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Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« on: February 19, 2008, 08:02:54 PM »
Holy Hell.      Just heard his speech in Texas.     

 He made Mccain and hillary look like rotting corpses we need to step over!!!

I dont think they have a chance. 8)

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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2008, 05:53:00 AM »

obama by landslide in Nov. 08.

I guess; all florid speech and no substance..we need Ron Paul
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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2008, 06:30:07 AM »
TBH, Obama's dream matchup is a a guy like McCain. He won't even have to play the age card. It's a given.

McCain won't be able to play the experience card either, because that will only remind everyone that Obama is much younger. :-\

McCain could beat Hillary.

But he does not stand a chance against Barrack Obama.


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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2008, 06:40:15 AM »
I guess u forget Gary Hart in 1984...all bullshit and no substance. His BS may start to wear thin before we even get to the convention. This guy has nothing...no executable plan....no experience....its all smoke and mirrors. His speech in Huston was laughable....how does he plan to pay for that. That speech was a list of all the stuff voters want to hear...yet don't have to think how it will be paid for.
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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2008, 07:44:00 AM »
I guess u forget Gary Hart in 1984...all bullshit and no substance. His BS may start to wear thin before we even get to the convention. This guy has nothing...no executable plan....no experience....its all smoke and mirrors. His speech in Huston was laughable....how does he plan to pay for that. That speech was a list of all the stuff voters want to hear...yet don't have to think how it will be paid for.

Gary Hart went up against Ronald Reagan, who was rhetorically brilliant.

Reagan was a tough opponent. That was the big deal back then.

Just like when Nixon got beat by JFK, nothing wrong with Nixon really, and IMO a better president in many ways than JFK, but he lost because JFK was brilliant and looked like a movie star. Not because he lacked the political platform.

You're constantly claiming that Obama has nothing, that he's just smoke screen.

I have to agree that Obama has a lot of questions to answer.

But I also think it is important to acknowledge that Obama is ridiculously strong as a speaker. Otherwise he would never get away with what many of us consider "thin" speeches.

You start to look like a broken record, and I can respect that you don't want Obama to win.

But here's a question: Why do you think he's being so successful, whooping Hillary's ass and all?
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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2008, 07:52:32 AM »
And u guys are all sounding the same on Obama. I think the guy has no plan...yes he sounds great..ok well Hope isn't a method. Hil is loosing because she and Obama aren't any different. What can she point to...a thin record. Otherwise they both believe the same thing.

They are both liberal democrats. She has plans, but they don't brief as well as "hope and change ", to the masses...and her campaign has not be quick enough to change messages. Her attacks have been lame.

U said it urself....he has questions to answer....it will be up to McCain to make him answer those questions....he willl have to make Obama sound like an ultra Lib. He doesn't need to say Liberal...he doesn't need to attack Obama's record...he needs to attack his plans and beliefs...which as this country is mostly center based...may not buy all that he says. Obama makes some people feel good..no doubt, but he lacks substance. It will be far easier to show the differences between Obama and McCain then with Hil and Obama....It will be up to McCain to do it. I'm not thrilled with him. 
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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2008, 08:00:08 AM »



You start to look like a broken record, and I can respect that you don't want Obama to win.



Hahahaha, HH6 is a broken record that can't spell or use paragraphs.

It's a good thing we're not going to allow neanderthals like HH6 to hold us back.

we're tired of incompetent people who got where they are because they are the son of a senator, son of a president, wife of a president, son/grandson of an admiral, married to wealth.

We're tired of people who've played the Washington game and gotten us to where we are.

We're tired of stone-age throwbacks running around saying "he has no plan" because of some racist hang-ups.

We want the future.  We want someone who got where he is on his own merits. 

We want something different.

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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2008, 08:13:04 AM »
We want smoke and mirrors

we want bullshit promises and to be treated like children..we need a hug from Uncle Sam

we want to call people who disagree with us names because we can't articulate any arguments we didn't read off of the Lib play book...

anybody who doesn't like Obama is racist even though I can't tell u one plan of his beyond "hope and Change"

Hope ain't a method idiot


I'm also working so if I miss a word here or there I'm sorry. Whats ur degree in?
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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2008, 09:15:45 AM »
The bottom line is this...

4/5 of america is very unhappy with Bush.

McCain promises to be Bush part 2 - his policies are damn near mirrored.

When you run on a platform that 80% of America hates, you can indeed be beaten by a metrosexual with a smile and a positive attitude.
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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2008, 09:37:39 AM »
Can't disagree..but we can't afford his plans either. Once he's in..now what. I guess the first thing will be to raise taxes...then he'll see he can't pull out of Iraq....then he'll have to deal with the economic crisis...which will cost us all money..much more if spending was cut. He's not cutting anything so we're all going to take it in the ass.
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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2008, 09:40:15 AM »
I guess; all florid speech and no substance..we need Ron Paul
I think Obama does have substance.  Ron Paul has substance but some of his ideas are really out of touch.

Politicians can have the best ideas in the world but an inability to communicate those concepts to the people will really hurt.

Obama is not a perfect politician but he is talented.

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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2008, 09:40:58 AM »
Can't disagree..but we can't afford his plans either. Once he's in..now what. I guess the first thing will be to raise taxes...then he'll see he can't pull out of Iraq....then he'll have to deal with the economic crisis...which will cost us all money..much more if spending was cut. He's not cutting anything so we're all going to take it in the ass.
So in other words, Obama will have to clean up the mess left behind by Bush and the Republicans.

