Increased gun control in the future? 2nd amendment repeal?

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Then all of you non-NYCers should shut the fuck up about 9/11; we were the ones who actually knew people and experienced it. My mother was almost killed.

lots of weird things out there about 911.

You don't think that anyone who didn't live in NYC should have an opinion on it?

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lots of weird things out there about 911.

You don't think that anyone who didn't live in NYC should have an opinion on it?

Sure you can have an opinion and I think 9/11 was/is mad fishy...I guess it is a bit personal. My mother was riding the line to work at exactly the time the towers fell. Plus, growing up you see the twin towers every day and then...just a bit more personal that's all....I went to school right near them.

[tonymctones]

Sure you can have an opinion and I think 9/11 was/is mad fishy...I guess it is a bit personal. My mother was riding the line to work at exactly the time the towers fell. Plus, growing up you see the twin towers every day and then...just a bit more personal that's all....I went to school right near them.

ahhh but those are all arbitrary right so who cares

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ahhh but those are all arbitrary right so who cares

No...your argument is a non-sequitur.

After the fact that was I was arbitrarily born in NYC my mother almost lost her life and I was upset by that. That is a disconnect argument and makes no sense. The only facts that matter were A) my mother was almost killed and B) I was upset by it...

[tonymctones]

No...your argument is a non-sequitur.

After the fact that was I was arbitrarily born in NYC my mother almost lost her life and I was upset by that. That is a disconnect argument and makes no sense. The only facts that matter were A) my mother was almost killed and B) I was upset by it...

it was meant to be, and much like your arguement before

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it was meant to be, and much like your arguement before

Hardly; I repeat be proud not of what men before you have done but only of your own deeds as an individual.

[tonymctones]

Hardly; I repeat be proud not of what men before you have done but only of your own deeds as an individual.

I repeat pride in ones country serves a valuable purpose, what do you do in s. korea trap?

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I repeat pride in ones country serves a valuable purpose, what do you do in s. korea trap?

Sure, it's useful but utility is not a valid argument for me when it lacks truth content. Same goes for religion.

What do I do? I ask myself that everyday at work...I teach kids. Just temporary saving up for further education.

[tonymctones]

Sure, it's useful but utility is not a valid argument for me when it lacks truth content. Same goes for religion.

What do I do? I ask myself that everyday at work...I teach kids. Just temporary saving up for further education.

are you saying that b/c nations are as you state artificial constructs? why go to s. korea to teach?

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are you saying that b/c nations are as you state artificial constructs? why go to s. korea to teach?

Yes.

S.Korea is every insiders' dirty little secret. Do some research and you will see why I am here.

[headhuntersix]

I like s. Korea...its  dirty but its cheap..the people are friendly, much friendlier then Japan...

[Deicide]

I like s. Korea...its  dirty but its cheap..the people are friendly, much friendlier then Japan...

To put it briefly to everyone that asks; S.Korea is a bank. Period.

[tonymctones]

To put it briefly to everyone that asks; S.Korea is a bank. Period.

lol cool

[Dos Equis]

Pathetic...

The USA wouldn't be the USA without NYC. You think Honolulu is more diverse than NYC? Are you smoking crack?!

Do you smoke too much weed or something? Been living in Jebus land too long?







Pathetic...if you can't see the difference.....

Are YOU on crack?  Been a paranoid anti-religious extremist for too long?   Let's deal with the "facts":

Diversity
From the year 2000, Honolulu had the following racial makeup
46 percent Asian
21 percent white
19 percent mixed race (two or more--often more)
8 percent Pacific Islander
2 percent black
1 percent "other races"
.25 percent Native American
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_and_County_of_Honolulu#Demographics

The mayor of Honolulu is a Samoan Mormon.
The City Council consists of a white female as chair, and other members are named Apo, Cachola, Dela Cruz, Djou, Garcia, Kobayashi, Okino, and Tam.
The City attorney is Carrie Okinaga (Japanese female).
The City prosecutor is Peter Carlisle.  Okay, he's a white male.   

Our Governor is a Jewish female.
Lt. Gov. is Hawaiian.
Senate president is Asian female.
House leader is Asian male.
Hawaii Supreme Court consists of Korean (Chief Justice), Jewish male, Japanese female, and white male.    All of these folks are in Honolulu.

The business community is just as diverse.  The food is just as diverse. 

How does NYC compare? 

Environment
As I type this, the weather in Honolulu is 79 degrees.  It's 38 degrees in NYC.  Where would most people rather be? 
No smog in this city.  How about NYC?
We have more than the most beautiful beaches in the world, we have mountains, snow (on the Big Island), hiking, etc.  NYC, on the other hand, is cement city. 

