Some people can talk all day and say absolutely nothing while others say little and speak volumes.
I think I know which category to put you into.
Well, I was just responding to your inaccurate observations of my comment and pointing out your inability to read between the lines (go below the surface). I understand you, like your type, need 3 word excerpts for it to sink in, but I sincerely refuse to lower the quality of the debate for you to be able to understand it. If you do not get it, do not quote me. If you're not sure ask me.
You're correct about individual sovereignty and an all powerful government but you're wrong about fascism's association about "values" or "church". I only say church because I think you're relating Christianity to fascism. It's correct that Nazi Germany used Christianity to manipulate the masses you should also note that it was a twisted and perverted view of the religion and it's views. We are seeing this today by the extremists durkas that are using Islam to promote hate and intolerance.
That is not true.
The way Nazism was able to evolve in Germany into the widespread movement that eventually killed millions of human beings is through two things: Exacerbated patriotism and outright racism caused by what had happened to their grandparents in WWI (simply put, THEY LOST!). Although there isn't a clear link (I may be wrong on this,) this type of reaction was in many ways, passively, spurred by the church (let's not forget that some of the biggest concentration camp murderers were ex-priests). The church did instill a set of what they called "values" into their believers, and as in any other time (be it the Spanish Inquisition or the burnings of the infidels all over Europe,) when things got rough they were quick to point the finger at the innocent.
When I say "values" I mean the fact that they always taught very undemocratic principles like: land x belongs to race x because God said so and language x is spoken there because race x rules the land by the grace of God. As opposed to our (original and intended-although it turned out a little differently-) system, which is "land x belongs to whoever fucking buys it, that person is free to do as he/she wishes with the land; regardless of race, religion or creed; as long as he/she accepts the rules of the land (Constitution)".
Going back to the subject, it is obvious that "values" played a very big part in what happened in Germany during the past century. Unless you have a predisposed population you cannot whipp people into a nationalistic frenzy whose only goal is to keep the "values" intact. In a very Maslowian way, you have to put people into survival mode (remember the terror alert warnings of a few years back that had eveyone's nipple's getting hard everytime a supposed attack was on its way? That was the intended goal: to put you in survival mode). It happened in Germany when Hitler and his cronies made up a story about ethnic Germans who lived in Hungary and Poland were being killed and just happened a couple of years ago with the invention of the WMD in Iraq. This ain't new. I'm not making this up.
I mean, the Jewish conspiracy is now Islam's hate of democracy. Guantánamo is the new Auschwitz. The gleichschaltung is now Bush's law basically stating "I owe your ass!". Things are lining up man. We're headed for a totalitarian regime at full speed. If you think corporations or someone in particular is going to come to save the day then you're in for a surprise. All the freedoms we've got were fought for. They were not mercily handed down
by anyone. Keep that in mind.
Power has only one thing in mind: To perpetuate itself in it, directly or indirectly. History proves me right.
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