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Re: Hilary angling to demand VP position!
« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2008, 02:40:54 PM »
Ur counting out Hil and thats a mistake....u have no idea what she might be up to. On paper ur right..and if things were even..maybe ur right again. She's the best politician in this fight so we'll see.
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Re: Hilary angling to demand VP position!
« Reply #51 on: March 08, 2008, 03:09:17 PM »
Ok sure....his staff is killing him and the media honeymoon is over. Wait until they dig. There is plenty of dirt and very little substance..plus u really think u can't count Hil out. Hope is not a method.

where is this dirt?  I'd like to hear it!

If Obama is dirty, why are they waiting til he wins all these states to reveal it?  I mean, dropping the news right before super tuesday, or even before Iowa would have been far wiser.

I keep hearing how bad it'll be "once they dig".... I find it VERY hard to believe that Camp Clinton hasn't been digging all this time.

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« Reply #52 on: March 08, 2008, 03:15:41 PM »
Camp Clinton can't figure out how to attack this guy...atleast up until 2 weeks or so ago. He has ties to the weather underground folks...ties to an avowed communist...his ties to the unual dem party hack in Illinois, all of which have been ignored. Then there is the fact that the media has ignored his lack of record and substance. Its all going away...maybe it will get swept under the rug again if he gets the nomination. How do u successfully attack a black candidate...a candidate that shares roughly the same beliefs as u do...thats something they have not figured out.
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« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2008, 04:33:57 PM »
Camp Clinton can't figure out how to attack this guy...atleast up until 2 weeks or so ago. He has ties to the weather underground folks...ties to an avowed communist...

...why are Americans so scared of communists?

Do the propaganda induced attitudes from the Cold War still persist?

And what are these "ties" Obama has to this communist anyway? Statistics would dictate there isn't a person alive today who doesn't personally know: a thief; a drunk; a junkie or a child molester. Does meeting someone constitute having "ties" to that person? What if a junkie sits beside you on the bus?


Who do you actually want to run for the presidency? Jeebus himself? All his (His) friends were either unemployed or prostitutes...



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Re: Hilary angling to demand VP position!
« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2008, 04:55:10 PM »
...why are Americans so scared of communists?

Are you serious?

Everything about Communism is against the values and principals our country was founded upon.


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« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2008, 05:05:07 PM »
Everything about Communism is against the values and principals our country was founded upon.

...everything? At it's core communism is little more than advanced socialism.

As a democratic, socialist, secular state, the US would have more in common with a (true) communist state than it would have with say, an absolutist monarchy... or a fascist state for that matter (although the argument could be made that America is now a de facto fascist state itself maintaining a pretense of democracy).

The values and principles America was founded upon (which it has now for the most part abandoned) were those of Freemasonry.
 

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Re: Hilary angling to demand VP position!
« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2008, 05:10:41 PM »
Camp Clinton can't figure out how to attack this guy...atleast up until 2 weeks or so ago. He has ties to the weather underground folks...ties to an avowed communist...his ties to the unual dem party hack in Illinois, all of which have been ignored. Then there is the fact that the media has ignored his lack of record and substance. Its all going away...maybe it will get swept under the rug again if he gets the nomination. How do u successfully attack a black candidate...a candidate that shares roughly the same beliefs as u do...thats something they have not figured out.

Why would FOX news ignore these facts?

They seem to LOVE to embarass Hilary and Obama all the time.  Even the file footage they show of them always makes Hilary look older, and obama look 'darker', than the CNN and MSNBC footage.

If he's shady, why is FOX hiding it?  I mean, I'm not crazy about any of the candidates, and many military folks have said they hate obama cause he's a muslim, etc... but I want to see facts... what is all this dirt, and why won't FOX news report it?

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« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2008, 05:16:32 PM »
...everything? At it's core communism is little more than advanced socialism.

As a democratic, socialist, secular state, the US would have more in common with a (true) communist state than it would have with say, an absolutist monarchy... or a fascist state for that matter (although the argument could be made that America is now a de facto fascist state itself maintaining a pretense of democracy).

The values and principles America was founded upon (which it has now for the most part abandoned) were those of Freemasonry.
 

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I'm of the opinion that "socialism" and "fascism" are in many ways related.

A lot of fascist governments are socialists governments (former USSR, Cuba, Nazi Germany). It's all about how the socialist policies are enforced and how free will and individual sovereignty is taken away.

America isn't a fascist country but we are sliding in that direction. It will happen slowly through guilt, fear, and smiley faces.



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« Reply #58 on: March 09, 2008, 08:47:45 PM »
Why would FOX news ignore these facts?

They seem to LOVE to embarass Hilary and Obama all the time.  Even the file footage they show of them always makes Hilary look older, and obama look 'darker', than the CNN and MSNBC footage.

