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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #175 on: February 21, 2008, 03:43:25 AM »
Hey ND, why are you trying so hard to convince people that yates back is better? Does it bother you that much? If it does, then you really need to stop taking this "best back" so seriously. Most people and the Flex issue think Ronnie has the best back of all-time and some people think yates has the best back of all-time. It doesn't bother me or others if some people think yates back is better than Ronnie's. You need to give this thing a rest. You and Hulkster have probably aged 5 years over the 1 year course since this Truce thread has started with all of the bychting back and forth. Debating back and forth is fine, but it looks like you take all of this shyt as a threat. Just my thought.

By the way. Why isn't yates flexing his left lat in that first pic? Please don't say he is, because he is clearly not.

ND is a very sad insecure man. the fact that Ronnie was rightfully placed ahead of dorian causes him to lose sleep at night LOL

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #176 on: February 21, 2008, 04:52:20 AM »
ND is a very sad insecure man. the fact that Ronnie was rightfully placed ahead of dorian causes him to lose sleep at night LOL



hey hulkster, if you took away all the posts of you pointing out how crazy ND was or how great ronnie was how many posts do you think you'd have?
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #177 on: February 21, 2008, 04:55:28 AM »
hey hulkster, if you took away all the posts of you pointing out how crazy ND was or how great ronnie was how many posts do you think you'd have?

Zero ???
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #179 on: February 21, 2008, 09:23:32 AM »
Ronnie Coleman : DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.


Samir Bannout who had one of the best backs mind you on Cutler 2001

Jay Cutler blows the other bodybuilders away with the crisp detail of his muscularity from top to bottom. He has superior calves, hamstrings and glutes. His back is detailed and big, but it does not match up well against Ronnie, who has the second-best back in the history of bodybuilding behind the great Dorian Yates

Ronnie has the second best back behind the great Dorian Yates



Ellington Darden, Ph.D. " best back - Dorian Yates "


FROM MARKUS RUHL

October 2000, FLEX page 166


"DORIAN YATES HAD THE BEST BACK IN THE HISTORY OF BODYBUILDING.  HIS LAT SPREAD WAS UNBELIEVABLE.  HIS SIZE, MASS, AND CONDITIONING WERE PERFECT,"


Team Flex 1999 : Best Back - Dorian Yates



All of these quotes are POST retirement for Yates , now Flex says Ronnie is number one again what makes them right now but wrong before?

freakiest backs he's ever seen!!!! he obviously cant turn around and see his own  :P

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #180 on: February 21, 2008, 09:44:06 AM »
This shot is incredible  :o

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #181 on: February 21, 2008, 10:03:40 AM »

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #182 on: February 21, 2008, 10:05:32 AM »
This shot is incredible  :o



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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #183 on: February 21, 2008, 10:08:55 AM »
monster "calves-bigger-than-quads"
hahahahaha same thing with forearms n' upper arms. :o

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #184 on: February 21, 2008, 10:26:10 AM »
I know b/c I have a better understanding of anatomy than you or Peter McGough, no offense to the guy. Conditioning and definition are directly correlated. As a person drops subcutaneous fat and water, the distance between the skin and muscles decreases revealing more separations and striations. There's no medical reason why definition would cease to improve after a certain point while that person continues to drop more fat and water.

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Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007 p. 207

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived."

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007 p. 212

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Dorian Yates – PBW Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

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I know b/c I have a better understanding of anatomy than you or Peter McGough, no offense to the guy. Conditioning and definition are directly correlated. As a person drops subcutaneous fat and water, the distance between the skin and muscles decreases revealing more separations and striations. There's no medical reason why definition would cease to improve after a certain point while that person continues to drop more fat and water.

I can always count on you for a good laugh , you're the same idiot who though balance & proportion were the same thing , so much for what you know about anatomy  ;) and listen you're attempting to ascertain one's level of conditioning bases on pictures ONLY despite never seeing the two in person I mean you're a complete moron if you think you know more than McGough of Yates who is an IFBB judge I mean seriously kid , oh and don't forget striations are genetic hence why some guys have more than others just like vascularity again you ONLY know what they thought you and thats not much



All of those quotes have been addressed many times over they don't refute my claims Yates is drier & denser nor do they refute Yates had better balance & proportion and a lot of them are in reference to his competition that particular year more of the same nonsense from you

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #185 on: February 21, 2008, 10:28:55 AM »
Hey ND, why are you trying so hard to convince people that yates back is better? Does it bother you that much? If it does, then you really need to stop taking this "best back" so seriously. Most people and the Flex issue think Ronnie has the best back of all-time and some people think yates has the best back of all-time. It doesn't bother me or others if some people think yates back is better than Ronnie's. You need to give this thing a rest. You and Hulkster have probably aged 5 years over the 1 year course since this Truce thread has started with all of the bychting back and forth. Debating back and forth is fine, but it looks like you take all of this shyt as a threat. Just my thought.

By the way. Why isn't yates flexing his left lat in that first pic? Please don't say he is, because he is clearly not.

