i am having a discussion via email with friend and i need help with a response. He is a supporter of Intelligent Design and i am not. IMO I.D is so general unlike other religions its hard to keep him obligated to aspects of I.D. His simple belief is that there is a creator plain and simple, and life is not by accident. its hard for me to debate because its soooo damn general.
here is his statement:
Things like scientific evidence of nonlocal communication amongst the animal/bird/fish and insect world, spooky action at a distance/ or quantum entanglement(once again nonlocality demonstrated in atoms), NDEs where in countless documented cases people were able to exactly describe the events that took place after they “physically” and mentally died (scientist said they had no brain waves and were clinically dead yet they could describe later from a vantage point above the operating room exactly what the doctors were doing to there body and some even accurately recalled specific conversations spoken during flat line) which implies consciousness existing outside the confines of our human body, mediums channeling dead loved ones and revealing secrets to a person only the dead loved one would know (don’t laugh, there are many documented cases of this) this of course implying consciousness existing after physicality, nonlocal simultaneous cellular communication of our of body’s trillions of cells, the similar geometric and rotational design of galaxies, star clusters, solar systems, planets and moons, all the way down to the structure of an atom, and on and on this could go.
Again there are mountains of evidence, in my opinon, of an intelligent universe created by genius so magnificent it is unfathomable. Can you truly sit there and tell me from your heart and your mind that this is all a result of an accident and you are only the result of coinciding probabilities? An accident that continued to become more and more complex, more and more perfect, more and more harmonious? – the delicate balance of our ecosystem, symbiotic relationship between living things, the importance of the magnetic poles of the earth, the perfect distance from the sun, the life producing rays of the sun (keep in mind, without the sun no life would exist on earth, and with the sun too close no life would exist on earth), the ozone layer, the atmosphere- 78% N, 21% O2, 1% other gases, the phenomenon of seasons and tides, the ebb and flow, the cycles of life, photosynthesis, and the miracles of reproduction. Endess co-incidences occurring all at once. Don’t you see the beauty in all of this? It’s amazing! It’s perfect! It’s Creation at its best! It’s on purpose.
You may still be saying at this point, ‘but these are all just random occurrences and coincidences!’ Really? Funny how everything worked out so perfectly.
On the same point, you also have given me no evidence, proof, or reasons why you believe life is here by accident.
It is just your belief, but you have no evidence? You have every right to believe whatever you want to believe, but as skeptical as you are, you seem like the type of person that would need empirical evidence to back up your belief system. Or is the reason you don’t believe merely based on “faith”?
Let me ask you these very simple questions (and please answer them because they are vital to the continuance of our friendly discussion on this fascinating subject:
1. Do you believe in the Big-Bang theory? If yes, what caused an infinitely dense point of matter to explode and expand as the theory states it did?
2. How did life on Earth? Really, I would like to know your answer on this.
3. How and why (as the theory states) did that alleged one-celled organism that allegedly formed out of the primordial soup of chemicals and elements on that one fine day when all the stars aligned begin to split into two, then 4, then 8 cells, and then continuously grow to greater and greater complexities? What is causing this expansion, growth, and diversity?
4. Why can’t scientists, with all the technology available now and the genetic code cracked, create “life” in a lab? Why can’t they create just one amoeba or one-celled organism with all the correct chemicals and elements at their disposal? Surely this can be done if it was done by accident a few billion years ago?
5. Do you believe in ghosts or spirits?
If you ignore everything else I’ve written in this email that’s fine, but please answer these 5 questions in order for our discussion to continue intelligently.
your help is appreciated, Bruce, Columbusdude or similar.
