Did the 'gay lobbyists' hijack Pro Bodybuilding in the early 80's?

[Earl1972]

Thank you, Tim.

Add that to the evidence....

Seriously now, imagine yourselves as a straight man, walking to the cashier and paying for this magazine with its homo erotic cover.......

i admit that cover is homoerotic

but that is just one out of thousands of covers, stop focusing on the one gay cover, gordy

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[Earl1972]

Can you name another sport where the athletes are so frequently photographed wearing daisy dukes? 

Sigh. What guys won't do to score or keep a contract.

gee i don't know maybe because the way other athletes look with their shirts off makes no difference how they perform

do you want to see phil mickelson in daisy dukes?

i don't see how daisy dukes are gay, what makes you think a woman wouldn't be attracted to them?

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[BB]

Are the daisy duke shoots all that different than say:

http://www.alta-glamour.com/cgi-bin/glam/44080.html .

or

http://www.handsomebrothers.com/news/images/muscle.jpg .

or

http://www.timinvermont.com/vintage/previewz035e.html

or

http://www.creativevisionsbooks.com/itmagyoungphysiquev01n02.html



Honestly 95% of bodybuilding magazines have been thinly veiled homoerotic stroke books since the hobby began.

Bob Hoffman's and Peary Rader's magazines were probably the straightest of the bunch, but even then some of  shoots were rather gay, like the "Sword and Sandals" stuff.

We're all fans of a gay sub-culture, we should just get use to it:).

[MikeThaMachine]

Are the daisy duke shoots all that different than say:

http://www.alta-glamour.com/cgi-bin/glam/44080.html .

or

http://www.handsomebrothers.com/news/images/muscle.jpg .

or

http://www.timinvermont.com/vintage/previewz035e.html

or

http://www.creativevisionsbooks.com/itmagyoungphysiquev01n02.html



Honestly 95% of bodybuilding magazines have been thinly veiled homoerotic stroke books since the hobby began.

Bob Hoffman's and Peary Rader's magazines were probably the straightest of the bunch, but even then some of  shoots were rather gay, like the "Sword and Sandals" stuff.

We're all fans of a gay sub-culture, we should just get use to it:).

In the same way a Sears catalog is jack off material for pre-teens...

[BayGBM]

Are the daisy duke shoots all that different than say:

Honestly 95% of bodybuilding magazines have been thinly veiled homoerotic stroke books since the hobby began.

Bob Hoffman's and Peary Rader's magazines were probably the straightest of the bunch, but even then some of  shoots were rather gay, like the "Sword and Sandals" stuff.

We're all fans of a gay sub-culture, we should just get use to it:).

So true... that's some classic stuff!  Didn't realize it was available online.  "...don't miss a single scintillating issue."  I wonder if this is the golden era that Hank Wood had in mind.

Tim Fogarty, are you familiar with these old mags?  They should be linked on muscle memory.

[gordiano]

i admit that cover is homoerotic

but that is just one out of thousands of covers, stop focusing on the one gay cover, gordy

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Earl, my buddy in denial. That is just one cover......I don't know how many others there may be. But what about the pages within the mags? Every bbing mag. They're all over the place.

Earl, I need your opinion on something:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=209194.0

[Earl1972]

Earl, my buddy in denial. That is just one cover......I don't know how many others there may be. But what about the pages within the mags? Every bbing mag. They're all over the place.

Earl, I need your opinion on something:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=209194.0

i don't remember seeing too many pics with bodybuilders covering their genitals with hand towels

or maybe i don't give them a second look like you do

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[gordiano]

i don't remember seeing too many pics with bodybuilders covering their genitals with hand towels

or maybe i don't give them a second look like you do

No, you give them a third, fourth, and a fifth, followed by a good stroke.

E

We're trying to have a serious conversation here, buddy. Keep your fantasies out of it.


As I have said, I was once like you. Signs were there, but I didn't think much of it. Some people just refuse to open their eyes......

[timfogarty]

Are the daisy duke shoots all that different than say: [...]

the examples you give were all considered blue magazines, ie softcore gay porn.   Bodybuilders were often blacklisted or outright banned from the AAU for appearing in them.   Larry Scott was pretty much run out of the AAU (and into the IFBB) for appearing on the cover of Physique Pictorial.

[Earl1972]

We're trying to have a serious conversation here, buddy. Keep your fantasies out of it.


As I have said, I was once like you. Signs were there, but I didn't think much of it. Some people just refuse to open their eyes......

hmm i don't remember saying that...

my eyes are open, you see only what you want to see

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[BB]

the examples you give were all considered blue magazines, ie softcore gay porn.   Bodybuilders were often blacklisted or outright banned from the AAU for appearing in them.   Larry Scott was pretty much run out of the AAU (and into the IFBB) for appearing on the cover of Physique Pictorial.

