Is Obama really the canidate for change?

[Bindare_Dundat]

Democrat Barack Obama said Wednesday that as president he would spend $210 billion to create jobs in construction and environmental industries

Obama’s National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank Will Cost $60 Billion Over Ten Years

Obama’s Energy Plan Will Cost $150 Billion

Obama’s Tax Plan Will Cost Approximately $85 Billion A Year;

Obama Will Increase Our Foreign Assistance Funding By $25 Billion.

Obama Will Provide $2 Billion To Aid Iraqi Refugees.

Obama, "I thought our priority had to be finishing the fight in Afghanistan"
           "The United States must be willing to strike al Qaeda targets inside Pakistan"
           "...if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda"-website
           "Iran a threat to all of us."

[War-Horse]

LOL...Prepare for bennyboy meltdown.

[Bindare_Dundat]

.

[JOHN MATRIX]

the choice is 71 year old neocon, 60 year old lifetime politician/washington aristocrat crusty cocky hag, or a 46 year old black dude OBAMA RULES

[War-Horse]

Democrat Barack Obama said Wednesday that as president he would spend $210 billion to create jobs in construction and environmental industries

Obama’s National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank Will Cost $60 Billion Over Ten Years

Obama’s Energy Plan Will Cost $150 Billion

Obama’s Tax Plan Will Cost Approximately $85 Billion A Year;

Obama Will Increase Our Foreign Assistance Funding By $25 Billion.

Obama Will Provide $2 Billion To Aid Iraqi Refugees.

Obama, "I thought our priority had to be finishing the fight in Afghanistan"
           "The United States must be willing to strike al Qaeda targets inside Pakistan"
           "...if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda"-website
           "Iran a threat to all of us."

Well he just lost my vote.

[War-Horse]

the choice is 71 year old neocon, 60 year old lifetime politician/washington aristocrat crusty cocky hag, or a 46 year old black dude OBAMA RULES

In this case, Nobody is better than Somebody..

[Bindare_Dundat]

If Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) could enact all of his campaign proposals, it would cost $874.35 Billion in new spending !

[JOHN MATRIX]

If Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) could enact all of his campaign proposals, it would cost $874.35 Billion in new spending !

thats how much we are spending in every week in iraq

[Bindare_Dundat]

thats how much we are spending in every week in iraq

Summary of Iraq War Cost Estimates
CBO estimated the following costs for an Iraq war:

Initial deployment of troops: $9 billion to $13 billion
Conducting the war: $6 billion to $9 billion per month
Returning forces to US: $5 billion to $7 billion
Temporary occupation of Iraq: $1 billion to $4 billion per month

[JOHN MATRIX]

its all just monopoly money anyway

[Bindare_Dundat]

I know Obama supporters mean well, but if you wanted a real canidate for change you should have voted for Ron Paul.

You can still March To Washington this spring/summer.  

[Benny B]

Yes.

Next! 

Democrat Barack Obama said Wednesday that as president he would spend $210 billion to create jobs in construction and environmental industries

Obama’s National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank Will Cost $60 Billion Over Ten Years

Obama’s Energy Plan Will Cost $150 Billion

Obama’s Tax Plan Will Cost Approximately $85 Billion A Year;

Obama Will Increase Our Foreign Assistance Funding By $25 Billion.

Obama Will Provide $2 Billion To Aid Iraqi Refugees.

Obama, "I thought our priority had to be finishing the fight in Afghanistan"
           "The United States must be willing to strike al Qaeda targets inside Pakistan"
           "...if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda"-website
           "Iran a threat to all of us."

I love it! Freedom comes with a price tag. 

Obama by a landslide, baby!

[Bindare_Dundat]

Yes.

Next!  :DI love it! Freedom comes with a price tag. 

I know, we have to carry around dead weight, like you. 

[calmus]

its all just monopoly money anyway

   Haha, Bindarey is engaging in fuzzy math again.  yesterday, he posted some crap about a bill obama was sponsoring.  So I read the bill and none of the claims Mr. Bindarey made are true.  Didn't stop him from posting it though.................. ....Because Mr. Bindarey just cuts and pastes without doing any research on his own.  

[Bindare_Dundat]

 Haha, Bindarey is engaging in fuzzy math again.  yesterday, he posted some crap about a bill obama was sponsoring.  So I read the bill and none of the claims Mr. Bindarey made are true.  Didn't stop him from posting it though.................. ....Because Mr. Bindarey just cuts and pastes without doing any research on his own.  

