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The point is, if you read the last dozen or so posts, where do you draw the line?  Okay to kill cockroaches, not okay to kill mice?  Okay to kill mice, not okay to kill cows? Okay to kill cows, not okay to kill dogs?  Okay to kill salmon, not okay to kill goldfish?

Wherever you draw a line it's arbitrary, and you will almost always vilify anyone who draws the line somewhere different than where you do.

It reeks of hypocrisy, and I hate hypocrites.


totally agree. people here (dog lovers) just saw this cute little puppy get thrown down the mountain and heard its cute little bark and goes apeshit over it. no rational thinking here. they just think with their emotions..

there are bigger things to be concerned about than this asshole soldier...

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Great, that's your line.

As you can see from several posts on this thread, some people draw the line more liberally than you do, and some more conservatively.  That means anyone who includes more animal types in the "okay to kill" subset than you do is pure evil incarnate, and anyone who includes fewer than you do probably considers you scum of the earth.

Goatboy....

This is not kindergarten.  Everything can be put a spin on something.

Were not talking about this guy killing a bug, mouse, snake, etcc....

He tossed a puppy.

Stay with the facts.....& stop giving a reason to debate something unrelated.

Especially from a guy that has no opinion on any living creature except for himself.

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So basically you call the shots as to what the pecking order is in regards to life? and if I don't agree, or have a different order, then you have the right to break my jaw?


A very good point, but a fatal human flaw we all have, we all think we are right and our way is justified.

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Goatboy....

This is not kindergarten.  Everything can be put a spin on something.

Were not talking about this guy killing a bug, mouse, snake, etcc....

He tossed a puppy.

Stay with the facts.....& stop giving a reason to debate something unrelated.



In many asian countries, Dogs are a food animal, no different than a cow or chicken in America.  You are trying to apply the standards of suburban America as though they were undisputed universal values.  They're not, and if you follow the logic of the arguments you'd see that.
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In many asian countries, Dogs are a food animal, no different than a cow or chicken in America.  You are trying to apply the standards of suburban America as though they were undisputed universal values.  They're not, and if you follow the logic of the arguments you'd see that.

If a dog is food in Asia, and is killed the same way that we kill a cow (severe trauma to the head, sledgehammer) how is it that one is different from the other?

This type of thinking (false premise combined with flawed argument and lots of emotions) makes me realize how so many Americans can justify pillaging and destruction of other countries because their way of life is not in line with "our" values.

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The point is, if you read the last dozen or so posts, where do you draw the line?  Okay to kill cockroaches, not okay to kill mice?  Okay to kill mice, not okay to kill cows? Okay to kill cows, not okay to kill dogs?  Okay to kill salmon, not okay to kill goldfish?

Wherever you draw a line it's arbitrary, and you will almost always vilify anyone who draws the line somewhere different than where you do.

It reeks of hypocrisy, and I hate hypocrites.



ummmmmmmmm that is my point didnt you read what i wrote?

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Expect this thread to die now that people start to realise by the last 2 pages of discussion that what they have been socialised to think by their culture/country isnt what people in other parts of the world think.

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totally agree. people here (dog lovers) just saw this cute little puppy get thrown down the mountain and heard its cute little bark and goes apeshit over it. no rational thinking here. they just think with their emotions..

there are bigger things to be concerned about than this asshole soldier...

Yeah like stopping this dipshit before he becomes another statistic

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According to a 1997 study done by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) and Northeastern University, animal abusers are five times more likely to commit violent crimes against people and four times more likely to commit property crimes than are individuals without a history of animal abuse. (not exactly what we need in the military or in Iraq)


Many studies in psychology, sociology, and criminology during the last 25 years have demonstrated that violent offenders frequently have childhood and adolescent histories of serious and repeated animal cruelty. The FBI has recognized the connection since the 1970s, when its analysis of the lives of serial killers suggested that most had killed or tortured animals as children. Other research has shown consistent patterns of animal cruelty among perpetrators of more common forms of violence, including child abuse, spouse abuse, and elder abuse. In fact, the American Psychiatric Association considers animal cruelty one of the diagnostic criteria of conduct disorder.

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In many asian countries, Dogs are a food animal, no different than a cow or chicken in America.  You are trying to apply the standards of suburban America as though they were undisputed universal values.  They're not, and if you follow the logic of the arguments you'd see that.

I believe the young man in the video is AMERICAN   ::)

which when you're in the military (even in another country) you're held by the laws of that country & the laws of the United States.

