Author Topic: WHAT IS REQUIRED TO RESTORE 'CREDIBILITY' TO PRO BODYBUILDING? (Read 8416 times)

New Hank Wood · « **on:** April 11, 2008, 03:08:20 AM »

The sport is in crisis!

We all know it but feel powerless to make change!

Is it possible to restore 'credibility' to a once great and powerful industry?

240 is Back · « **Reply #1 on:** April 11, 2008, 03:15:35 AM »

dude, you're taking it way too seriously. It's been a freakshow since day 1. Enjoy it. Nobody wants to restore credibility to the beaded lady at the circus. People don't want to see average bodybuilders at shows, they want to see monsters. If average physiques sold better, their marketing dept would tell them, and they'd change cover strategies.

Live and let live, brother!

New Hank Wood · « **Reply #2 on:** April 11, 2008, 03:15:41 AM »

Yes, we must start by bringing back the classical physiques.

We must not tolerate the 'pregnant belly' look any longer!

And also, we must restore the 'masculine aspects' of the sport.

NO LONGER should we accept the 'homo-sexualising' of this sport!

Beener · « **Reply #3 on:** April 11, 2008, 03:18:12 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on April 11, 2008, 03:15:35 AM

dude, you're taking it way too seriously. It's been a freakshow since day 1. Enjoy it. Nobody wants to restore credibility to the beaded lady at the circus. People don't want to see average bodybuilders at shows, they want to see monsters. If average physiques sold better, their marketing dept would tell them, and they'd change cover strategies.

Live and let live, brother!

Amen.

Hank, stuff a cock in your mouth and stfu. No one cares. Pro bodybuilding fuckin rules how it is now. When i want to see average physiques i can go to local shows. When i wanna see 300 lb alien freaks, i watch pro bodybiulding.

And what teh fuck is this 'crisis' you're talking about? You sound worse than Gore with his make believe doomsday weather bullshit.

capirnakus · « **Reply #4 on:** April 11, 2008, 03:22:59 AM »

it would need more consistent judging. no favoritism in the major shows. your name or competive history should not win you the trophy. just look at last years olympia. jay deserved it in 06 but in 07 he was beat by at least one competitor and many will argue more. coleman did not deserve to be placed ahead of wolf and that was a obvious gift. wolf wasnt even compaired directly to jay mainly because it would be obvious to so many that he wasnt the best. the fact that every year people have to "earn" the right to be at the top by paying there dues is bullshit. they paid their dues already by having the superior physique. just look at kamali beating wolf in montreal. anything judged by humans is open to error but this is worse than olympic figure skating. give the trophy to the best physique on that day and many of the current fans will be happier.

RZA · « **Reply #5 on:** April 11, 2008, 03:27:31 AM »

Nobody gives a fuck. If you need to see oiled-up guys in thongs hitting poses to get motivated to hit the gym then you have a problem. 99% of guys who workout and who happen to pay some kind of attention to pro-bodybuilding are well aware of what this "sport" called competitive bodybuilding is: a chemical adventure which went horribly wrong but is still fun to watch. Whatever and whoever hits that stage is not going to change a thing about me working out.

Ruffneck · « **Reply #6 on:** April 11, 2008, 04:19:56 AM »

Having some bodybuilders who have charisma and personality would help maybe.

Sharma · « **Reply #7 on:** April 11, 2008, 04:23:05 AM »

No more corruption. Best body should win. Look at Nasser he good enough body to win two mr O but they give it to a convicted burglar and supposedly reformed racist with torn muscles and a disgusting, vomit inducing stomach.

Its a fix

Monster81 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 11, 2008, 04:32:56 AM »

Quote from: hank wood on April 11, 2008, 03:15:41 AM

Yes, we must start by bringing back the classical physiques.

We must not tolerate the 'pregnant belly' look any longer!

And also, we must restore the 'masculine aspects' of the sport.

