Author Topic: The Jim Manion, IFBB pro belly ban, overall physqiue judging edict? (Read 5084 times)

Meltdown · « **Reply #25 on:** March 30, 2008, 06:05:57 PM »

Its a sport of OPINION all you can hope for is more 1st places given by Fat Bastards sitting at the table in front of you.

WEAPONX · « **Reply #26 on:** March 30, 2008, 06:23:58 PM »

You need mistakes for corrections to be made, I am sure the stomach monsters realize (albeit to late for those sad few) that some of their "supplementation" was wrong and that they look like shit.

But because of their Pioneering of what works and what doesn't work the next generation of Monsters will not make the same mistakes, and be improved beyond anything we have yet to see.

X

MB · « **Reply #27 on:** March 30, 2008, 07:21:33 PM »

The judges are the only ones who can change this standard. It's not true that the audience prefers the mass monsters. The audience sticks with the "sport" in spite of it's judging flaws. A little guy like David Henry hitting a back shot when his conditioning is crisp, is appreciated more than Marcus Ruhl coming out with fat around his lower back and oil in his biceps. If conditioning=aesthetics=mass, how did Jay win the Olympia? It's clear that mass>conditioning>aesthetics in the eyes of the judges.

Meltdown · « **Reply #28 on:** March 30, 2008, 07:24:27 PM »

And just think those judges have all been Pros and know what it takes to be a Pro you only have to look at the Guts on the judges to know why it is the way it is.

HowieW · « **Reply #29 on:** March 30, 2008, 07:47:10 PM »

Quote from: MB on March 30, 2008, 07:21:33 PM

The judges are the only ones who can change this standard. It's not true that the audience prefers the mass monsters. The audience sticks with the "sport" in spite of it's judging flaws. A little guy like David Henry hitting a back shot when his conditioning is crisp, is appreciated more than Marcus Ruhl coming out with fat around his lower back and oil in his biceps. If conditioning=aesthetics=mass, how did Jay win the Olympia? It's clear that mass>conditioning>aesthetics in the eyes of the judges.

THAT is right on pt. But what do you do with a freaky but conditioned to the max guy like Branch Warren>
The judging issue and consistant standard is the really key issue, more so than drugs in my opinion.
Howard

Meltdown · « **Reply #30 on:** March 30, 2008, 08:26:09 PM »

If it is in the IFBB Rule book then we don't worry about it just like Drug use.

The ChemistV2 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 30, 2008, 09:02:02 PM »

Quote from: HowieW on March 30, 2008, 07:47:10 PM

THAT is right on pt. But what do you do with a freaky but conditioned to the max guy like Branch Warren>
The judging issue and consistant standard is the really key issue, more so than drugs in my opinion.
Howard

At least you don't see a lot of photos of Branch Warren with his belly hanging out and he doesn't appear to have delts and bi's full of synthol. He's a little blocky but overall he's pretty damn good.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #32 on:** March 30, 2008, 09:05:52 PM »

Quote from: MB on March 30, 2008, 07:21:33 PM

A little guy like David Henry hitting a back shot when his conditioning is crisp, is appreciated more than Marcus Ruhl coming out with fat around his lower back and oil in his biceps.

Is this really true? When Ruhl comes out you can hear the crowd go RUUUUHHHHLLL

Meltdown · « **Reply #33 on:** March 30, 2008, 09:07:03 PM »

They don't NOW.

sgt. d · « **Reply #34 on:** March 30, 2008, 09:44:24 PM »

Quote from: candidizzle on March 30, 2008, 05:58:01 PM

the last time my arms were under 17 inches i was a freshman in high school.. (although at the time i was fat..still, my point stands)

bullshit

The Coach · « **Reply #35 on:** March 30, 2008, 10:05:40 PM »

Quote from: candidizzle on March 30, 2008, 05:56:47 PM

coach.. its about the most muscular+aesthetic+conditioned physique. and you have to weigh all of the factors against each other. you cant say that zane beats coleman just because zane has no distension..thats ABSURD. the amount of mass and conditioning coleman had over zane clearly outweighs whatever advantage zane had in aesthetics..

^^^^^my opinion... size=conditioning=aesthetics.... some people might say that size>conditioning.aesthetics or the opposit aesthetics>conditioning>size

Ok, I agree, size, conditioning and aesthetics, no one had preached that on here more than me.........BUT the problem is the aesthetics part of that equation is gone. Giving Ronnie a perfect score in the semmetry rounds proved that. BTW, the average person couldn't look like Paris is his life depended on it, near perfect genetics for BBing comes very few times in a lifetime.

The Coach · « **Reply #36 on:** March 30, 2008, 10:08:09 PM »

Quote from: jetpower on March 30, 2008, 01:22:15 PM

Bob Paris is ghey.
Teh Coach likes Bob Paris.

The Coach = Teh Ghey.

ANOTHER freaking gimmick?

You know Ron, I think Getbig is the only BBing board that allows gimmicks, maybe thats why people are starting to move to other boards. There used to be a time when this board was a legit source for info.........ya kinda screwed that up didn't ya?

chaos · « **Reply #37 on:** March 30, 2008, 10:13:28 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on March 30, 2008, 10:08:09 PM

ANOTHER freaking gimmick?

You know Ron, I think Getbig is the only BBing board that allows gimmicks, maybe thats why people are starting to move to other boards. There used to be a time when this board was a legit source for info.........ya kinda screwed that up didn't ya?

Oh geez,

, you going to quit again and come back in three days like nothing ever happened?

jetpower · « **Reply #38 on:** March 30, 2008, 10:18:41 PM »

What is a "gimmick"?

The Coach · « **Reply #39 on:** March 30, 2008, 10:21:27 PM »

Quote from: chaos on March 30, 2008, 10:13:28 PM

Oh geez, , you going to quit again and come back in three days like nothing ever happened?

No...... I'm "notgoingtoquitagainandco mebackintheedayslikenoth ingeverhappend"

!!!!!!!!!

sgt. d · « **Reply #40 on:** March 30, 2008, 10:24:27 PM »

gayer than voting for mccain

polychronopolous · « **Reply #41 on:** March 30, 2008, 10:26:09 PM »

Quote from: jetpower on March 30, 2008, 10:18:41 PM

What is a "gimmick"?

Thats what "The Coach" calls getbiggers that have a higher iq than him (about 99.9%)

The Coach · « **Reply #42 on:** March 30, 2008, 10:28:33 PM »

Quote from: polychronopolous on March 30, 2008, 10:26:09 PM

Thats what "The Coach" calls getbiggers that have a higher iq than him (about 99.9%)

Oh fuck, another gimmick. Coward.

jetpower · « **Reply #43 on:** March 30, 2008, 10:29:35 PM »

Is "The Coach" not a nice person on the board?

polychronopolous · « **Reply #44 on:** March 30, 2008, 10:32:16 PM »

Quote from: jetpower on March 30, 2008, 10:29:35 PM

Is "The Coach" not a nice person on the board?

He's basically the resident "horses ass" and greatest of all the "tiny tits" Give it some time and maybe you'll hear a good story about him consoling his pre pubescent players in the showers after a tough loss.

jetpower · « **Reply #45 on:** March 30, 2008, 10:48:31 PM »

Who is Steve Polychronopolous?

polychronopolous · « **Reply #46 on:** March 30, 2008, 10:50:56 PM »

Quote from: jetpower on March 30, 2008, 10:48:31 PM

Who is Steve Polychronopolous?

just some dude