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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2008, 05:27:40 AM »
his ethnic background will prevent him from being president.  We'll have to see how this plays out, but we still have race issues in this country.

Independents are ignoring his ethnic background and choosing him in the primaries.
Democrats are choosing him over Hilary 2 to 1 in the last ten primaries.  (33% margin of victory)

They're ignoring his ethnic background so far.


I think a person with military experience is better suited to be Commander in Chief than someone who has never served. 

Why did you vote for Clinton over Bush 1 and Dole?

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2008, 05:59:20 AM »
There's a good chance, either him or hillary and the crying game.  Unless McCain stops looking like a toad.
I watched that debate.  All I could do was cringe as Obama continued on all night with his "ideology".  We're in DEEP DOO DOO if this man becomes president.    :(

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2008, 06:06:05 AM »
The other thing this illustrates his how naive to the militray and its workings his campaign is.

Throw in Economy, Polity, and Society as well. The guy will be worse than Bush.
Total lack of knowledge, and his wife lacks self respect for America "I'm finally proud of what America has become"


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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2008, 06:17:01 AM »
I watched that debate.  All I could do was cringe as Obama continued on all night with his "ideology".  We're in DEEP DOO DOO if this man becomes president.    :(

mccain admits he knows jack shit about the economy.

so we're fuct either way.

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2008, 06:30:51 AM »
mccain admits he knows jack shit about the economy.

so we're fuct either way.

His words? If so is that not a good thing? He will have the best advisors the House can staff. Question, that is a plus suppose you don't know about something, are you not going to ask for the best help possible?

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2008, 07:15:03 AM »
mccain admits he knows jack shit about the economy.

so we're fuct either way.
An intelligent cabinet (perhaps Ron Paul overseeing the dinero?) remedies that situation.  Not exactly rocket science.

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2008, 07:25:02 AM »
I'd like to once again thank calmus for calling me ignorant. Can u lefties do anything more then call people names....I have yet to see u post one argument for Obama beyond his own bs message of hope and change.  This thread was about what Obama said. Ur in the minority if u thought that people think he ment 5-6 years agao. It was not presented like that at all. Further, since ur attacking me continually, what exactly are ur credentials. Education level/job experience etc. If u don't want to tell us, fine but don't attack mine.
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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2008, 07:48:24 AM »
Can u lefties do anything more then call people names

kinda poor etiquette to call someone out for calling names... and call them a name in the same sentence.

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2008, 07:51:18 AM »
IMO, HH6 is very right - Obama doesn't have experience and his plans are theory at best.

His strength is that he's a good decision maker.

He can surround himself with the best and most experienced thinkers in the country.
But his ability to MAKE DECISIONS is what matters most.

JFK made the decision to back down when USSR set up missiles in our backyard, compromising turkish assets 6 months later quietly to save face and diffuse the cuba standoff.  That was good decision making, espesically as the groupthink military men around him sat there in a bunker with hard-ons, begging him to launch on russia.

The ability to make good decisions is what I want most in a leader. 

Obama can make good decisions.  I don't think anyone can deny that, can they?

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2008, 09:22:18 AM »
His words? If so is that not a good thing? He will have the best advisors the House can staff. Question, that is a plus suppose you don't know about something, are you not going to ask for the best help possible?

Ron PAul made McCain look like a tool when he asked him a simple question about the Plunge Protection Team at a debate. McCain admits to knowing little about the economy and then in other rally's said he is very well versed on the economy. I guess that means he's somewhere in the middle?  ::) Just like everything else he talks about, his knowledge on stuff depends on when and where he was at the time.

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2008, 09:23:49 AM »
An intelligent cabinet (perhaps Ron Paul overseeing the dinero?) remedies that situation.  Not exactly rocket science.

Ron Paul would never work with McCain, they are complete opposites and it goes against most of what he believes in.

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2008, 10:19:10 AM »
Independents are ignoring his ethnic background and choosing him in the primaries.
Democrats are choosing him over Hilary 2 to 1 in the last ten primaries.  (33% margin of victory)

They're ignoring his ethnic background so far.


Why did you vote for Clinton over Bush 1 and Dole?

Bush Sr. lost me when he broke his "read my lips, no new taxes" pledge.  Plus I thought Clinton overall was a better candidate.  Same with Dole.  Clinton was overall a better candidate IMO.

