B&A International Classic - not NPC approved

[ben 1]

Interesting statement....I didn't realize every competitor in your show gets a car.

No Bob but every competitor gets at least something and has the chance to win a car,motorcycle....
come on Bob you better than that.At least we are not saying "You win a Pro card" when in reality you only win the right to buy one,how cheap is that?
Or we could say "Every competitor wins a car" oh wait no every competitor wins the right to buy a car at our show,how is that?
You are just cheap and now you try to stir up shit because we give so much for the Athletes.


www.internationalclassic slasvegas.com

[Chick]

No Bob but every competitor gets at least something and has the chance to win a car,motorcycle....
come on Bob you better than that.At least we are not saying "You win a Pro card" when in reality you only win the right to buy one,how cheap is that?
Or we could say "Every competitor wins a car" oh wait no every competitor wins the right to buy a car at our show,how is that?
You are just cheap and now you try to stir up shit because we give so much for the Athletes.


www.internationalclassic slasvegas.com

And at the USA, they get a chance to realize their goal of becoming an IFBB pro....Got to honest, bro....I'd have taken the USA title 100 times over a car....I can buy a car, a title you have to earn...

You made the statement trying to be condecending to the NPC USA competitiors...when in reality, you'll have the same percentage of "idiots", that paid you $200 or more, and leave with nothing except a gym bag full of goodies...no different than the NPC.

Just keeping it real, Ben...

[War-Horse]

And at the USA, they get a chance to realize their goal of becoming an IFBB pro....Got to honest, bro....I'd have taken the USA title 100 times over a car....I can buy a car, a title you have to earn...

You made the statement trying to be condecending to the NPC USA competitiors...when in reality, you'll have the same percentage of "idiots", that paid you $200 or more, and leave with nothing except a gym bag full of goodies...no different than the NPC.

Just keeping it real, Ben...

BOB.   Its great to have some other avenues open to the athletes huh!   Your the athletes rep so surely you agree.    Unless your the ifbbs rep.....

[onlyme]

Interesting statement....I didn't realize every competitor in your show gets a car.

Where did you see it says EVERY competitor gets a car.  Chic are getting the IFBB disease.  You start seeing and reading things that aren't there

And at the USA, they get a chance to realize their goal of becoming an IFBB pro....Got to honest, bro....I'd have taken the USA title 100 times over a car....I can buy a car, a title you have to earn...

You made the statement trying to be condecending to the NPC USA competitiors...when in reality, you'll have the same percentage of "idiots", that paid you $200 or more, and leave with nothing except a gym bag full of goodies...no different than the NPC.

Just keeping it real, Ben...

Not to be mean but didn't it take you about 100 times to win that.  And as a pro you have to pay $200 a year membership fee to win nothing.    So, is it the dream of every BB to sacrifice so much and get nothing in return.  I mean you do realize that Ben's show (1st one mind you) is giving away more in money and prizes than the IFBB gives in more than 90% of their contests and they are 50 years old.  I mean really, you would think the IFBB would at least feel like crap knowing they are cheap and have ruined the dreams of more BB's dreaming of making a living as a pro BB than they have helped.  If an amateur BB can make more than 90% of the pros out there while still competing in a BB show then great.  But you have to admit Ben's show sure sounds like it is going to blow away any NPC show for excitement and definitely prizes and also blow away the majority of IFBB shows in both excitement and prizes.

[ibfasport]

And at the USA, they get a chance to realize their goal of becoming an IFBB pro....Got to honest, bro....I'd have taken the USA title 100 times over a car....I can buy a car, a title you have to earn...

You made the statement trying to be condecending to the NPC USA competitiors...when in reality, you'll have the same percentage of "idiots", that paid you $200 or more, and leave with nothing except a gym bag full of goodies...no different than the NPC.

Just keeping it real, Ben...

If Ben contest will be a fiasco, bodybuilding or NPC will have profit?

I don't think so

Ben is work genuinely for the progress of the bodybuilding, in a difficult time for the competitions,

I hope NPC will corrects his position

[Tre]

If Ben contest will be a fiasco, bodybuilding or NPC will have profit?

I don't think so

Ben is work genuinely for the progress of the bodybuilding, in a difficult time for the competitions,

I hope NPC will corrects his position

The NPC doesn't need a 'position' at all relative to this event that has not yet happened. 

B&A: "I'm doing a show in Vegas the same weekend as your USAs."

NPC: "Ok.  Good luck to you.  Let us know if you'd like any information on becoming a part of the NPC in the future." 

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END OF STORY

[ben 1]

And at the USA, they get a chance to realize their goal of becoming an IFBB pro....Got to honest, bro....I'd have taken the USA title 100 times over a car....I can buy a car, a title you have to earn...