Alright we can split hairs, but they were representive of majority of publications dealing with physical culture during that time. Offhand, I can think of only 3-4 that actually tried to promote strength, health, and fitness without  playing up the gay angle.

Heck, many of the blue ones were published/handled by Weider.

And it's still common practice today.

 
 

[BayGBM]

Earl, my buddy in denial. That is just one cover......I don't know how many others there may be. But what about the pages within the mags? Every bbing mag. They're all over the place.

Earl, I need your opinion on something:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=209194.0

Many...

[MikeThaMachine]

Many...

That's probably the single gayest cover Flex had and it's from the mid 80's.

[timfogarty]

Alright we can split hairs, but they were representive of majority of publications dealing with physical culture during that time. Offhand, I can think of only 3-4 that actually tried to promote strength, health, and fitness without  playing up the gay angle.

they're different genres with different audiences.  No one who bought Strength and Health or Ironman would have considered Adonis or Physique Pictorial to be a weightlifting,  fitness or physical culture magazine.   Those mags were seen as gay porn.

It's like saying Flex and Colt Magazine are the same.   Or that getbig.com and musclehunks.com are the same.


and btw, I mis-typed above.  I said Larry Scott was blacklisted for appearing on Your Physique, when I meant to say Physique Pictorial.    I corrected it in my posting, but it's still incorrect in your quote.

[BayGBM]

the examples you give were all considered blue magazines, ie softcore gay porn.   Bodybuilders were often blacklisted or outright banned from the AAU for appearing in them.   Larry Scott was pretty much run out of the AAU (and into the IFBB) for appearing on the cover of Physique Pictorial.

Tim, would you say musclegallery.com is the equivalent today of those blue magazines?

It's hard to imagine anyone being banned or blacklisted today because this 'blue' activity is so common.  If you ban one person you end up having to ban so many others there would almost be no one left.  

[timfogarty]

Tim, would you say musclegallery.com is the equivalent today of those blue magazines?

musclegallery is not nearly as scandalous as those blue mags were.   musclehunks with it's j/o videos is even only slightly scandalous.   times have changed.

[MikeThaMachine]

Tim, would you say musclegallery.com is the equivalent today of those blue magazines?

It's hard to imagine anyone being banned or blacklisted today because this 'blue' activity is so common.  If you ban one person you end up having to ban so many others there would almost be no one left.  

99.9% of the guys that do that kind of stuff now are up and comers who either don't have sponsers or never will. It's rare you see any top guys taking that route let alone sticking to it after they become a big name.

[bigdumbbell]

99.9% of the guys that do that kind of stuff now are up and comers who either don't have sponsers or never will. It's rare you see any top guys taking that route let alone sticking to it after they become a big name.

silvio grinds the sofa bed on some video

[BayGBM]

silvio grinds the sofa bed on some video

It would appear that Paco B. knows his audience as well.  The larger point is that these are just the ones in the public sphere.  Like cockroaches, a lot more of this stuff happens where you can't see it.  For everyone one you see, there are quite a bit we won't ever see... but that doesn't mean it's not happening.

But again, none of this is anything new.  It's been happening since the golden era and, in fact, predates it.

[Earl1972]

Many...

two covers aren't exactly "many" and i don't see how these covers are gay

is it the moustache or what?

like i said NUMEROUS TIMES it is only gay if you want it to be gay

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[nycbull]

Many...

I dont see how you can claim the moustache as being only for gay men, and cut off flannels...as I said in a previous post, those styles are not ours to claim, they have been around for many many years before gays were out and about, we may parody them but we cannot claim we invented them...Your gay centric point of view is just as bad as being homophobic.

[INSOMNIA]

It's gone all so horribly wrong! 

I lament the passing of the golden era!

I am filled with sadness as i watch this sport spiral into a gay-abyss!

LOL! 

[GoneAway]

The golden era was never golden; you just didn't know what was going on.   

...Sandow also engaged in what we would today call 'private posing'.  Fork over the cash and you can watch him flex for you in private.  Fork over more cash and you are allowed to touch his muscles.  Fork over even more cash and... well, you get the idea...

that's called making money and keeping fans. theres nothing wrong or sick with private posing. if u think there is, then half the people here are sick human beings, as they go to strip clubs and engage in the exact same thing.

[Victor VonDoom]

that's called making money and keeping fans. theres nothing wrong or sick with private posing. if u think there is, then half the people here are sick human beings, as they go to strip clubs and engage in the exact same thing.

Bah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[timfogarty]

that's called making money and keeping fans. theres nothing wrong or sick with private posing. if u think there is, then half the people here are sick human beings, as they go to strip clubs and engage in the exact same thing.

most gays, let alone most people, have never paid a bodybuilder to be allowed to jack off while the bodybuilder flexes.  that's what private posing means.