If he's shady, why is FOX hiding it?  I mean, I'm not crazy about any of the candidates, and many military folks have said they hate obama cause he's a muslim, etc... but I want to see facts... what is all this dirt, and why won't FOX news report it?
It's because there's nothing there.  ;)



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Re: Hilary angling to demand VP position!
« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2008, 06:53:31 AM »
It's because there's nothing there.  ;)

that would mean that all these folks who have been saying for a year that "obama has skeletons in his closet" and "he's a muslim" and "he's evil, you'll find out" were all wrong.

were you wrong, HH6?

Where are these stories, and more importantly, why won't FOX news even report it?



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Re: Hilary angling to demand VP position!
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2008, 09:26:09 AM »




He's waiting for Hannity to let him know.... :-[

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« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2008, 09:28:11 AM »


He's waiting for Hannity to let him know.... :-[

yeah he is.

fucking pathetic, no-opinion owning follower.

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Re: Hilary angling to demand VP position!
« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2008, 06:49:21 AM »
Ur counting out Hil and thats a mistake....u have no idea what she might be up to. On paper ur right..and if things were even..maybe ur right again. She's the best politician in this fight so we'll see.

Exactly, which means she's the worst possible candidate to put into the White House.

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« Reply #63 on: March 12, 2008, 09:04:50 AM »
Pelosi: Joint ticket 'impossible'
Posted: 05:30 PM ET
 
Pelosi said Tuesday a so-called 'Dream Ticket' won't happen.
(CNN) — A so-called "dream ticket" scenario - the idea that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama could join forces this fall — may have gripped the imaginations of Democrats nationwide - but you can list House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as a skeptic.

"I think that ticket either way is impossible," Pelosi told a New England Cable News reporter Tuesday, pointing to comments from Clinton and her campaign that implied Republican John McCain would make a better commander-in-chief than Obama.

"I think that the Clinton administration has fairly ruled that out by proclaiming that Senator McCain would be a better commander-in-Chief than Obama," she said.

She spoke bluntly about her view that a joint ticket was not in the cards, she said, because "I wanted to be sure I didn't leave any ambiguity."

The California Democrat, who has remained neutral throughout the party's primary process, said she remains an uncommitted superdelegate.

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« Reply #64 on: March 13, 2008, 11:54:40 AM »
March 13, 2008
Posted: 02:30 PM ET
 
Pelosi again said a joint ticket with Obama and Clinton won't happen.
(CNN) – The Democratic presidential ticket will be a "Dream Team," Nancy Pelosi said Thursday, it just won’t have both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama's name on it.

Speaking to reporters on Capitol Hill, the House Speaker reiterated comments she made earlier in the week that the two presidential candidates will not end up sharing a ticket.

"I do think we will have a dream team, it just won't be those two names," She said. "Whoever our nominee is and whoever he or she is and whoever he or she chooses, will be a dream team as the Democrats go forward.”

When pressed further about the possibility of a joint ticket, Pelosi stated flatly, "Take it from me, that won't be the ticket."

The comments echoed remarks the Speaker made Tuesday, when she emphatically told a Boston television station that a joint ticket with Clinton and Obama is "impossible."

"I think that ticket either way is impossible," she said. "I think that the Clinton administration has fairly ruled that out by proclaiming that Senator McCain would be a better commander-in-Chief than Obama."

Pelosi’s remarks came a day after Obama mocked Clinton and her campaign surrogates for raising the implication he would make a good vice president.

"With all due respect, I won twice as many states as Sen. Clinton. I've won more of the popular vote than Sen. Clinton. I have more delegates than Sen. Clinton. So, I don't know how somebody who's in second place is offering vice presidency to the person who's in first place," he said at a campaign event in Mississippi.

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Re: Hilary angling to demand VP position!
« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2008, 06:08:25 PM »
I must be dreaming, ...but I think the ultimate "Dream Ticket", and certainly one capable of taking the White house hands down would be one with Barak Obama & Ron Paul on it. Could you imagine it. The audacity of hope, sound fiscal policy, and a domestic agenda framed by the guideline of the Constitution?  That would certainly make history unlike anything else we've ever seen, ...although with Ron Paul's recent statements about Obama, I doubt something like that could ever happen, ...even in my wildest dreams, ...but a gal can dream can't she. {sigh}

Luke, you should post more often. The few times I've read your stuff, I've really enjoyed it.  :)
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« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2008, 06:26:35 PM »
Luke, you should post more often. The few times I've read your stuff, I've really enjoyed it.  :)

...you do know that I'm a thirty-year-old live-at-home loser who works minimum wage jobs to fund his hobby of traipsing across the globe hunting for lost treasure troves and Sasquatch, don't you?