Crime
“Honolulu finished at or near the bottom of the 20 largest U.S. cities in terms of the number of reported incidents of violent and property crime in 2006, according to statistics released yesterday by the FBI.

Honolulu ranked 20th in the nation in the number of violent crimes and 16th in property crime, according to the FBI. New York City reported the most crimes of any city in the United States last year, according to the report.”  http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Sep/25/ln/hawaii709250344.html

I guess this explains why NYC had a "street crimes unit."  Never heard of any such thing in Honolulu.

Arts/Culture
Obviously, NYC has Broadway and is the probably the center of the arts in this country.  But Honolulu has pretty much everything NYC has on a much smaller scale.  All of the shows come here.  We have the opera (pretty gay), the symphony, concerts, cultural centers, etc.

The People
We have what's called the "Aloha Spirit" here.  People get along.  It's very nice.  We also have what's called "ohana" (family).  People take care of each other.  Contrast that to the often rude New Yorker mentality.  I remember seeing a documentary about how people die in NYC because drivers refuse to pull over for ambulances.     That said, I like New Yorkers because they're often brutally honest.  Many of them have a hard time here though, because that type of attitude does not play well in Hawaii. 

I could look up the quality of life and longevity, which is probably far superior in Honolulu, but I'm about done for now. 

[headhuntersix]

Its funny, we have an upcoming exercise...half of us are going to FT Drum, NY and half are going to Honolulu....I,ve never seen grown men whine more about going anywhere, then those headed to Drum. I'm growing to Drum myself and am a 1 man show so it was a forgone conclusion. I think heading to the Islands would be a hell of alot better.

[benchmstr]

gun ban=bench moving to another country.

bench

[Dos Equis]

Its funny, we have an upcoming exercise...half of us are going to FT Drum, NY and half are going to Honolulu....I,ve never seen grown men whine more about going anywhere, then those headed to Drum. I'm growing to Drum myself and am a 1 man show so it was a forgone conclusion. I think heading to the Islands would be a hell of alot better.

I'd be crying too.    When I was in, Drum was considered arguably the worst duty station in the Army next to Fort Polk.  Is it still that way? 

[benchmstr]

I'd be crying too.    When I was in, Drum was considered arguably the worst duty station in the Army next to Fort Polk.  Is it still that way? 

i have worked with guys that have told me that,the worst place i have ever been is the shitty side of ****.

i will tell you after i go to my extended de-briefing.

bench

[Dos Equis]

i have worked with guys that have told me that,the worst place i have ever been is the shitty side of ****.

i will tell you after i go to my extended de-briefing.

bench

I think it was known as the "arm pit" of the Army.  Can't remember that was Drum or Polk? 

[Deicide]

Are YOU on crack?  Been a paranoid anti-religious extremist for too long?   Let's deal with the "facts":

Diversity
From the year 2000, Honolulu had the following racial makeup
46 percent Asian
21 percent white
19 percent mixed race (two or more--often more)
8 percent Pacific Islander
2 percent black
1 percent "other races"
.25 percent Native American
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_and_County_of_Honolulu#Demographics

The mayor of Honolulu is a Samoan Mormon.
The City Council consists of a white female as chair, and other members are named Apo, Cachola, Dela Cruz, Djou, Garcia, Kobayashi, Okino, and Tam.
The City attorney is Carrie Okinaga (Japanese female).
The City prosecutor is Peter Carlisle.  Okay, he's a white male.   

Our Governor is a Jewish female.
Lt. Gov. is Hawaiian.
Senate president is Asian female.
House leader is Asian male.
Hawaii Supreme Court consists of Korean (Chief Justice), Jewish male, Japanese female, and white male.    All of these folks are in Honolulu.

The business community is just as diverse.  The food is just as diverse. 

How does NYC compare? 

Environment
As I type this, the weather in Honolulu is 79 degrees.  It's 38 degrees in NYC.  Where would most people rather be? 
No smog in this city.  How about NYC?
We have more than the most beautiful beaches in the world, we have mountains, snow (on the Big Island), hiking, etc.  NYC, on the other hand, is cement city. 

Crime
“Honolulu finished at or near the bottom of the 20 largest U.S. cities in terms of the number of reported incidents of violent and property crime in 2006, according to statistics released yesterday by the FBI.

Honolulu ranked 20th in the nation in the number of violent crimes and 16th in property crime, according to the FBI. New York City reported the most crimes of any city in the United States last year, according to the report.”  http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Sep/25/ln/hawaii709250344.html

I guess this explains why NYC had a "street crimes unit."  Never heard of any such thing in Honolulu.