You made the statement trying to be condecending to the NPC USA competitiors...when in reality, you'll have the same percentage of "idiots", that paid you $200 or more, and leave with nothing except a gym bag full of goodies...no different than the NPC.

Just keeping it real, Ben...

I know Bob you have to say what you have to say since you are paid by the powers to be.In another thread you came down on me with"get your facts straight" because we are not an Amateur show according to you and your Organization and that Athletes will get banned and stripped of their Amateur status for that reason,when in fact IFBB Amateur Athletes all over the World compete for cash and prizes way over $500 all the time (example www.loadedcup.dk)Your Organization tried to scare every NPC Athlete,so that they stay away from our show!Your Organization has blackmailed all my sponsors and 2 actually turned away for that reason.(I have proof in my email but I will not make it public,at least not right now)Your Organization did also everything in their power to let our Guests know that they will get banned and all that BS if they show up at our competition and you had a little succes with Jeannie since she was planing her come back.Your Organization even called Jay to tell him to stay away from our show.
So here are other facts:
99% of all Amateur Bodybuilders will never turn Pro (even you tried 14 times?)
95% of all Amateur Bodybuilders who turn Pro in the IFBB,will never make a single dollar with Bodybuilding!

We give Amateurs new hope to finally make some money,we have no political BS involved in our show.
I went to the USA many many times and especially when it comes to Women BB and Figure the outcome was most of the time unbelievable.All the people in the audience are stunned by the crap the judges were doing.
I am not fighting with you Bob,you need to say anyway what you need to say,just my 2 cents so
..............keep it real Bob!

www.internationalclassic slasvegas.com

[ibfasport]

The NPC doesn't need a 'position' at all relative to this event that has not yet happened. 

B&A: "I'm doing a show in Vegas the same weekend as your USAs."

NPC: "Ok.  Good luck to you.  Let us know if you'd like any information on becoming a part of the NPC in the future." 

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END OF STORY

is really an end..

if a show promoter loses 50.000$ or more, he cannot organize other competitions in the future

with this politics NPC will reign on the ruins of the bodybuilding

[Chick]

I know Bob you have to say what you have to say since you are paid by the powers to be.In another thread you came down on me with"get your facts straight" because we are not an Amateur show according to you and your Organization and that Athletes will get banned and stripped of their Amateur status for that reason,when in fact IFBB Amateur Athletes all over the World compete for cash and prizes way over $500 all the time (example www.loadedcup.dk)Your Organization tried to scare every NPC Athlete,so that they stay away from our show!Your Organization has blackmailed all my sponsors and 2 actually turned away for that reason.(I have proof in my email but I will not make it public,at least not right now)Your Organization did also everything in their power to let our Guests know that they will get banned and all that BS if they show up at our competition and you had a little succes with Jeannie since she was planing her come back.Your Organization even called Jay to tell him to stay away from our show.
So here are other facts:
99% of all Amateur Bodybuilders will never turn Pro (even you tried 14 times?)
95% of all Amateur Bodybuilders who turn Pro in the IFBB,will never make a single dollar with Bodybuilding!

We give Amateurs new hope to finally make some money,we have no political BS involved in our show.
I went to the USA many many times and especially when it comes to Women BB and Figure the outcome was most of the time unbelievable.All the people in the audience are stunned by the crap the judges were doing.
I am not fighting with you Bob,you need to say anyway what you need to say,just my 2 cents so
..............keep it real Bob!

www.internationalclassic slasvegas.com

Thanks for all that, Ben...but you never addressed the point.

You made a statement to the fact that all these "idiots" as you calld them, will spend $200 on entry fee, etc...and leave with NOTHING. I asked why your show was any different? That unless you're giving a car away to EVERY competitor, you as well will have many "idiots" that pay YOU $200/PLUS and leave with the same "nothing"?

Is that not correct?

[onlyme]

Thanks for all that, Ben...but you never addressed the point.

You made a statement to the fact that all these "idiots" as you calld them, will spend $200 on entry fee, etc...and leave with NOTHING. I asked why your show was any different? That unless you're giving a car away to EVERY competitor, you as well will have many "idiots" that pay YOU $200/PLUS and leave with the same "nothing"?

Is that not correct?

Well then it is just like being an IFBB pro paying his yearly dues and then having to pay more money to enter each contest. 

[Chick]

Well then it is just like being an IFBB pro paying his yearly dues and then having to pay more money to enter each contest. 

There is no entry fee for pro's

[dearth]

bobby,

how convenient you addressed exactly zilch of his many points, including how the ifbb/npc feel the need to threaten his sponsors.

btw - please show me where ben said "every competitor receives a car"?

Thanks for all that, Ben...but you never addressed the point.

