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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #200 on: February 21, 2008, 11:47:50 AM »
Well nobody else is so take your dumbass comments to the truce thread and keep them there.

what exactly was "dumbass" about my comment?

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #201 on: February 21, 2008, 11:48:33 AM »
Dorian's left vastus medialis looks like it's not even covered by skin in this shot  :o unreal conditioning! (which ron never had). Never mind the fact that Yates' back thickness in this shot is only matched by Ronnie in 2003 weighing 30lbs more.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #202 on: February 21, 2008, 11:50:47 AM »
Stubbs back does not compare to Yates or Coleman when you look at it from all angles. He only compares in the fully relaxed pose. When he goes to hit a double biceps his back looks rather medicore, although wide and thick. It just doesn't have a good look to it.

I agree with that. If you go and look at any of his competition pics his back
is not nearly as impressive as when he's just standing relaxed.
I think alot of it has to do with his height and lack of extreme seperation.
He has a great back but a little overated in my opinion.
I'll post some pics and a youtube video (where he was in very good shape as an example).
This is Ironman lighting also which is some of the best. He looks awesome but not on Yates
or Ronnie's level.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #203 on: February 21, 2008, 11:51:42 AM »
The difference in condition here is staggering. Coleman looks soft like a marshmellow compared to Yates.



And the difference in width, deep seperation and thickness of Ronnie's back murders yates. All yates has is better conditioning.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #204 on: February 21, 2008, 11:52:41 AM »
Yates' back is nothing compared to Coleman's. Coleman had pretty much the best everything - but calves - of all time. Yates is fortunate to get second. I have seen Nasser's back beat his at the O. Also Yates is disgusting to look at, his backacne makes me feel sick

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #205 on: February 21, 2008, 11:53:12 AM »
fanciful scale on those pics and Yates' back is everything Ronnies is and then some

Sure it is.  ;D

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #206 on: February 21, 2008, 11:54:03 AM »
I agree with that. If you go and look at any of his competition pics his back
is not nearly as impressive as when he's just standing relaxed.
I think alot of it has to do with his height and lack of extreme seperation.
He has a great back but a little overated in my opinion.
I'll post some pics and a youtube video (where he was in very good shape as an example).
This is Ironman lighting also which is some of the best. He looks awesome but not on Yates
or Ronnie's level.


Damn, Stubbs back looks rather mediocre in those shots  :-\ Based on those pics I'd say he is well overrated at 3rd. Flex should have been higher. Possibly the most detailed back of all time.
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #207 on: February 21, 2008, 11:55:07 AM »
NastySissy Diety is a fool and gets owned so much its painful to watch.

this comment really made me laugh out loud. ;D

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #208 on: February 21, 2008, 11:56:36 AM »
Yates' back is nothing compared to Coleman's. Coleman had pretty much the best everything - but calves - of all time. Yates is fortunate to get second. I have seen Nasser's back beat his at the O. Also Yates is disgusting to look at, his backacne makes me feel sick

NastySissy Diety is a fool and gets owned so much its painful to watch.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #209 on: February 21, 2008, 12:05:10 PM »
Here is 3rd place overall IMHO...but only the 1983 version.
Any other version I wouldn't put third.
I place him over Haney because Samir had so much more detail
in his back than Haney did.
Samir's back looks full, thick and detailed from any angle.

1. Almost a perfect bdb shot.
2. Lots of detail.
3. Not even Coleman or Yates lats showed so much in the front DB shot.
4. Even in a side shot you can see the thickness and low insertions of the lat muscles.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #210 on: February 21, 2008, 12:07:58 PM »


1. Almost a perfect bdb shot.
2. Lots of detail.
3. Not even Coleman or Yates lats showed so much in the front DB shot.
4. Even in a side shot you can see the thickness and low insertions of the lat muscles.

Based on those criteria there you used for Samir, I don't see how you have Coleman in front of Yates. Yates' back is more detailed than Coleman and his lats are thicker and insert far lower.
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #211 on: February 21, 2008, 12:12:49 PM »
Damn, Stubbs back looks rather mediocre in those shots  :-\ Based on those pics I'd say he is well overrated at 3rd. Flex should have been higher. Possibly the most detailed back of all time.