NO LONGER should we accept the 'homo-sexualising' of this sport!

yes, and they need to ban idiots like Tamali, Kai and will Haris from gaying and dancing on stage or playing stupid music that even makes it worse.
compare posing routines of the 70s with the current stupid posings,it has gone too far.
the IFBB need to set strict rules for posing onstage,

Sharma · « **Reply #9 on:** April 11, 2008, 04:37:57 AM »

Shari has been great for the sport. You'd all kill to look like him. The fact he is Persian seems to weigh against him with the ignorant racists.I also gather that Shari is not impressed with 'monster81' physique at all.

Ruffneck · « **Reply #10 on:** April 11, 2008, 04:52:06 AM »

Fuck off with that shit Sharma - Kamali is an average bodybuilder at best who made his mouth more famous than his physique. Problem was when it game to game time Kamali folded like a origami world champion which in turn made him look like a fucking clown. Had nothing about him being persian but more to do with him being a very very average bodybuilder with a very very big mouth that had no substance.

Meso_z · « **Reply #11 on:** April 11, 2008, 04:57:30 AM »

Quote from: Monster81 on April 11, 2008, 04:32:56 AM

yes, and they need to ban idiots like Tamali, Kai and will Haris from gaying and dancing on stage or playing stupid music that even makes it worse.
compare posing routines of the 70s with the current stupid posings,it has gone too far.
the IFBB need to set strict rules for posing onstage,

Agreed. stupid gay dancing should be banned, only true artistic posing should be allowed (maybe a LITTLE dance just for entertainment).

If anyone like will harris dances again like that at the Olympia, he should be banned from ifbb. It makes the best bb show look like a circus. shame.

New Hank Wood · « **Reply #12 on:** April 11, 2008, 05:10:54 AM »

Rewriting the 'code of conduct' would be helpful.

Setting out an ammended 'legal framework' and then enforcing it; would be very helpful.

Consistency.

Punishment fitting the crime?

Look, the sport is in tatters. At this point, almost anything that deals with the corruption, dealing and judging-double-standards would be a step in the right direction.

GoneAway · « **Reply #13 on:** April 11, 2008, 05:31:57 AM »

Quote from: capirnakus on April 11, 2008, 03:22:59 AM

give the trophy to the best physique on that day and many of the current fans will be happier.

simply give the title to dexter jackson or dennis wolf. case closed. jay doesnt deserve it anymore. the guy with the biggest back should not automatically be gifted the title. thats not how bbing works.

Monster81 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 11, 2008, 05:34:33 AM »

Quote from: Sharma on April 11, 2008, 04:37:57 AM

Shari has been great for the sport. You'd all kill to look like him. The fact he is Persian seems to weigh against him with the ignorant racists.I also gather that Shari is not impressed with 'monster81' physique at all.

lol ,,sure wer dying to look like tamali

MCWAY · « **Reply #15 on:** April 11, 2008, 05:41:13 AM »

In my view, it isn't about judging, mass vs. aesthetics, or even anabolics.

The perception that bodybuilding has to overcome is that bodybuilders are just "mirror athletes" (i.e. they do NOTHING with their big muscles).

Training doesn't count, as virtually every major sport/athletic endeavor (baseball, football, basketball, pro wrestling, etc.) trains with weights. Bodybuilders must do something with those massive physiques, BESIDES pose and flex.

Croatch · « **Reply #16 on:** April 11, 2008, 06:02:22 AM »

Quote from: Beener on April 11, 2008, 03:18:12 AM

Amen.

Hank, stuff a cock in your mouth and stfu. No one cares. Pro bodybuilding fuckin rules how it is now. When i want to see average physiques i can go to local shows. When i wanna see 300 lb alien freaks, i watch pro bodybiulding.

And what teh fuck is this 'crisis' you're talking about? You sound worse than Gore with his make believe doomsday weather bullshit.

bwhahaha. Especially on the Al Gore comment.