You made a statement to the fact that all these "idiots" as you calld them, will spend $200 on entry fee, etc...and leave with NOTHING. I asked why your show was any different? That unless you're giving a car away to EVERY competitor, you as well will have many "idiots" that pay YOU $200/PLUS and leave with the same "nothing"?

Is that not correct?

[Tre]

BTW a lot of poor idiots going to pay over $200 a day earlier and go home with nothing(membership card and registration)at all !

That's not a very nice thing to say...especially if you're hoping that some of those same people might also enter your event, given that they will already be in contest shape and in Vegas.

[JohnnyVegas]

Then I could do the same thing Mahooney did in Police Academy and give the competitors directions to the Blue Oyster where they will be treating to dancing....

Yuu got that because Police Academy was on TV yesterday....and the Blue Oyester Bar (gay) scene was funny as shit 

[Chick]

bobby,

how convenient you addressed exactly zilch of his many points, including how the ifbb/npc feel the need to threaten his sponsors.

btw - please show me where ben said "every competitor receives a car"?

He never addressed mine....

I don't know of any "threatening" that's taken place...

He never said "every competitor receives a car"....that was the point (which you obviously missed). go back and read my first response to him...maybe you'll get it this time.

[dearth]

yes, your great "point" is that you think that he is stating that every competitor receives a car (even though he didn't state that).

yes Bob, I'm sure you would disclose any info you had on the threatening / scare tactics of the NPC

He never addressed mine....

I don't know of any "threatening" that's taken place...

He never said "every competitor receives a car"....that was the point (which you obviously missed). go back and read my first response to him...maybe you'll get it this time.

[Chick]

yes, your great "point" is that you think that he is stating that every competitor receives a car (even though he didn't state that).

yes Bob, I'm sure you would disclose any info you had on the threatening / scare tactics of the NPC

LOL...let me guess..you're 14 years old, right?

English class, kid....get to it.

[dearth]

well spoken, for a GED holder that is.

TOEFL might be a good qualification for you to add to your vast educational background, look into it.

LOL...let me guess..you're 14 years old, right?

English class, kid....get to it.

[JohnnyVegas]

And at the USA, they get a chance to realize their goal of becoming an IFBB pro....

Just keeping it real, Ben...

And do you know what the value is "to realize their goal of becoming an IFBB pro"?

It is a NEGATIVE value-you LOSE money by becoming an IFBB Pro.

The costs to compete as an IFBB Pro are FAR greater than any prize money (almost nonexistant) and endorsement contracts.

Get serious Chick. You are so full of bullshit it fucking amazes me.

[TroubleReady39]

LOL @ Bob defending the company line, once again.

He doesn't care when the compettitors make porn films or go to prison for drug trafficking.

but when another company offers to give away thousands of $ to the compettitors, the day AFTER an NPC show, Bob is ready to melt down.

[JohnnyVegas]

There is no entry fee for pro's

What do YOU call a $200 yearly fee??

Who the fuck makes an athlete member pay MONEY to be a PRO???

No one...wel no one but the fucked up IFBB.

LOL @ Bob defending the company line, once again.

He doesn't care when the compettitors make porn films or go to prison for drug trafficking.

but when another company offers to give away thousands of $ to the compettitors, the day AFTER an NPC show, Bob is ready to melt down.

Bob is a fucking wannabe. He wants to be someone in the IFBB and this is his way to make his bones. Fucking idiot.

[ben 1]

That's not a very nice thing to say...especially if you're hoping that some of those same people might also enter your event, given that they will already be in contest shape and in Vegas.

Hi Tre,if you read it back that was Bob who called him "Idiots" in the first place,I just repeated it,sorry for any misunderstanding here

[Chick]

And do you know what the value is "to realize their goal of becoming an IFBB pro"?

It is a NEGATIVE value-you LOSE money by becoming an IFBB Pro.

The costs to compete as an IFBB Pro are FAR greater than any prize money (almost nonexistant) and endorsement contracts.

Get serious Chick. You are so full of bullshit it fucking amazes me.

Ignorance at it's finest....


Here's a newsflash for you...NO ONE has ever got into pro BB for the money. People get into competitive BB for the challenge and the chance to compete against others...or to achieve a goal...like winning the USA and being the BEST on a given day.

There are plenty like myself who have made quite a nice living from being a pro BB...competing ON STAGE is merely ONE part of being a successful pro...

Of course, you knew that already.

[Chick]

taxes are paid by us for the cars and motorbike,if it goes to oversea there are no taxes and the International Athletes will be really good,BTW a lot of poor idiots going to pay over $200 a day earlier and go home with nothing(membership card and registration)at all !

Is that so, Ben?

Still waiting for an answer to my question I've asked 3 times now....

[timfogarty]

competing ON STAGE is merely ONE part of being a successful pro...

and that sums up the sad state of our sport.