 You provide shit on these boards. 

You even read Obamas plan or do I have to post that up for you too?

[Bindare_Dundat]

http://origin.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf

pages 15,25,51,53,42

[calmus]

Obama’s Energy Plan Will Cost $150 Billion

Since you've actually gone to the trouble of reading it, I will respond. For starters, Clean Energy 150 bill/10 years = 15 billion/yr

FOreign assistance funding increase is calculated over the next seven years. 25 bill/7 years = 3.4 bill/yr

And the tax plan will not "cost" us.  It will just make douchebags like Halliburton pay their fair share.  Bush gave them plenty in tax cuts. It's time to recoup that.

And the jobs and infrastructure spending (again dispersed over years) is not a "cost." It's a necessity in many parts of the US.

Try again, fuzzy math boy.

Iraq/Afghanistan costs us well in excess of 100 bill/yr right now.  This is not factoring in costs such as heath care for veterans and other spending which is expected to send the total cost of the war into the low trillions. 

If you read the plan, he has promised a drawdown beginning immediately, thus reducing our costs, and exposure. 

[calmus]

150/10 = 15, not 10. My bad.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Since you've actually gone to the trouble of reading it, I will respond. For starters, Clean Energy 150 bill/10 years = 15 billion/yr

FOreign assistance funding increase is calculated over the next seven years. 25 bill/7 years = 3.4 bill/yr

And the tax plan will not "cost" us.  It will just make douchebags like Halliburton pay their fair share.  Bush gave them plenty in tax cuts. It's time to recoup that.

And the jobs and infrastructure spending (again dispersed over years) is not a "cost." It's a necessity in many parts of the US.

Try again, fuzzy math boy.

Iraq/Afghanistan costs us well in excess of 100 bill/yr right now.  This is not factoring in costs such as heath care for veterans and other spending which is expected to send the total cost of the war into the low trillions. 

If you read the plan, he has promised a drawdown beginning immediately, thus reducing our costs, and exposure. 

Keep dreaming.

I don't hate the man, I just think he wants to spend too much and I think he won't do anything drastic about withdrawing troops from Iraq. When I listen to him I feel like he gives himself too much room to put a spin on an outcome that might not be favorable later on.

[Bindare_Dundat]

If you read the plan, he has promised a drawdown beginning immediately, thus reducing our costs, and exposure. 

Go to the top post and read the bottom.

[calmus]

Go to the top post and read the bottom.

Only a child would think that we can just leave Iraq at the drop of a hat............which is one of the reasons why I find Ron Paul and his followers so goddamn irritating.  Have you ever heard the saying, "You've made your bed, and now you must lie in it"? Well, Bush made this bed for us.  And no matter what idiots like Ron Paul say, we can't just fucking leave that country in the state it's been reduced to.  Someone's got to do the responsible thing and try and fix the mess as best we can, and your little bitch with his head buried in the sand/nineteenth century is sure as hell not going to.  If hell froze over, and your idiot got elected, the Middle East would really fall apart, and the next thing you know we're living in "Children of Men."

I swear to God, I'm going to stop and piss on the next Ron Paul sign I see.  Idiots. Wasting our fucking time.

MELTDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bindare_Dundat]

Wow, sometimes I wonder if you're capable of civilised exchange of thought. There's defiantly something not right with you in the head. I really think you suffer from some bipolarism, seriously.

[calmus]

Wow, sometimes I wonder if you're capable of civilised exchange of thought. There's defiantly something not right with you in the head. I really think you suffer from some bipolarism, seriously.

It's "definitely" not "defiantly".  Defiantly means to do something in defiance.


No, I don't want to have a civilized exchange with people who actually think you can leave a powder keg unattended. 

This is not the nineteenth century.  We can't be isolationist.

What happens half-way around the world affects us. Ask your parents about the last time there was an oil crisis. 

And if you think that increased violence/instability in the Middle East won't have repercussions here in a New York minute, you're fucking insane. 

When called on his "immediate withdrawal" comments, your idiot said he would implement a withdrawal plan.  How that differs from Obama, I don't know.  Why don't you tell us?

[JOHN MATRIX]

OBAMA once ordered a Whopper at Mcdonalds. and got one

[Camel Jockey]

This man should be elected Prime Minister of England, and together with Obama, they'd be the coolest world leaders ever.