Gore is a serious douchebag and yes, his girl of a wife too.

titusisback · « **Reply #17 on:** April 11, 2008, 06:19:45 AM »

we could start by leaving grapefruits alone...

Vince B · « **Reply #18 on:** April 11, 2008, 06:39:56 AM »

Quote from: capirnakus on April 11, 2008, 03:22:59 AM

it would need more consistent judging. no favoritism in the major shows. your name or competive history should not win you the trophy. just look at last years olympia. jay deserved it in 06 but in 07 he was beat by at least one competitor and many will argue more. coleman did not deserve to be placed ahead of wolf and that was a obvious gift. wolf wasnt even compaired directly to jay mainly because it would be obvious to so many that he wasnt the best. the fact that every year people have to "earn" the right to be at the top by paying there dues is bullshit. they paid their dues already by having the superior physique. just look at kamali beating wolf in montreal. anything judged by humans is open to error but this is worse than olympic figure skating. give the trophy to the best physique on that day and many of the current fans will be happier.

I agree. Add the travesty when Bob was given the gift of beating Rusty Jeffers. Again, no comparison with Bob. Sounds like Montreal and the Olympia re Wolf. You make a strong case that the IFBB stops some people from winning or placing higher. In a word, it is bullshit.

TrueGrit · « **Reply #19 on:** April 11, 2008, 06:44:31 AM »

Seriously?

A reintroduction of old fashioned trunks that were thicker and covered the whole area - none of this thong stuff and folding the trunks into the asscrack.

Genuine penalties for guts.

Disqualification for any proven g4p activities.

Less bald black guys. (I have nothing against them, just that they all look so similar)

BayGBM · « **Reply #20 on:** April 11, 2008, 07:35:08 AM »

Quote from: RZA on April 11, 2008, 03:27:31 AM

Nobody gives a fuck. If you need to see oiled-up guys in thongs hitting poses to get motivated to hit the gym then you have a problem. 99% of guys who workout and who happen to pay some kind of attention to pro-bodybuilding are well aware of what this "sport" called competitive bodybuilding is: a chemical adventure which went horribly wrong but is still fun to watch. Whatever and whoever hits that stage is not going to change a thing about me working out.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

MB · « **Reply #21 on:** April 11, 2008, 07:35:08 AM »

1. The IFBB running its own shows.
2. The Olympia judged only by former Mr. Olympia winners.
3. Olympia qualifications are earned each year by winning a pro show and everyone must requalify.

RZA · « **Reply #22 on:** April 11, 2008, 07:38:55 AM »

Quote from: TrueGrit on April 11, 2008, 06:44:31 AM

Seriously?

A reintroduction of old fashioned trunks that were thicker and covered the whole area - none of this thong stuff and folding the trunks into the asscrack.

Genuine penalties for guts.

Disqualification for any proven g4p activities.

Less bald black guys. (I have nothing against them, just that they all look so similar)

Easy stud with the bald black guy stuff! Those guys have serious hairline issues with all that Decca, D-Bol, Winstrol, etc...Cut them some slack. Half-bald and mohawks are damn ugly, specially on black dudes. Remember Mr.T? Do you really wanna see this again?

anvil · « **Reply #23 on:** April 11, 2008, 08:30:20 AM »

Quote from: TrueGrit on April 11, 2008, 06:44:31 AM

Less bald black guys. (I have nothing against them, just that they all look so similar)

No kidding, power rod was right when he said the Mr. Olympia lineup looks like a slave auction

ILuvPriest · « **Reply #24 on:** April 11, 2008, 09:44:02 AM »

Shooting everyone onstage that looks as if they are about to give birth. Screw penalizing them. Banning a bb that appears in a porn mag/video for life.
No more thongs onstage, christ...that shit is just disgusting. And less fake boobs on the female competitors. Or at least have a restricted cup size...hell, if I want to see some dried up prune with huge ass tits I would go visit my grandma