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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #275 on: February 21, 2008, 06:24:58 PM »
Ronnie 1995 vs Ronnie 1999.

like I said, trying to compare Ronnie's 95/6 back that he competed against dorian with and his 99 back is just stupid:

this should stop the idiot nuthuggers from ever saying bullshit like the difference was 'negliable" again.. ::)



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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #276 on: February 21, 2008, 06:28:54 PM »
His back was awesome in 1996

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #277 on: February 21, 2008, 06:31:31 PM »
His back was awesome in 1996

but it became way better by 1999.
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #278 on: February 21, 2008, 06:32:17 PM »
Ronnie 1995 vs Ronnie 1999.

like I said, trying to compare Ronnie's 95/6 back that he competed against dorian with and his 99 back is just stupid:

this should stop the idiot nuthuggers from ever saying bullshit like the difference was 'negliable" again.. ::)





Who said anything about 1995? lmfao making shit up again? and his detail was awesome in 1995 BTW he was only lacking in width & thickness relative to later years but he was a lot lighter so 1996/1997 his back was very comparable with 1998/2001 99 he was thicker and a tad wider but thats moot because Yates wrote the book on thickness and density and width and detail , etc

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #279 on: February 21, 2008, 06:33:58 PM »
I disagree , again you're forced to guess what he would say or might have said , lets focus on what he did say!

sorry kiddo, but there's no guesswork involved. Ronnie clearly says he would beat Dorian. You even agreed. ;)

Thats been address eons ago , he eludes that he would win

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #280 on: February 21, 2008, 06:36:05 PM »
but it became way better by 1999.

Way better is an overstatement , no it didn't become ' way better ' it was a tad wider and a tad thicker now you'd be working with something if you said it became a LOT bigger from 1996 to 2003 but even then it wasn't better .

these are from 1997 no joke 255 pounds

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #281 on: February 21, 2008, 06:38:54 PM »
sorry kiddo, but there's no guesswork involved. Ronnie clearly says he would beat Dorian. You even agreed. ;)


neo you've been reduced to reading between the lines and playing with words , I never agreed thats another outright lie of yours and he doesn't clearly say he would beat Dorian another lie , this is clear cute Neo

Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?

Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.


Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?


Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.  Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block.  He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.  He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.


This my dim witted little friend is definitive and clear cut , this is as good as it gets .

Neo again lets stick to the topic at hand.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #282 on: February 21, 2008, 06:40:18 PM »
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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #283 on: February 21, 2008, 06:41:17 PM »
1996 ( I believe ) and 2001 ASC and his back improved my ass !

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #284 on: February 21, 2008, 06:41:27 PM »
Bullshit. He would be soft if he had significant bodyfat, so your claim is flat out wrong. You do know that McGough refered to both bodyfat and water levels, but of course you won't admit it because otherwise it would be admitting that you were wrong about McGough never claiming that Dorian's condiitoning was never matched. You are a bold faced liar, and you know it.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #285 on: February 21, 2008, 06:45:45 PM »
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lmfao when owned Neo cracks out the bull shit ' comparisons ' since when did Dorian at Ronnie have comparable waist sizes and calf size? LMFAO

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #286 on: February 21, 2008, 06:48:32 PM »
I love how the Dorian nuthuggers blindly accept the words of a journalist over medical doctors and ignore visual evidence. I suppose if Peter McGough said his diarrhea smelled like roses but you had to be there to smell it, ND and co. would all believe him. ::)

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #287 on: February 21, 2008, 06:49:16 PM »
::)





Different quality pictures , different results the pictures you posted prove NOTHING as usual this is why you're an idiot , you're trying to ascertain one level of conditioning on a magazine scan and then telling the people who there live and in person they're wrong .

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #288 on: February 21, 2008, 06:50:41 PM »
lmfao when owned Neo cracks out the bull shit ' comparisons ' since when did Dorian at Ronnie have comparable waist sizes and calf size? LMFAO

I was comparing their conditioning, you dumbass. Since when does scaling hide separations and striations?

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #289 on: February 21, 2008, 06:52:22 PM »
1996 ( I believe ) and 2001 ASC and his back improved my ass !

The other poster was right, like pubes you're blind he's clearly more cut in the other pic you idiot lol

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #290 on: February 21, 2008, 06:53:01 PM »
I love how the Dorian nuthuggers blindly accept the words of a journalist over medical doctors and ignore visual evidence. I suppose if Peter McGough said his diarrhea smelled like roses but you had to be there to smell it, ND and co. would all believe him. ::)

lmfao what medical doctor claimed Dorian was never hard or drier than Ronnie? are you know claiming you're an MD? what happened to the " Certified Personal Trainer " gig?

it has to do with experience Neo , Peter McGough has been involved with professional bodybuilding years and years before you were even born , he's see Ronnie at his best and worse same with Yates his opinion is as good as it gets for you to claim you're right despite never once seeing a single pro contest live & in person and he is wrong is the epitome of stupidity and I laugh at you and your ignorance .

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #291 on: February 21, 2008, 06:53:44 PM »
Different quality pictures , different results the pictures you posted prove NOTHING as usual this is why you're an idiot , you're trying to ascertain one level of conditioning on a magazine scan and then telling the people who there live and in person they're wrong.

excuses excuses. I used high resolution pics of Dorian. So don't complain. Here's the full-size version of the 2nd pic of Dorian. Wow, look at all those separations and striations!!! ::)


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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #292 on: February 21, 2008, 06:53:55 PM »
The other poster was right, like pubes you're blind he's clearly more cut in the other pic you idiot lol

for once in your life you're right , he's more cut in 1996 !

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #293 on: February 21, 2008, 06:54:11 PM »
One of the ugliest biceps shots in BB history.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #294 on: February 21, 2008, 06:56:26 PM »
excuses excuses. I used high resolution pics of Dorian. So don't complain.

Its not excuse and it has nothing to do with resolution it has to do with the quality of the pictures and as you can see there is a clear discrepancy between the two , you can see Dorian's definition a lot clearer in the pic I posted compared to the scan which is exactly why pictures will never replace actually being there .

again the sad part if you actually believe your comparisons .

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #295 on: February 21, 2008, 06:57:32 PM »
lmfao what medical doctor claimed Dorian was never hard or drier than Ronnie? are you know claiming you're an MD? what happened to the " Certified Personal Trainer " gig?

read any anatomy and physiology book.

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #296 on: February 21, 2008, 06:58:34 PM »
I was comparing their conditioning, you dumbass. Since when does scaling hide separations and striations?

Again you choose selected pics of Yates to ' prove ' your point and FYI Neo striations are genetic and again the sad part is you actually believe this lol

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #297 on: February 21, 2008, 07:02:12 PM »


  So by posting pictures you're trying to convince me that McGough is wrong? Good, because that means you agree with me that McGough was referring both to bodyfat and water levels in his quote. ;)

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #298 on: February 21, 2008, 07:03:53 PM »
read any anatomy and physiology book.

I have a copy of Gray's Anatomy  ;) and a TON of magazine and bodybuilding books that all cover physiology

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Re: Flex Magazine: 20 Best Backs of All Time-- a bone to pick
« Reply #299 on: February 21, 2008, 07:09:30 PM »
I have a copy of Gray's Anatomy  ;) and a TON of magazine and bodybuilding books that all cover physiology

Now read them. :-\