Why did you lie, repeatedly, about voting for Bush Sr.? 

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2008, 10:20:09 AM »
I watched that debate.  All I could do was cringe as Obama continued on all night with his "ideology".  We're in DEEP DOO DOO if this man becomes president.    :(

Yep.  Deep kim chee too. 

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2008, 10:53:53 AM »
Ron PAul made McCain look like a tool when he asked him a simple question about the Plunge Protection Team at a debate. McCain admits to knowing little about the economy and then in other rally's said he is very well versed on the economy. I guess that means he's somewhere in the middle?  ::) Just like everything else he talks about, his knowledge on stuff depends on when and where he was at the time.

Wow interesting Ron Paul brought up PPT, wow everyone is in shock and awe. McCain could and should care less about PPT, he won't be the one looking at ticker tapes throughout the day. You said it yourself he is well versed on the economy, do you even know how the white house works? I'll put it to you this way it is like a business and not all CEOs know everything that is why they hire people to fill in the gaps sherlock.

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2008, 12:09:36 PM »
Wow interesting Ron Paul brought up PPT, wow everyone is in shock and awe. McCain could and should care less about PPT, he won't be the one looking at ticker tapes throughout the day. You said it yourself he is well versed on the economy, do you even know how the white house works? I'll put it to you this way it is like a business and not all CEOs know everything that is why they hire people to fill in the gaps sherlock.


 I didnt say McCain had to be on the trading floor. You think that it wouldn't be important for someone who wants to be president to even know what the PPT is or does? ok.  ::)

By the way, I didn't say Mccain was well versed on the economy, I'm telling you what he said about himself, but his own opinion of his own knowledge on the matter of economics changes like the weather.

I aslo think the federal government should do as little as possible to manage the economy, they only  fuck things up


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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2008, 12:21:17 PM »
Bush Sr. lost me when he broke his "read my lips, no new taxes" pledge.  Plus I thought Clinton overall was a better candidate.  Same with Dole.  Clinton was overall a better candidate IMO.

Why did you lie, repeatedly, about voting for Bush Sr.? 

I was too young to vote for Bush Sr, I was only in high school.  But I certainly did support him.

Being a 2-time liberal voter like you are, your opinion on republican standpoints is very skewed.  You support neocon agenda now - you don't really understand Reagan conservatism.

You're a lib in wolf's clothing, BB.

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2008, 01:16:31 PM »
I watched that debate.  All I could do was cringe as Obama continued on all night with his "ideology".  We're in DEEP DOO DOO if this man becomes president.    :(

frankly i donno how much more deeper  doo doo could be in with our current situation.  But it's all in how you look at it, like a roman caesar  handing out grain to quite down the riots.

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2008, 04:00:40 PM »
Yep.  Deep kim chee too. 
That was the first full debate that I got to see.  Sen. Clinton schooled Sen. Obama, in my opinion.  He's very empty.

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2008, 04:14:00 PM »
Headhunter is a college graduate, is serving his country, and has served in combat.  He gets major (so to speak) props in my book.  If you can't respect what he has done and is doing for your country then you have a problem.
 

So getting a degree from Degreemill U and serving in combat mean that you can't be a bigot? Hmmm...interesting. If you support him after his ridiculous assertions about Obama's name and religion, you're the one with the "problem."
 

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I think a person with military experience is better suited to be Commander in Chief than someone who has never served. 

Based on what?  FDRoosevelt did more than fine during the most serious war our country has ever fought. 

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If you don't want someone taking what you have earned, then why support Obama?  Haven't you been listening to him?  He is all about redistribution of wealth, like any big government liberal.  He wants to "roll back" tax cuts for "the wealthy."  He wants to raise taxes on businesses too.  He wants to give as much government money (i.e., our tax dollars) to as many people as possible.  He wants a government takeover of the entire healthcare system.
   

His health care plan, if implemented, will be a boon to American business because it will lower premiums overall.  Do you realize how crippling to American business health care costs are?  The premiums are so high because we have to pay for the costs of providing care to the uninsured.

The uninsured do not get care until it's too "late," in that it's much more expensive to fix something that's broken.  Better to have a plan that allows preventive care.

Unlike michael Moore's fantasies, most hospitals do not turn away people who need life-saving procedures.  They usually do the procedure and pass the cost on to those who can afford it.  Like businesses. 