You must be on crystal meth ::) ::) ::)


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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #212 on: February 21, 2008, 12:15:30 PM »
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #213 on: February 21, 2008, 12:17:05 PM »
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OK do you have any other shots that aren't heavily shadowed pics from the 93 Ironman or 93 Olympia........ Right didn't think so.
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #214 on: February 21, 2008, 12:17:14 PM »
Here is 3rd place overall IMHO...but only the 1983 version.
Any other version I wouldn't put third.
I place him over Haney because Samir had so much more detail
in his back than Haney did.
Samir's back looks full, thick and detailed from any angle.

here are more pics of Samir's back in case you haven't seen them.






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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #215 on: February 21, 2008, 12:21:06 PM »
I thought Flex went bald back in 96  :o

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #216 on: February 21, 2008, 12:24:19 PM »

OK do you have any other shots that aren't heavily shadowed pics from the 93 Ironman or 93 Olympia........ Right didn't think so.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #217 on: February 21, 2008, 12:25:32 PM »
here are more pics of Samir's back in case you haven't seen them.







I havn't seen all of them. Those are awesome shots.
He was also awesome in 1982 which some of those shots
could be from? He just had that extra fullness in 1983 that
made him look his best. Those shots are just as good or better than the ones I posted though.
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #218 on: February 21, 2008, 12:46:39 PM »
Based on those criteria there you used for Samir, I don't see how you have Coleman in front of Yates. Yates' back is more detailed than Coleman and his lats are thicker and insert far lower.

There are things I like about both of their backs and I think it is close.
What pushes me over the edge for Coleman is the smaller waist and hips
that gives him an overall look from the back that Yates doesn't have.
Yates looks to me like a shredded powerlifter/bodybuilder whereas Coleman
from the back looks to me like a pure bodybuilders physique, although he still
looks powerful. This screenshots probably explains better what I'm talking about
than what I just wrote. (I also understand in this shot that Yates is probably standing
further away than Kevin to the camera.) We'd honestly have to see them side by side at their bests
to know for sure.   

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #219 on: February 21, 2008, 12:51:04 PM »



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA and you think he should be higher, Cormier wasn't even on the list and dominates him from the back even in detail. Flex has small traps and no lower back or width.




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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #220 on: February 21, 2008, 12:54:40 PM »

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA and you think he should be higher, Cormier wasn't even on the list and dominates him from the back even in detail. Flex has small traps and no lower back or width.






Remove Cormier's nuts from your mouth for a second. First off, you are posting pictures when Flex was at his worst, the year after he broke his neck. Secondly, even at Cormier's all time best in 1999, an off flex still defeated him  ;) Flex is a 4 time ASC, 5 time Ironman winner. Cormier does not compare really in any regard. Cormier will simply be remembered as the guy that "could have."

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #221 on: February 21, 2008, 01:02:24 PM »
Remove Cormier's nuts from your mouth for a second. First off, you are posting pictures when Flex was at his worst, the year after he broke his neck. Secondly, even at Cormier's all time best in 1999, an off flex still defeated him  ;) Flex is a 4 time ASC, 5 time Ironman winner. Cormier does not compare really in any regard. Cormier will simply be remembered as the guy that "could have."




First off the only pics I know of with them side by side are the ones I have posted

Second Flex was always overrated, he is a 1990's version of Dexter Jackson except Dexter has to compete against much bigger competetion. Oh and lets not forget his blatant and obvious synthol and esciline use.

Third this is about backs is it not, and by the looks of it Cormier destroys him from the back


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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #222 on: February 21, 2008, 01:33:25 PM »
Chris = Real Deal! One of the best backs should be top 5!
just push some weight!

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #223 on: February 21, 2008, 01:41:27 PM »
Chris = Real Deal! One of the best backs should be top 5!

Uh thats ronnies back.

Anyway, i think its undeniable that despite his many flaws, cormier has the finest thigh rods ever to be displayed on stage

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #224 on: February 21, 2008, 02:03:33 PM »
Uh thats ronnies back.

Anyway, i think its undeniable that despite his many flaws, cormier has the finest thigh rods ever to be displayed on stage


I hope you mean personal flaws because structurally he had none, although many beat him body part for body part practically no one can beat him overall.

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