In the United States....abusing animals is not tolerated

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stop being a dipshit george

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So if the dog was already dead, and this dipshit is guilty of nothing more than tossing around road-kill, is he still likely to become the next Jeffrey Dahmer once he returns stateside?
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Expect this thread to die now that people start to realise by the last 2 pages of discussion that what they have been socialised to think by their culture/country isnt what people in other parts of the world think.

That's how we make decisions in America.  All emotion, no logic, no principles.  Then when we are called on it we walk away and watch American Idol.

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I believe the young man in the video is AMERICAN   ::)

which when you're in the military (even in another country) you're held by the laws of that country & the laws of the United States.

In the United States....abusing animals is not tolerated

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stop being a dipshit george


You're talking about laws, I'm talking about values and ethics.  Two different animals (pardon the pun).


PS:  my name ain't george.
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In many asian countries, Dogs are a food animal, no different than a cow or chicken in America.  You are trying to apply the standards of suburban America as though they were undisputed universal values.  They're not, and if you follow the logic of the arguments you'd see that.

  And in those Asian countries it is believe the animal must die a slow and agonizing death and even be cooked still alive because it will taste better.

  THAT is the difference.

   Some things are just WRONG.    Blatant cruelty and suffering is WRONG.

 I might not like people eating dogs and cats, but I can accept a cultural difference if they are not being sadistic assholes while doing it.

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So if the dog was already dead, and this dipshit is guilty of nothing more than tossing around road-kill, is he still likely to become the next Jeffrey Dahmer once he returns stateside?

*birds chirping*

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I blame this on women.

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  And in those Asian countries it is believe the animal must die a slow and agonizing death and even be cooked still alive because it will taste better.

  THAT is the difference.

   Some things are just WRONG.    Blatant cruelty and suffering is WRONG.

 I might not like people eating dogs and cats, but I can accept a cultural difference if they are not being sadistic assholes while doing it.



Have you seen how we slaughter cows and chickens in this country?  It's not exactly what you'd call "humane".
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FUCK DOGS ::)

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I blame this on women.

The "soccer mom" syndrome is ruining this country.  About 1985 or so America started sliding into the shitter, and it's due in no small part to public policy being made based on emotion rather than logic.
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So if the dog was already dead, and this dipshit is guilty of nothing more than tossing around road-kill, is he still likely to become the next Jeffrey Dahmer once he returns stateside?

Are you so certain the dog was dead?

Also....for shits...lets assume the dog was dead & he videotaped tossing road kill.  It's punisable under the UCMJ for acts unbecoming of a Marine.  Plain and simple.  There's no argument about it.  When you become a Marine, one of the things that happen to you during bootcamp is you're sat down & explained what is expected of you.  Shit, you can get written up for walking around with your hands in your pocket & wearing a hat indoors.  Especially when you're doing so under the pretence of goofing around.

Yes, whats the point of picking up something (dead or alive) & tossing it?

Goatboy, if you truly believe this....your wife married a fucked individual

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You're talking about laws, I'm talking about values and ethics.  Two different animals (pardon the pun).


PS:  my name ain't george.

when you act like this...you're George


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Have you seen how we slaughter cows and chickens in this country?  It's not exactly what you'd call "humane".

That's because dogs look nice.  Humans are superficial.  That's why a puppy will get treated better than a person, unless that person is really good looking.   

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Have you seen how we slaughter cows and chickens in this country?  It's not exactly what you'd call "humane".

whats this have to do with a Marine tossing a puppy?

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Have you seen how we slaughter cows and chickens in this country?  It's not exactly what you'd call "humane".

I will be the first person to say there are flaws in the slaughter industry, no surprise that it is a problem with the PEOPLE though. 

  There is a difference between trying to do something humane, and blatantly not trying.   Trying to minimize pain and suffering, whereas in Asian countries prolonging pain and suffering is the goal.

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oh shit!! you really fuccked up now, "stormshadow" believes in throwing 4 pound puppies off cliffs and torturing them, aren't you terrified of this absolute badass? ;D

Yeah that fag "stormshadow" he's a real bad ass feels no sympathy for anything.  Too bad its not his mother they are throwing off the cliff, then we would see how bad ass he is as he crys like a pussy before they behead him.  Real tuff guy, needs to be owned for eternity can never live this one down.

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And Marines aren't in a foreign (or domestic) land tossing alive or dead puppies