About taxes. He said he will reverse Bush's tax cuts, which will put us back at Clinton's level.  My dad has been an oncologist for the last 24 years.  I never once heard him complain about taxes during Clinton's presidency.....so I don't foresee a crippling tax burden under Obama.

Corporations can do a million different things to reduce their tax burden (I know this because of the work I do). I'm not worried about them.

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I don't have a problem with investing in our future, but we already do that.  If we didn't write a single new law or change any existing laws everyone in this country would still have unlimited potential.  What we need (at least me anyway) is for the government to stay out of our way as much as possible, unless it's performing necessary services (e.g., defense, public safety, roads, etc.). 


This is extremely naive.  I don't even know where to begin. 

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2008, 05:40:49 PM »
I was too young to vote for Bush Sr, I was only in high school.  But I certainly did support him.


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I voted for Bush, Dole, Bush and Bush.  yes, I'm a repub. 

Why did you say you voted for Bush Sr. if you were only 16 when he was elected?

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2008, 08:43:46 AM »
 

So getting a degree from Degreemill U and serving in combat mean that you can't be a bigot? Hmmm...interesting. If you support him after his ridiculous assertions about Obama's name and religion, you're the one with the "problem."
 

Based on what?  FDRoosevelt did more than fine during the most serious war our country has ever fought. 
   

His health care plan, if implemented, will be a boon to American business because it will lower premiums overall.  Do you realize how crippling to American business health care costs are?  The premiums are so high because we have to pay for the costs of providing care to the uninsured.

The uninsured do not get care until it's too "late," in that it's much more expensive to fix something that's broken.  Better to have a plan that allows preventive care.

Unlike michael Moore's fantasies, most hospitals do not turn away people who need life-saving procedures.  They usually do the procedure and pass the cost on to those who can afford it.  Like businesses. 

About taxes. He said he will reverse Bush's tax cuts, which will put us back at Clinton's level.  My dad has been an oncologist for the last 24 years.  I never once heard him complain about taxes during Clinton's presidency.....so I don't foresee a crippling tax burden under Obama.

Corporations can do a million different things to reduce their tax burden (I know this because of the work I do). I'm not worried about them.


This is extremely naive.  I don't even know where to begin. 

Degreemillu..I went to the oldest private Military school in the the country. I have a masters and working on number 2..again u  haven't a clue what ur taking about. . Maybe u have alot of white guilt and feel u need to vote for Obama. He was a muslim...was...I don't have to like him dumbass. I also don't have to like paying for everybodies health care. If u don't work hard and can't afford healthcare...thats not my problem. Maybe if ur buddy Edwards wasn't sueing for everything and lawsuits were capped, American business wouldn't have to shell out billions for healthcare. Maybe if the average American wasn't an overweight lardball, they wouldn't need so much healthcare. Again not my problem. This guy will bankrupt us. My parents weren't doctors so maybe they didn't feel the same about Bill and his taxes. Thats a great example by the way...my dad was a well established doctor so he didn't mind the extra taxes.  ::)
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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2008, 09:17:59 PM »
Degreemillu..I went to the oldest private Military school in the the country. I have a masters and working on number 2..again u  haven't a clue what ur taking about. . Maybe u have alot of white guilt and feel u need to vote for Obama. He was a muslim...was...I don't have to like him dumbass. I also don't have to like paying for everybodies health care. If u don't work hard and can't afford healthcare...thats not my problem. Maybe if ur buddy Edwards wasn't sueing for everything and lawsuits were capped, American business wouldn't have to shell out billions for healthcare. Maybe if the average American wasn't an overweight lardball, they wouldn't need so much healthcare. Again not my problem. This guy will bankrupt us. My parents weren't doctors so maybe they didn't feel the same about Bill and his taxes. Thats a great example by the way...my dad was a well established doctor so he didn't mind the extra taxes.  ::)



Thats seems to be a problem............A republican problem. ::)

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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2008, 08:30:34 AM »
Paying more money for worthless people is not my problem.....I'm not paying for a socialist utopia.
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Re: Obama: US troops Scavenging Weapons?
« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2008, 09:23:52 AM »
His words? If so is that not a good thing? He will have the best advisors the House can staff. Question, that is a plus suppose you don't know about something, are you not going to ask for the best help possible?
Bush promised us the best advisors as well back in 2000.  We all saw how that worked.