Made in Montana ........first of all, I must say you are huge asset here and a beautiful woman to boot. I have been a huge Steeve Reeves fan practically my whole life .The fact that you are related to the man and contribute here is a thrill for me. I have researched alot about Mr .Reeves and his training with varying outcomes .[would it be possible to pm you for you to clarify some things for me ?] I do believe when Mr.Reeves competed that he never used drugs. I have seen a few pics later on when he was in Europe when he 230 lbs where it looked like he might have dabled in some anabolics . But maybe not ? I know he was way into health.
As far as Serge goes .If he told you he never used drugs then he is lying period. He even talks about using drugs in the 3 more reps Book that he was featured in. Also he lived with a couple of top bbers that I know in the very early 80s and he discussed /used gear around them .Serge had a beautiful physique ,looks great at 70 , and clearly never abused anabolics .But if he sayes he never used gear then he is a lair period. The size he obtained can be gained drug free ,but not the muscularity that went with it.9especially late 70s early 80s] And yes , he was bigger when younger .He was also training heavier , not as lean , and that was when he was reported to have been expirimenting with d-bol . He is still a great champian , a credit to himself , the sport ,and the boards.
I just think alot of the old timers lie their asses off when it comes to drugs. Think about it .The 60s and 70s where a time of trying new things. The guys I knew ,said it was not uncommon for some guys to take a bottle of dbol and anavar a day .[something that would never be done today ] Ask a Pete Grymkowski or Don Ross or Paul Grant[oh yeah you can't ...those two are dead ] if I am lying ? If you think a guy like Don Howorth was worried about taking 15 mgs of dbol a day ,when he later went on to do hard time for involvement in hard drugs ? Side effects weren't even that well known. Drugs where cheap ,easy to get , and bbers have always had the more is better mentality. Do really think these guys were scared of some little pills.I remember a friend telling me how much the whole Denis Tinerino natural thing was .He said he was the one always pushing the envelope and trying new things. My understanding was drugs were taken by the handfuls several times a day. It wasn't until Weider figured that drugs were competition to his supplement business that the anti drug movement was really pushed . There was little knowledge of side effects , no real legal ramifications ,they were cheap , and all they knew that taking them made them bigger and stronger .You are telling me that all the serious guys like Serge weren't using big time. I find that hard to believe. Most guys under ate ,over trained , and took too much speed. Otherwise we would have some huge guys back then. The gene pool in the 60s and 70s seemed better for some reason .[better than the 80s minus Haney ] As the anti drug stance got pushed more and more. The older guys seemed to say they took less and less ,as well refused to talk about what really went on ........
I would say the guy mentioned in this thread is clean .Maybe lifetime or just used lightly in the past. There are plenty of guys that can be pretty lean with hard consistant training weighing between 190 and 240 if standing between 5'9 and 6'2 .........8% is very lean, but it is world's apart from say the 5% you see on most stages.......to be a true 6% ,I would say very few would break 225 and be clean lifetime or off for many years......I agree with alot of what GH15 tends to say ....but on this issue we would have to agree to disagree just abit.......over 200 lean can be done clean at 6% but not without genes on your side and very good training /diet....
