WHAT IS REQUIRED TO RESTORE 'CREDIBILITY' TO PRO BODYBUILDING?

[New Hank Wood]

Yes, the fans are 'threatened' by allegations that the sport has its 'roots deeply implanted' within the gay community.

The fans don't like to be reminded of this ugly truth.  They see it as an attack on their 'own' sexuality. 

Pro Bodybuilding is a 'latent sexual man's fantasy exhibition', now that is obvious.  The real issue is; why do the fans have such a problem acknowledging this paradigm?

If you are a fan of this sport, don't run and hide!  Stand up and be counted!

You should not be intimidated by the fact that you enjoy watching 'men in thongs, shaking ass, prancing around on a stage!' 

For Christ sake, grow some balls and shout to the world, '' I love the overt-gayness that is Pro Bodybuilding.''

[GoneAway]

Yes, the fans are 'threatened' by allegations that the sport has its 'roots deeply implanted' within the gay community.

The fans don't like to be reminded of this ugly truth.  They see it as an attack on their 'own' sexuality. 

Pro Bodybuilding is a 'latent sexual man's fantasy exhibition', now that is obvious.  The real issue is; why do the fans have such a problem acknowledging this paradigm?

If you are a fan of this sport, don't run and hide!  Stand up and be counted!

You should not be intimidated by the fact that you enjoy watching 'men in thongs, shaking ass, prancing around on a stage!' 

For Christ sake, grow some balls and shout to the world, '' I love the overt-gayness that is Pro Bodybuilding.''

as much as you talk, is as little as you actually know about the TRUE fans.

1. I'm not threatened at all by allegations that the sport has roots in gay community, as that much is obvious. it's a schmoe's paradise and schmoe's are some of the big money-makers in the industry.

2. it's not an attack on my own sexuality at all. i'm comfortable with the gayness, as if they want to show themselves off like that, it's their choice.

3. as above, I acknowledge that some of the bbers are gay themselves, and almost all of them are viewed as sex symbols by the gay community. that's only natural.

4. I AM a fan of the sport, and i'm NOT hiding at all.

5. I may not want the sport to continue its more homosexual side, but I love the competition, the training and the lifestyle, and if they want to wear thongs and prance around, good for them.

[New Hank Wood]

Whoa, easy on there.  I am simply pointing out the realities of this sordid industry.

You can rationalize your 'love' of the sport anyway you want to...If that's what makes you feel better about yourself.

Bottom line, if you enjoy  a sport that is centered around the viewing of 'near naked oiled up men in thongs' then good for you.  Just don't try and find ways to 'duck and weave' this obvious homo-erotic fascination.

Be true to yourself.  I am not attacking your innate-latent-homosexuality!

[GoneAway]

if you read my post, you'd see i'm not ducking and weaving those comments. infact, i agree about some of them. but seeing the entire sport as a whole as one big gay strip-tease show, is what i disagree with. but you're entitled to your own view on the sport.

[HTexan]

Whoa, easy on there.  I am simply pointing out the realities of this sordid industry.

You can rationalize your 'love' of the sport anyway you want to...If that's what makes you feel better about yourself.

Bottom line, if you enjoy  a sport that is centered around the viewing of 'near naked oiled up men in thongs' then good for you.  Just don't try and find ways to 'duck and weave' this obvious homo-erotic fascination.

Be true to yourself.  I am not attacking your innate-latent-homosexuality!

1.) do you like watching bodybuilding?

2.) how much sport team's were you on, past the age of 12?

[New Hank Wood]

Yes, a very predictable defense mechanism; diverting the attention from the obvious difficulty of acknowleging your underlying homo-erotic-fixations.

I am not attacking the qualities that make you a man. 

[HTexan]

Yes, a very predictable defense mechanism; diverting the attention from the obvious difficulty of acknowleging your underlying homo-erotic-fixations.

I am not attacking the qualities that make you a man. 

1.) do you like watching bodybuilding?

