Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!

[Meltdown]

Vince what do you mean older guys Don't you mean all guys using Banned substances as per IFBB Drug Rule.

[New Hank Wood]

If there was an attempted hit on Vince at least he will have his foot in the door of Media outlets.Not the best way to get attention but whatever works.Vince has no fear of the Truth.

Hahhaha.  Vince taking a bullet from one of Paul's henchmen.  The media would have a field day...NOT !

Imagine the headline: A former MR. Canada and x-steroid user is slain by an IFBB official for speaking out about  corruption and drug abuse.

[Chick]

Okay, Bob, come clean. I have to be simple and direct here.

Have you sent a proposal about drug testing to the professional committee on behalf of yourself? Surely you would prefer to compete drug free and not have to worry about side effects and future poor health. I find it rather sad that older guys are using steroids to compete in bodybuilding contests.

"The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few...or the one"

-spock

[Meltdown]

Isn't it all about Genetics with IFBB Pro card holders Bob you said Drugs had very little to do with it.So why not act on the Drug Rule the IFBB have written.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Chick]

Isn't it all about Genetics with IFBB Pro card holders Bob you said Drugs had very little to do with it.So why not act on the Drug Rule the IFBB have written.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

The IFBB can "act on it" anytime they see fit. Like Bobby Brown...it's their perrogative

[Meltdown]

Yes and that is my point Any Fukin time they choose well if it's in the IFBB Rule book they have the upper hand to use it when they want to use it.Fukin scandal.

[Vince B]

Bob, stop the crap and confess you accept drugs because you needed them to compete and win. Simple as that. Therefore, you acknowledge that others have the same right to use those drugs as you did.

Bob, you really are a confederate but against the bodybuilders. You bravely accept the appointed rep's position knowing you join the insiders who run the sport. Don't tell me Steve W is on that committee of stooges? You could care less about bodybuilding or the health of the athletes. You were told the IFBB can't do testing because the fans would stop going to shows. The truth is the IFBB can't risk another federation holding open contests if all the IFBB shows were drug free. Ah, the same old fear must be a platform in the IFBB.

The IFBB recruits guys who aren't too bright but who are loyal to the death for being part of the team that has power. They sell their independence and rubber stamp everything that Manion proposes. He lets them propose small changes and everyone is happy. What a bunch of patsies.

They have a duty and obligation to enforce those rules. It isn't about a prerogative.

[Chick]

Bob, stop the crap and confess you accept drugs because you needed them to compete and win. Simple as that. Therefore, you acknowledge that others have the same right to use those drugs as you did.

Bob, you really are a confederate but against the bodybuilders. You bravely accept the appointed rep's position knowing you join the insiders who run the sport. Don't tell me Steve W is on that committee of stooges? You could care less about bodybuilding or the health of the athletes. You were told the IFBB can't do testing because the fans would stop going to shows. The truth is the IFBB can't risk another federation holding open contests if all the IFBB shows were drug free. Ah, the same old fear must be a platform in the IFBB.

The IFBB recruits guys who aren't too bright but who are loyal to the death for being part of the team that has power. They sell their independence and rubber stamp everything that Manion proposes. He lets them propose small changes and everyone is happy. What a bunch of patsies.

They have a duty and obligation to enforce those rules. It isn't about a prerogative.

You're talking gibberish again, Basile...The athletes can care about their own health, and make their own decisions, justv like they do in every other pro sport. No one forces anyone to join the club, or to engage in using anything they don't want to....

I still have yet to see one single well thought out idea come from your bizzare mind on just how BB would suddenly become accepted and embraced if it were drug tested....even though we have numerous drug tested shows and federations out there who routinely struggle to put 100 asses in the seats, and is even LESS accepted in the BB world (or any other)...

[Meltdown]

Vince take you story and facts to the Media mention Arnold,Drugs,IFBB,No Drug testing,Rewards for those who Abuse Drugs,and the deaths and sickness in the sport,oh and tell them about the Synthol use,Criminal charges,Drug dealing,Selling Fake Drugs and the like,Not paying Tax on Pro shows.Must we go on.Vince you know all this and more.It only takes one man to make a change.