What do you think these boards are for? its for dumb shit like this believe me there are very few things I take seriously in life and this isn't one of them , when I have Hulkster , Pumpster and Neo type meltdowns then you might be on to something but man have these guys gone over the edge lol


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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #186 on: February 21, 2008, 10:30:49 AM »
ND is a very sad insecure man. the fact that Ronnie was rightfully placed ahead of dorian causes him to lose sleep at night LOL



Again when you see me melting down like you and Neo and Pumpster then you have something to work with and look at the lengths you guys have gone to bash Dorian Yates , I always said Ronnie Coleman has great respect for Dorian and vice versa , its to bad his fan-boys don't

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #187 on: February 21, 2008, 10:32:53 AM »
meh



Soft , soft and more soft especially compared to Dorian and his own earlier versions

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #188 on: February 21, 2008, 10:38:46 AM »
Some people prefer yates conditioned/crisp flat look and most people prefer Ronnie's deep seperated/thick 3D look.






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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #189 on: February 21, 2008, 10:42:18 AM »
Some people prefer yates conditioned/crisp flat look and most people prefer Ronnie's deep seperated/thick 3D look.


fanciful scale on those pics and Yates' back is everything Ronnies is and then some

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #190 on: February 21, 2008, 10:45:17 AM »
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #191 on: February 21, 2008, 11:00:33 AM »
The difference in condition here is staggering. Coleman looks soft like a marshmellow compared to Yates.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #192 on: February 21, 2008, 11:18:27 AM »
Let make this easy on everyone.


1 - Ronnie has the thickest back

2 - Ronnie has the widest back

3 - Ronnie's left side has always been noticeably smaller then his right

4 - Dorian and Stubbs have the best combos of thickness, width and completeness

5 - Dorian and Stubbs should be ranked higher then Ronnie because if Ronnie had two left sides he might not be in the top 5 but if he had two rights he would be easily be number 1 but Dorian and Stubbs have seemingly PERFECT symmetry from left to right.
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #193 on: February 21, 2008, 11:24:35 AM »
Flex making this list and not Cormier is a total joke ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #194 on: February 21, 2008, 11:26:09 AM »
Stubbs back does not compare to Yates or Coleman when you look at it from all angles. He only compares in the fully relaxed pose. When he goes to hit a double biceps his back looks rather medicore, although wide and thick. It just doesn't have a good look to it.
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #195 on: February 21, 2008, 11:34:35 AM »
And a few more incase I have yet to convince the morons out there ;D
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #196 on: February 21, 2008, 11:35:18 AM »
I can always count on you for a good laugh , you're the same idiot who though balance & proportion were the same thing , so much for what you know about anatomy

balance and proportion are synonymous, you idiot. Just look in a dictionary. I swear you are so f*cking stupid at times.

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and listen you're attempting to ascertain one's level of conditioning bases on pictures ONLY despite never seeing the two in person I mean you're a complete moron if you think you know more than McGough of Yates who is an IFBB judge I mean seriously kid , oh and don't forget striations are genetic hence why some guys have more than others just like vascularity again you ONLY know what they thought you and thats not much

pics are a reliable means of ascertaining one's conditioning. I agree that bodybuilders look more impressive in person, but that applies to almost every competitor - not just Dorian. So it's safe to assume that Ronnie would look equally more impressive in person than in pics. Also, Peter McGough never explicitly said Dorian had better conditioning than 01 ASC Ronnie. He simply said that nobody has ever matched Dorian's dryness and hardness. This actually contradicts what he said earlier about 98 Ronnie.

Peter McGough – unknown

“When Mr. Coleman showed up at the New York event in October, Mr. McGough says he immediately noticed the difference. “He was really much harder,” he says. “He retained his size, but he had the density and granite hardness."

seeing as how he referred to both Dorian and Ronnie as being made of "granite," I don't see how Dorian could be harder unless he was talking about certain types of granite. Now let's look at other quotes regarding Ronnie's superb conditioning at the 01 ASC.

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

Sean Toh – http://creditplushealth.org/sport%20celebrities/Ronnie%20Coleman.htm

“At the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic, Ronnie won the show and his performance at the time was hailed by many to be his best ever showing. He was 245 pounds at the contest, in extremely tight form, and dense as stone.”

one guy hails Ronnie's conditioning as the greatest ever while another compares his density to stone. So unless Dorian was made of diamond, I doubt he had better conditioning than 01 ASC Ronnie.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #197 on: February 21, 2008, 11:39:18 AM »
ND, I'm waiting for you to respond to this post. ;)

stop avoiding the issue and tell me what you think Ronnie meant by his interview response. There are only 2 logical interpretations - either he would beat Dorian or Dorian would beat him. Which is it? Let's see how good your reading comprehension is.

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #198 on: February 21, 2008, 11:43:21 AM »
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #199 on: February 21, 2008, 11:44:34 AM »
ND, I'm waiting for you to respond to this post. ;)



Well nobody else is so take your dumbass comments to the truce thread and keep them there.
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