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« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2008, 06:42:52 PM »
...you do know that I'm a thirty-year-old live-at-home loser who works minimum wage jobs to fund his hobby of traipsing across the globe hunting for lost treasure troves and Sasquatch, don't you?

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???

You two should get your own board...or a room.  :P
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« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2008, 06:45:19 PM »
...you do know that I'm a thirty-year-old live-at-home loser who works minimum wage jobs to fund his hobby of traipsing across the globe hunting for lost treasure troves and Sasquatch, don't you?

The Luke

Umm, ...no I didn't. But what does that have to do with what you write or how enjoyable I find it?

Or are you telling me this for another reason? Are you sick of your minimum wage job? looking for something more?
If so, ...you know I can hook you up where you can spend all your time traipsing across the globe, hunting for lost treasure troves & Sasquatches, ...and never ever have to ask anybody if they'd like fries with that? Really!  :D
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Re: Hilary angling to demand VP position!
« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2008, 06:56:49 PM »
???

You two should get your own board...or a room.  :P


A room with him. I don't think so!
If he's who I think he is, I'd be way too skeered he'd hurt me, ...big time.

Wasn't Luke the guy who once posted a pic of his legs. Legs that looked like giant redwood tree trunks.
If so, there might be a little too much power in those thighs for this little gal to handle.
Contrary to what some may think, I really am just a fragile, delicate little flower. He might break me.
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« Reply #70 on: March 14, 2008, 07:19:31 PM »
...no post of my legs up yet.

If you watch the Simpsons... Comic Book Guy. That's what I look like, balding; fat; bearded (except I'm only 5').


The reason why I'm so interested in these threads is because as a European, I'm continually amazed at how indoctrinated Americans (of both stripes) seem to be. It's not just entrenched political viewpoints, it's dogmatized entrenched THINKING.

Americans are seemingly so misinformed that they don't seem to understand that America is not a microcosm of the world at large... it's a weird Twilight Zone that borders reality.

In most of Europe Ralph Nader would be considered right wing... you guys make fun of the French; try visiting France. They're not arrogant, they're cultured... and yes, to put it bluntly, they ARE better than you so it's not a character fault if they also happen to think so.


Gotta admit though, Ron Paul or Ralph Nader as Obama's VP would be a dream ticket.

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« Reply #71 on: March 14, 2008, 07:46:37 PM »
...no post of my legs up yet.

If you watch the Simpsons... Comic Book Guy. That's what I look like, balding; fat; bearded (except I'm only 5').


The reason why I'm so interested in these threads is because as a European, I'm continually amazed at how indoctrinated Americans (of both stripes) seem to be. It's not just entrenched political viewpoints, it's dogmatized entrenched THINKING.

Americans are seemingly so misinformed that they don't seem to understand that America is not a microcosm of the world at large... it's a weird Twilight Zone that borders reality.

In most of Europe Ralph Nader would be considered right wing... you guys make fun of the French; try visiting France. They're not arrogant, they're cultured... and yes, to put it bluntly, they ARE better than you so it's not a character fault if they also happen to think so.


Gotta admit though, Ron Paul or Ralph Nader as Obama's VP would be a dream ticket.

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I would think most people around the world are rather myopic when dealing with domestic issues and concerns. Maybe Americans moreso...maybe not. We don't have the perspective of being able to look at ourselves from a distance as you do being in Europe.

As interesting as it may sound, an Obama - Paul/Nader ticket is absolutely ridiculous.
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« Reply #72 on: March 14, 2008, 07:56:46 PM »
I meant more along the lines of FOX News... less myopia, more a case of propaganda.

FOX News can't even be broadcast here in Europe... it breaches the legislated requirement that news coverage be "fair and balanced". Yet Americans utilise this filth as informing (if not shaping) their world view.



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« Reply #73 on: March 14, 2008, 09:40:09 PM »
I meant more along the lines of FOX News... less myopia, more a case of propaganda.

FOX News can't even be broadcast here in Europe... it breaches the legislated requirement that news coverage be "fair and balanced". Yet Americans utilise this filth as informing (if not shaping) their world view.



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FOX News is garbage wrapped in a nice little bow of very pretty and usually very blonde news bunnies to make the right-wing nonsense they spew more palatable. Don't worry, only a certain segment of the American population gets their news from Rupert Murdoch's news outlet. There are other channels to choose from that are not as nauseating. Consider yourselves fortunate to not see FOX, as many of us ARE fortunate to see BBC News.
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Re: Hilary angling to demand VP position!
« Reply #74 on: March 14, 2008, 09:43:04 PM »
I meant more along the lines of FOX News... less myopia, more a case of propaganda.

FOX News can't even be broadcast here in Europe... it breaches the legislated requirement that news coverage be "fair and balanced". Yet Americans utilise this filth as informing (if not shaping) their world view.



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Interesting.....  you have any link or doc on that?