[Chick]

Vince take you story and facts to the Media mention Arnold,Drugs,IFBB,No Drug testing,Rewards for those who Abuse Drugs,and the deaths and sickness in the sport,oh and tell them about the Synthol use,Criminal charges,Drug dealing,Selling Fake Drugs and the like,Not paying Tax on Pro shows.Must we go on.Vince you know all this and more.It only takes one man to make a change.

He don't know shit, bro...he competed 38 YEARS AGO.

YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME...

[Meltdown]

So Bob are you saying none of that is true and Vince is an Idiot??

[onlyme]

YOu guys are funny when you say the IFBB has a rule to test for drugs.  Has anyone seen the list of drugs they test for.  Bob please post ALL the drugs the IFBB tests for when they even do any testing.  Everyone hold on to your laughing till after they are listed.

[Meltdown]

That's the point it is laughable that's why they the IFBB should DELETE the Fukin Drug Rule.The only reason Bob says it's there is for the image of doing something to stop Drug use in sport.That's as Funny as having the Fukin Rule.

[Moosejay]

"The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few...or the one"

-spock

or

"for the good of the many, the few must suffer..."

-Patton

[candidizzle]

He don't know shit, bro...he competed 38 YEARS AGO.

YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME...

bob kickin it gangsta and layin it down like an OG

 

 hows the golf game going big man..got a handicap?

[G o a t b o y]

"for the good of the many, the few must suffer..."

-Patton

Sounds like sound reasoning if you happen to be one of the "many".  If you're one of the "few", I think you'd rightly take issue with that line of thought.

[Moosejay]

Sounds like sound reasoning if you happen to be one of the "many".  If you're one of the "few", I think you'd rightly take issue with that line of thought.

Sure...but many of valor put themselves in such positions of sacrifice because doing such has made our country what it is today.

The "few" do not necessarily have to be victims.  The statement does not intimate that the small numebr are persecuted.

[dearth]

Again,

a drug user justifying his occupational criminal activities.

Again...both happen in all sports.

[Chick]

Again,

a drug user justifying his occupational criminal activities.

Again, I don't have any criminal activities...never have.

Again, you show you're a moron.

Again, you bring nothing of any value to a thread.

[dearth]

Assuming you consider yourself part of "everyone with a brain",

Do you think the continued use of illegal steroids is somehow good for the sport?
Are you actually proud to lie to everyone everyday about your lifestyle?
Is all of your family aware of your illegal drug use?

I do represent the athletes, and whats in their best interests...in effect, I echo their sentiments and concerns, etc. To date a grand total of ZERO athletes have expressed an interest in bringing this to the table. I've had countless conversations with them, with oficials, etc...I have yet to hear of one requests to insist that testing be mandatory.

Whats in the best interest of the sport, is NOT testing.

Everyone with a brain seems to get it, no surprise you don't.

Thinking that instituting drug testing will actually INCREASE interest and attendance, only shows me you are all the things I lable you....clueles, out of touch and delusional.

[Chick]

Assuming you consider yourself part of "everyone with a brain",

Do you think the continued use of illegal steroids is somehow good for the sport?
Are you actually proud to lie to everyone everyday about your lifestyle?
Is all of your family aware of your illegal drug use?

It's as good for BB as it is for any other sport..

Don't have to lie to anyone, why would I?

I have no illegal drug use.

You're still a moron

[G o a t b o y]

The "few" do not necessarily have to be victims.  The statement does not intimate that the small numebr are persecuted.

Provided the "few" are volunteers, that's fine.  It's when they're not that an ethical problem arises.

[knny187]

The IFBB should ban steroid use.....

unless you're using 2 dbol tablets a day

 

[Chick]

The IFBB should ban steroid use.....

unless you're using 2 dbol tablets a day

 

That's the beauty of Basile and his ramblings..do as I say, not as I did. 

[wes]

I think everyone should up their dosages!

Imagine Basile on 3 pills a day?