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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2008, 09:48:31 AM »
Regardless....but he's not going to shrink government...he wants universal healthcare...plus programs to avoid "disease care"...he will raise taxes. Some of u don't mind...but I'd like one of these guys to say they are going to start slashing programs because we just can't afford some of the things we are doing. We can't afford universal healthcare unless alot of other reforms are made. I don't like the idea because despite what the libs believe...it will be a disaster.

They passed a law in Britain that made ER wait times shorter....ur ass hits the seat and the clock starts ticking....since there are not enough government doctors..they just couldn't comply. So to get around the law...they have people waiting in Ambulances. I don't want that. We have a problem here with folks waiting in ER's because of all the aliens who abuse the system. Then they gouge the insured to make up for the illiegals. Stop that crap and maybe we can reform the system.
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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2008, 10:07:38 AM »
I don't know why everyone still gets hung up over who is going to be elected or not.  Doesn't matter, really.  Universal Healthcare will not happen anytime soon.  We will still maintain a heavy presence in the Middle East.  Immigration will not be fixed.  We will continue to be in a Service Economy dependent on borrowing money from China.  We will not fix our monetary system as the Dollar will continue to decline.  The prison population will continue to rise, both in numbers and percentages.  The faux War on Terror will continue.  Corporate, Identity, and various National lobbying groups will continue to heavily influence and dictate the policies for the US.  Our industrial and manufactoring capacity will be even more gutted as we continue to be outsourced.  Public Education is downright laughable, if it weren't so sad.  Multiculturalism and diversity, for the sole intention of multiculturalism and diversity, will further be implemented in every public and private institution.  Group politics and populism have replaced the rugged individualist American spirit. 

These are things that won't be fixed regardless who pays lip service to the fact that they will.  These things are now a part of our culture...people are simply now accepting that that is they way things go.  Instead of outrage, many just shrug and try to live beside it.


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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2008, 10:35:56 AM »
Regardless....but he's not going to shrink government...he wants universal healthcare...plus programs to avoid "disease care"...he will raise taxes. Some of u don't mind...but I'd like one of these guys to say they are going to start slashing programs because we just can't afford some of the things we are doing. We can't afford universal healthcare unless alot of other reforms are made. I don't like the idea because despite what the libs believe...it will be a disaster.

They passed a law in Britain that made ER wait times shorter....ur ass hits the seat and the clock starts ticking....since there are not enough government doctors..they just couldn't comply. So to get around the law...they have people waiting in Ambulances. I don't want that. We have a problem here with folks waiting in ER's because of all the aliens who abuse the system. Then they gouge the insured to make up for the illiegals. Stop that crap and maybe we can reform the system.
Who was the last president to shrink government?

You don't think McCain will slash programs.

To shrink gov., either we cut the entitlements or the military.  Which one do you want to cut?

Which is the most bloated?  That's easy, the military...especially with the Iraq outlays. 

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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2008, 01:14:48 PM »
we're tired of incompetent people who got where they are because they are the son of a senator, son of a president, wife of a president, son/grandson of an admiral, married to wealth.

We're tired of people who've played the Washington game and gotten us to where we are.

We're tired of stone-age throwbacks running around saying "he has no plan" because of some racist hang-ups.

We want the future.  We want someone who got where he is on his own merits. 

We want something different.
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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2008, 01:19:30 PM »
Can't disagree..but we can't afford his plans either. Once he's in..now what. I guess the first thing will be to raise taxes...then he'll see he can't pull out of Iraq....then he'll have to deal with the economic crisis...which will cost us all money..much more if spending was cut. He's not cutting anything so we're all going to take it in the ass.
its funny how you guys keep harping on how 'we cant afford his plans' yet seem to have no problems thrwoing away trillions of billions of dollars as well as thousands of lives fighting pointless wars in the middle east.

OBAMA might propose spending alot, but it will all be for positive, progressive things which actually help american people. McCain will spend as JUST AS MUCH or more, but spend it on expanding our middle east quagmire/vietnam-part-2, not on american interests.

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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2008, 01:52:29 PM »
I'd rather spend money to defend this country then give it away to the economic black holes which have had everthing and the kitchen sink thrown at them and not been fixed. The war is being run on a tiny military...imagine what we'd be able to do with 20 Div's. Whats exactly bloated....maybe some programs but not the size.
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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2008, 02:00:49 PM »
our presence in the middle east isnt 'defending our country', its expanding our enemies tenfold. it is a disgrace to use the efforts and lives of thousands of our troops for something that accomplishes nothing for america.

if we really wanted to end the hatred for america over there, all we have to do is stop supporting israel. simple as that

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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2008, 02:04:10 PM »
We could give everybody a hug...that usually helps.
How about this bill.....Barack Obama bill, the Global Poverty Act (S. 2344. It commits the U.S. to spending $845 billion to eradicate poverty in the rest of the world. We could shitcan this bill and save alot of cash.
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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2008, 02:26:24 PM »
Obama doesn't have to run.  McCain will defeat himself screaming more war more war.

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Re: Obama puts a nail in the coffin of McCain.
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2008, 02:29:16 PM »
He is a bit nuts ;D
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