2.) how much sport team's were you on, past the age of 12?

[timfogarty]

3. as above, I acknowledge that some of the bbers are gay themselves, and almost all of them are viewed as sex symbols by the gay community. that's only natural.

Rusty Jeffers is the only current bodybuilder recognized by the gay community, and that's because he was a gay icon long before he became a competition bodybuilder.   yet, he's straight.  married with a grown daughter.

Will Harris is not viewed as a sex symbol.   Nor is Kai Greene.

Like with the straight community, most gays know nothing of competition bodybuilding.  most would see it as a freak show, just like the straight community.

[GoneAway]

Rusty Jeffers is the only current bodybuilder recognized by the gay community, and that's because he was a gay icon long before he became a competition bodybuilder.   yet, he's straight.  married with a grown daughter.

Will Harris is not viewed as a sex symbol.   Nor is Kai Greene.

Like with the straight community, most gays know nothing of competition bodybuilding.  most would see it as a freak show, just like the straight community.

yes, very true. i knew that statement would probably be incorrect, but with many gay icons being quite muscely and the success of sites like musclegallery, i thought it would also equate to pros. someone said the pros were more idolised in the 80's. it may have been you, Tim, but i'm sure you would agree with that statement anyway.

[timfogarty]

However, the ticket sales are up ( record # at the arnold this yr) .

The NOC was in a 5000 seat theater, now the NY Pro is in a 1300 seat community college auditorium.   The Ironman use to be in a 4000 seat theater, now in a convention center side room with 1200 folding chairs.   the Colorado pro and Keystone played to empty houses.   Toronto gone, Montreal gone,  Bay area (sf/sj/sac) gone.   No shows in Europe.

[bigdumbbell]

hank wood ...the dr laura of bodybuilding   

[Chick]

The NOC was in a 5000 seat theater, now the NY Pro is in a 1300 seat community college auditorium.   The Ironman use to be in a 4000 seat theater, now in a convention center side room with 1200 folding chairs.   the Colorado pro and Keystone played to empty houses.   Toronto gone, Montreal gone,  Bay area (sf/sj/sac) gone.   No shows in Europe.

Nice spin... the NOC never had 5,000 people at it, the Ironman never had 4,000 people at it...some shows are gone, new one's take their place (Houston Pro, Tampa Pro, AC Pro, 202 classes at 4 shows including the Olympia...3 shows in Europe being developed and added to the schedule for this year.

[bigdumbbell]

Nice spin... the NOC never had 5,000 people at it, the Ironman never had 4,000 people at it...some shows are gone, new one's take their place (Houston Pro, Tampa Pro, AC Pro, 202 classes at 4 shows including the Olympia...3 shows in Europe being developed and added to the schedule for this year.

the beacon has a 4800 capacity   oh brother

[timfogarty]

the beacon has a 4800 capacity   oh brother

and sold out both prejudging and finals.   

[Dr Kincaid]

Hank don't overly concern yourself with this stuff. You sound like your worried sick.
Let it go. Anywho I am sure there will be no IFBB within 4 years.
Obviously no money in it. Nothing can be done. It's over, get on with your life, Menzer has.

[New Hank Wood]

Yes, many feel that the IFBB's monopoly  on the sport is coming to an end.  Quite frankly i dont think many would be sad if the IFBB was to fold.

[HTexan]

Yes, many feel that the IFBB's monopoly  on the sport is coming to an end.  Quite frankly i dont think many would be sad if the IFBB was to fold.

1.) do you like watching bodybuilding?

2.) how much sport team's were you on, past the age of 12?

[The Squadfather]

1.) do you like watching bodybuilding?

2.) how much sport team's were you on, past the age of 12?

he was captain of the Chess Club 4 years running.

[Meltdown]

Hank it sounds as if you may have already started the fire into Drug use and Abuse in IFBB Pro competition.The one reason media will go near it is because Arnold still has some involvement.IFBB Drug test= No Fukin Drug test.