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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #100 on: March 12, 2008, 06:44:36 PM »
Quote from: m8 on March 12, 2008, 06:41:14 PM
Far from his best but still the best man that day, from what I've seen.

Debatable, as are most endeavors of subjectivity
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #101 on: March 12, 2008, 07:01:58 PM »
Quote from: HTexan on March 12, 2008, 04:57:19 PM
why did cbs not show it?

Because they saw the result as bullshit like the majority of people in attendance.  Arnold should not have won this contest in any way shape/form.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #102 on: March 12, 2008, 07:19:33 PM »
I don't agree. Arnold made the movie apparently to get some publicity for his movie career. I don't think any of the competitors knew he was competing. I told a few of them at the Bondi Hotel just before the contest but I doubt they believed me. I knew because Paul Graham told me but it was supposed to be a secret. Arnold stayed at the Hilton Hotel in the city so wasn't with the other guys. Zane moved there later.

Everyone can have an opinion. However I was the only guy who took prejudging photos at the right level to assess the physiques properly. After looking at hundreds of these photos and the slides I concluded Arnold was the winner. Dickerson had great legs and posed well but his arms and chest were small when standing beside Arnold. People have argued for Mentzer, Zane, Coe, Tinerino, Callendar, Walker and Arnold being the winner. That is what happens in a close contest. The scores clearly show that, too.

I had a friend take some video but he got so excited he was stamping his feet and the quality sucks. Not sure if I captured the booing. It was there, no mistake about that. There was a bit of booing for several of the finalists to show displeasure at where the judges placed them.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #103 on: March 13, 2008, 04:27:12 AM »
Quote from: Vince Basile on March 12, 2008, 07:19:33 PM
I don't agree. Arnold made the movie apparently to get some publicity for his movie career. I don't think any of the competitors knew he was competing. I told a few of them at the Bondi Hotel just before the contest but I doubt they believed me. I knew because Paul Graham told me but it was supposed to be a secret. Arnold stayed at the Hilton Hotel in the city so wasn't with the other guys. Zane moved there later.

Everyone can have an opinion. However I was the only guy who took prejudging photos at the right level to assess the physiques properly. After looking at hundreds of these photos and the slides I concluded Arnold was the winner. Dickerson had great legs and posed well but his arms and chest were small when standing beside Arnold. People have argued for Mentzer, Zane, Coe, Tinerino, Callendar, Walker and Arnold being the winner. That is what happens in a close contest. The scores clearly show that, too.

I had a friend take some video but he got so excited he was stamping his feet and the quality sucks. Not sure if I captured the booing. It was there, no mistake about that. There was a bit of booing for several of the finalists to show displeasure at where the judges placed them.


Thanks for clearing things up again since you are the only one around who was actually there. You could make an argument for any guy but IMO Arnold had the best combo of mass, conditioning and aesthetics. I agree though that it must have been very close as places 3-6 could be anyone depending on the criteria chosen.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #104 on: March 13, 2008, 05:01:17 AM »
Quote from: kyomu on March 12, 2008, 05:07:19 PM
A question.
Why he is not veiny at all? Genetic? Gears?

poor Pic quality.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #105 on: March 13, 2008, 05:04:21 AM »
ON most of these pics, Arnold's legs are an absolute disgrace. The guy got judged on half a body.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #106 on: March 13, 2008, 05:06:36 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyVegas on March 12, 2008, 03:48:01 PM
Wow, Arnold looks so SMALL and skinny here-cut, but not big.

Almost a swimmer like build.

Where did his thick chest go to, and the legs are even smaller.



here's another pic from that same photo shoot, you can see his chest and arms looking around 20 inches even standing relax....... so much for the "swimmer look".


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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #107 on: March 13, 2008, 05:09:05 AM »
Quote from: RZA on March 13, 2008, 05:04:21 AM
ON most of these pics, Arnold's legs are an absolute disgrace. The guy got judged on half a body.

Arnold calves were the biggest at that show.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #108 on: March 13, 2008, 05:12:35 AM »
Before the show....

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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #109 on: March 13, 2008, 05:13:38 AM »
Quote from: hipolito mejia on March 13, 2008, 05:12:35 AM
Before the show....



INCREDIBLE chest, even for today's standard
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #110 on: March 13, 2008, 10:35:56 AM »
Quote from: HTexan on March 12, 2008, 04:57:19 PM
why did cbs not show it?

To my knowledge, CBS found the show ludicrous, and refused to broadcast it in spite of Arnold's victory.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #111 on: March 13, 2008, 11:50:40 AM »
If Arnold was a stranger coming to the stage looking like that way he did ...but because he he was a 6 times Mr.O champ, looking so small compared with his former self on previous showing........


Don't give me wrong, You still could make 2  competitors out of Arnold...


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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #112 on: March 13, 2008, 11:53:44 AM »
Two of the biggest back that night!!!




The best calves Arnold and Chris!!!

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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #113 on: March 13, 2008, 12:01:24 PM »
After 3 years of Zane as the Mr.O, Arnold brought the best shoulder to waist ratio that night!!!

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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #114 on: March 13, 2008, 12:06:50 PM »
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #115 on: March 13, 2008, 12:13:16 PM »
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #117 on: March 13, 2008, 12:20:06 PM »
Nice pictures. Arnold is the clear winner in my book.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #118 on: March 13, 2008, 12:27:04 PM »
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I think I see Vince in the crowd ;D
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #119 on: March 13, 2008, 02:22:03 PM »
The most overlooked contestant
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #120 on: March 13, 2008, 02:55:50 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyVegas on March 11, 2008, 10:56:36 PM
Well, Arnold never said that himself-

That was a reason that some people felt Arnold entered the 1980 O-but that never came out of Arnold's mouth. Many thought that Arnold wanted to teach Mentzer a lesson becuase Mentzer was saying the Arnold's 20 sets per body part was bullshit training. I think this may very well be true= but Arnold has never personally stated that.

The Zane reason is straight from Zanes own mouth-he said that. It was pure speculation on Zane's part-but I know how Arnold thinks, and that is how he thinks (see below).

I KNEW that when Jesse Venture won the Govenorship of MN that Arnold would run for Govenorship of CA sooner or later-to prove he could do what Ventura did.

In the Arnold bio, Fantastic, he is quoted as saying that he it was Mentzer he wanted to shut up and one of the reason for coming out of retirement.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #121 on: March 13, 2008, 03:04:04 PM »
Quote from: HTexan on March 12, 2008, 04:57:19 PM
why did cbs not show it?

Because they believed it was fixed-IMHO.  ::)
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #122 on: March 13, 2008, 03:08:47 PM »
Quote from: pellius on March 13, 2008, 02:55:50 PM
In the Arnold bio, Fantastic, he is quoted as saying that he it was Mentzer he wanted to shut up and one of the reason for coming out of retirement.


I never even knew he had a book called Fantastic!

What page??? Do you know??


Quote from: knny187 on March 13, 2008, 02:22:03 PM
The most overlooked contestant

Roger Walker looked great, and in this pic he goes toe to toe with Arnold on size;

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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #123 on: March 13, 2008, 03:42:36 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyVegas on March 13, 2008, 03:08:47 PM


Roger Walker looked great, and in this pic he goes toe to toe with Arnold on size;



Roger def. had better legs than Arnold
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #124 on: March 13, 2008, 04:13:38 PM »
Quote from: knny187 on March 13, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Roger def. had better legs than Arnold

Shit-WALKER destroys Arnold's legs.

This was the worst Arnies legs ever looked, he should have just stayed home and not caused all this CONTRAVERSY!!!!  ::)
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