Arts/Culture
Obviously, NYC has Broadway and is the probably the center of the arts in this country.  But Honolulu has pretty much everything NYC has on a much smaller scale.  All of the shows come here.  We have the opera (pretty gay), the symphony, concerts, cultural centers, etc.

The People
We have what's called the "Aloha Spirit" here.  People get along.  It's very nice.  We also have what's called "ohana" (family).  People take care of each other.  Contrast that to the often rude New Yorker mentality.  I remember seeing a documentary about how people die in NYC because drivers refuse to pull over for ambulances.     That said, I like New Yorkers because they're often brutally honest.  Many of them have a hard time here though, because that type of attitude does not play well in Hawaii. 

I could look up the quality of life and longevity, which is probably far superior in Honolulu, but I'm about done for now. 

New York City has the largest population in the country;

Look at this chart...there are more murders in Omaha Nebraska than NYC....based on population NYC has over 8,000,000 people NYC has some of the least crime...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

I will grant you that Honolulu is at the bottom of the chart; so what? It is a fucking dead volcano floating in the ocean. All this praise for beaches, sun and sand. There ARE people who like the four seasons? Ever seen a New England autumn?

Which is city is objectively more important? You think Honolulu is more important in the world than NYC? Get real...I know other people like you who think wasting away on a beach on some tropical island is a dream come true but believe me there are many more interesting landscapes and places like that in the world.

[Dos Equis]

New York City has the largest population in the country;

Look at this chart...there are more murders in Omaha Nebraska than NYC....based on population NYC has over 8,000,000 people NYC has some of the least crime...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

I will grant you that Honolulu is at the bottom of the chart; so what? It is a fucking dead volcano floating in the ocean. All this praise for beaches, sun and sand. There ARE people who like the four seasons? Ever seen a New England autumn?

Which is city is objectively more important? You think Honolulu is more important in the world than NYC? Get real...I know other people like you who think wasting away on a beach on some tropical island is a dream come true but believe me there are many more interesting landscapes and places like that in the world.

So are you slinking away from your contention that NYC is more diverse than Honolulu? 

I just laid out facts regarding diversity, the environment, crime, arts, culture, the people, etc.  Your response is that NYC has some of the "least crime"?  Are you high?  NYC was one of the most dangerous spots in the country before Rudy cleaned it up.  Honolulu has never had a violent crime problem, despite being one of the largest cities in the U.S. 

So where are your facts about NYC's diversity, environment, the people?

I don't really expect you to answer.  You're a broken record. 
 
The statement I initially responded to was which city is the greatest city in the country.  I understand why you want to change the subject and ask which is more "important."  The answer is D.C., which isn't a city, but it's clearly the most "important" spot in the country. 

Regarding an "importance" comparison between Honolulu and NYC, depends on what you're talking about.  If it's certain aspects of money, then obviously NYC.  If it's quality of life it's Honolulu. 

[Deicide]

So are you slinking away from your contention that NYC is more diverse than Honolulu? 

I just laid out facts regarding diversity, the environment, crime, arts, culture, the people, etc.  Your response is that NYC has some of the "least crime"?  Are you high?  NYC was one of the most dangerous spots in the country before Rudy cleaned it up.  Honolulu has never had a violent crime problem, despite being one of the largest cities in the U.S. 

So where are your facts about NY C's diversity, environment, the people?

I don't really expect you to answer.  You're a broken record. 
 
The statement I initially responded to was which city is the greatest city in the country.  I understand why you want to change the subject and ask which is more "important."  The answer is D.C., which isn't a city, but it's clearly the most "important" spot in the country. 

Regarding an "importance" comparison between Honolulu and NYC, depends on what you're talking about.  If it's certain aspects of money, then obviously NYC.  If it's quality of life it's Honolulu. 

Money makes the world go round my bible thumping acquaintance...

[headhuntersix]

FT Drum is pretty horrible....not enough housing so folks commute from Syracuse. It sucks. Watertown is a depressed area. I always found it funny...the Army has been there since the 80's in a large capacity and the town just plain sucks. Polk has no major town near it at all. I think u have to drive 45 min or so. But it has arguably the best gym in the Army. Its called the Bayou Classic...great gym.

[Deicide]

FT Drum is pretty horrible....not enough housing so folks commute from Syracuse. It sucks. Watertown is a depressed area. I always found it funny...the Army has been there since the 80's in a large capacity and the town just plain sucks. Polk has no major town near it at all. I think u have to drive 45 min or so. But it has arguably the best gym in the Army. Its called the Bayou Classic...great gym.

Headhunter...we NYCers generally don't consider the rest of the state...

NYC is the state...and the rest is trailer trash...

[Dos Equis]

Money makes the world go round my bible thumping acquaintance...

Thank you for sharing, you paranoid anti-religious extremist.