound like chuck wouldn't stand a chance

Mark kerr you make no sense wandi almost got koed with gloves on!
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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2008, 08:39:35 AM »
Mark kerr you make no sense wandi almost got koed with gloves on!

Well genius, so did Chuck. ::)

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2008, 08:47:26 AM »
 This is getting too confusing. The way I see it if the UFC adopted WWEs rules, Lesnar would be unbeatable. ;) I am sure some UFC fighters would make better linebackers than others as well, so what? They fought under UFC rules and Wandy was gracious about his loss, if he didn't make excuses......
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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2008, 08:58:00 AM »
Ok dipshit, let me explain some things to you.

First, the definition of NHB, "No Holds Barred."
 

Now, lets take a look at the reviews on Wanderlei's Dvd.

Wanderlei Silva’s Greatest Hits …Kicks and Knees to the Face! review

Code: [Select]
Wanderlei Silva has cemented his legacy in Mixed Martial Arts by demolishing and violently destroying opponents in UFC and Pride.
But what you haven't seen of "The Axe Murderer" may shock you!
If you thought his vicious knockouts in Pride were brutal, wait until you a load of "vale tudo" (anything goes)! Wanderlei takes no prisoners, with a brutal assault of knees, elbows, headbutts and relentless kicks, as he attempts to massacre the opposition.
From his historic battle with Artur Mariano, to his destruction of three Ultimate Fighting Championship fighters, see how and where he earned the name "Axe Murderer".
Digitally re-mastered footage with "never-before-seen" fights and clips featuring the most sadistic fighter on earth!

The extra footage is the commercial done with Mark the Hammer Coleman. There’s also training footage, done at the Chute Box Academy, Wanderlei boxing ‘ninja’ with Shogun making a brief cameo. If you have International Vale Tudo 2: Birth of an Axe Murder, take notice all three of his fights from that event are on this DVD. (Three from eight..) Given the fights are from different low profile events… the visual takes a hit. Sometimes there’s announcers, however within those ‘sometimes’ the announcers are speaking Portuguese.
I thought one of the biggest downfalls of this DVD was, time. Let’s just say… it’s a hard transition. In my personal experience, going from the spectacle of PRIDE and the Quality of the UFC to watching this may be one of the hardest difficulties. However the gritty gorilla filming may give you another prospective. With the ‘No holds Barred’ barenuckle, action combined with the ambience of the lower production you might find yourself loving this DVD and adding depth to this current title holder and superstar. We’ll say, an ‘understanding’ of the rough life instead of the iconic life it may seem to be now.

You’ll see the fight that earned him the title “Axe Murderer.” While all the bouts on this DVD give in to Wanderlei’s brutality and style of fighting, some fights give preview showings of Wanderlei’s opponents past fights. All content adding to the depth and history of Wanderlei giving shades of color and dimension on his current overall reign in MMA. Silva’s savage fist throwing and sprawl are present from the beginning of his career, apparently.
As for the fights, what can I say? I don’t think there was any vast changes in his style, or execution since his first fight up until now, so if you’ve seen wanderlei you know what you’re getting, eight fights starring him in his young career. (I don’t mean there has been no changes with Wanderlei and how he’s evolved; however by knowing today’s Silva you know the premise of the younger Silva.) If you don’t know wanderlei Silva, know this, very aggressive standup less-than-likely suspect ground game, great sprawl, and the only person to hold the Pride Light heavyweight title.

Here is a video of some of those NHB fights.



Also, just to show you how dangerous NHB matches are, here is a video of a fighter who gets killed in a NHB match.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1193574140296314666

Now, "beast 8692" please don't show your ignorance in the MMA forum again.




 ;D

that's your evidence of 'no rules'??

lol...

ok, this is what i do see: a ref (ref's are in the ring to apply rules which implies that rules are present).

 here's what i don't see: groin strikes/grapple, biting, strikes to the back of the head, eye gouge...

why? because there ARE rules in vale tudo dumbass. ::)

please don't show your ignorance on an mma forum again. :-X

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Re: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th!
« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2008, 09:29:36 AM »
;D

that's your evidence of 'no rules'??

lol...

ok, this is what i do see: a ref (ref's are in the ring to apply rules which implies that rules are present).

 here's what i don't see: groin strikes/grapple, biting, strikes to the back of the head, eye gouge...

why? because there ARE rules in vale tudo dumbass. ::)

please don't show your ignorance on an mma forum again. :-X

Hahahaha

Dude, just stfu.

The ref is there to stop the fight, if the fighter gives up, so I guess that is a rule. ::)

I have never seen anyone try win an debate with proof right in front of them. It's ok, you must be illiterate. ;)

Ok, tell us about the rules of this fight, were Mark Kerr keeps sticking his thumb in this guys cut right below his eye and rips the cut open even more.

There are no rules.



 


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« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2008, 09:44:19 AM »
Hahahaha

Dude, just stfu.

The ref is there to stop the fight, if the fighter gives up, so I guess that is a rule. ::)

I have never seen anyone try win an debate with proof right in front of them. It's ok, you must be illiterate. ;)

Ok, tell us about the rules of this fight, were Mark Kerr keeps sticking his thumb in this guys cut right below his eye and rips the cut open even more.

There are no rules.



 



so you agree on at least one rule (ref) but you are still, in the same post, saying there are 'no rules'.  ;D could you be any more ignorant?

i'll let you in on a little secret, if there were, in fact, no rules, kerr could have won that fight very quickly by gouging the opponent's eyes out or biting on his cartoid, ripped his nutsack off...there are many things kerr could have done more efficiently IF, as you admantly state, there were actually 'NO RULES'. ;)