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Re: Bob Chic vs Vince Basille
« Reply #450 on: April 23, 2008, 04:19:34 PM »
The problem with Vince is that he is long winded.

Besides that he like Lee and Goodrum love the attention/notoriety that their posts and threads generate. Basille claims that he hates posting here yet he's on every day.

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #451 on: April 23, 2008, 04:20:41 PM »
Below is a photo of steroid user from the 1970's.

Thanks to men like him (they normalised the use these drugs), we have a culture of widespread substance-abuse today!

Thankyou Basile, you supported drug abuse and paved the way for today's mass monsters.


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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #452 on: April 23, 2008, 04:22:59 PM »
i will not !  

the better i look, the worse i look ! get it?

probably not..   its hard to explain.




It would actually be pretty interesting to see how you look now.

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #453 on: April 23, 2008, 04:29:24 PM »
Listen to all the anger pouring out of Hank Wood. He is lucky he has a forum where he can release his pent up emotions on hapless members here. One day Hank is praising you and the next he is blasting you. 

Vince, i 'praised you' for wearing 'your heart on your sleeve'.  I do not regress from that statement.

Vince, i dont hate you!  I think you have put some good arguments forward to save bodybuilding.  However, talk is cheap.  You must act! 

Q.  What will you do to practically usher in change? Contact media? Contact politicians? What is it going to be?

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Re: Bob Chic vs Vince Basille
« Reply #454 on: April 23, 2008, 04:33:27 PM »
Participating in an open forum where most are anonymous is a challenge. It is also why few champions post here or remain here. I am having a go and so is everyone else. Goodrum has every right to be here and I admire his persistence. If he put that into training he should make some improvements. In the end it hardly matters what we look like. Very few here will win a national title. Many here are highly educated and come here for a laugh and aren't disappointed. I take note if these guys post something serious because it means something. The dickheads can post all they want and most I do not reply to. Some I never reply to.

I don't need others to tell me I am smart or stupid. If a person doesn't know that by 65 he never will. I do know when I see ignorance and foolishness. There is plenty of that around here. The fact that some ignorant people find support is a worry but understandable when you factor in the shit-stirring that goes on endlessly here.

Bob Chick has done very well out of bodybuilding. He hardly needs anyone to criticize him or needle him about embarrassing things. However, he accepted a position in the IFBB supposedly to represent professional bodybuilders so he is a target for concerns such as banned drugs. His position re those drugs is untenable and thus he is on the back foot defending himself in a losing situation. I know he has to do what he does here on Getbig but he is burying bodybuilding deeper into oblivion by trying to defend the indefensible.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #455 on: April 23, 2008, 04:35:19 PM »
Yes Vince take a stand and go down in History as the Man who changed Pro BB.If you feel half as much as you type tell us what you are doing to get this Drug Abuse and destruction of everyday health in BBs.If the IFBB won't act then YOU act Vince.The Media is waiting for your Arnold story FFS you have even had dinner with the guy.They will eat it up Vince.It only takes one man to make a change.

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Re: Bob Chic vs Vince Basille
« Reply #456 on: April 23, 2008, 04:35:55 PM »
hahahhaa, i don't know what Vince is trying to prove posting pictures of a guy who looks approx. 10 million times better than he ever has, epic self owning.

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #457 on: April 23, 2008, 04:58:40 PM »
Meltdown, i too am concerned about the route Pro Bodybuilding is taking.  I too find the IFBB-drug-code to be ludicrous, benign and illogical.

Basile, doesn't have the balls nor functional repertoire to bring about change!

Basile wont answer the questions levelled at him.  He is a spineless and hapless, devoid of any creative solutions! 

Basile likes to think of himself as a kind of bodybuilding historian/philosopher.  However, this self styled 'thinking man' does not have an original idea nor a constructive ideal!

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #458 on: April 23, 2008, 05:29:57 PM »
I don't consider myself a philosopher but I have always admired great thinkers. I am a student of ethics and the philosophy of science.

I have wondered about what to do to make a change. I have looked at the DEA site in America and wondered if something can be done there. What bothers me about that is steroids are in a totally different class to the mind altering drugs that are illegal such as cocaine and heroin. The DEA has no right to enforce silly legislation against people who want more muscle. Well, they have a duty to enforce the law but obviously they are doing very little re steroids.

The legal road would be an expensive one. I was wondering if some government body might support a challenge. There is no way an individual can afford to challenge the IFBB. Not with the Weider fortune behind them. Not that Ben or Joe would want to spend anything if they didn't have to!

I thought about the media and wondered who out there would want to take this torch and support the campaign. A politician might want to get exposure for helping to clean up a sport. The trouble is most people don't want to be associated with bodybuilding and brawy guys. It is a big ask.

I hesitate because I am not that informed about the actual drug use by the pros. I never talk to bodybuilders about drugs. When Ray Mentzer was living at my place I never asked him what he took. I can't speak as an informed authority about the depth of what is going on. In this thread Bob is keeping us in the dark. I can't rely on information posted by gh15. Unless I have a candid pro onside I really can't say I know what I am talking about. It is one thing to say that guys are using this and that but another to actually know it and have proof. If the press interviewed a guy like Bob he could easily convince them that I knew nothing about what the pros are doing.


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Re: Bob Chic vs Vince Basille
« Reply #459 on: April 23, 2008, 05:36:47 PM »
The point I am making is that perhaps others can enjoy the success that Bob has if they go the chemical route.

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Re: Bob Chic vs Vince Basille
« Reply #460 on: April 23, 2008, 05:43:21 PM »
The point I am making is that perhaps others can enjoy the success that Bob has if they go the chemical route.
How was the 2 hour route to newcastle, to go to a funeral your were not invited to with camera in hand?

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #461 on: April 23, 2008, 05:44:35 PM »
Vince it has nothing to do with what the IFBB Pros are doing and more to do with the FACT that Arnold the Governor Runs a BB show that REWARDS BLATANT Drug use and Abuse by not testing you don't have to be Einstein to know the Pros ABUSE Drugs and Banned substances.It's the fact that you have a Sport org like the IFBB who have Drug Rule but choose to NEVER ENFORCE them.There is you Media story right there Fuk Global warming Arnold rewards Drug Abuse by not testing at his show.

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Re: Bob Chic vs Vince Basille
« Reply #462 on: April 23, 2008, 05:47:46 PM »
The point I am making is that perhaps others can enjoy the success that Bob has if they go the chemical route.


Bob doesn't need chemicals to win!  He doesn't even need to have the best physique on the stage.  All that's required is his Bodybuilding.com sponsorship and his time spent as Manion's puppet buddy.   :D
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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #463 on: April 23, 2008, 05:52:53 PM »
I don't consider myself a philosopher but I have always admired great thinkers. I am a student of ethics and the philosophy of science.

I have wondered about what to do to make a change. I have looked at the DEA site in America and wondered if something can be done there. What bothers me about that is steroids are in a totally different class to the mind altering drugs that are illegal such as cocaine and heroin. The DEA has no right to enforce silly legislation against people who want more muscle. Well, they have a duty to enforce the law but obviously they are doing very little re steroids.

The legal road would be an expensive one. I was wondering if some government body might support a challenge. There is no way an individual can afford to challenge the IFBB. Not with the Weider fortune behind them. Not that Ben or Joe would want to spend anything if they didn't have to!

I thought about the media and wondered who out there would want to take this torch and support the campaign. A politician might want to get exposure for helping to clean up a sport. The trouble is most people don't want to be associated with bodybuilding and brawy guys. It is a big ask.

I hesitate because I am not that informed about the actual drug use by the pros. I never talk to bodybuilders about drugs. When Ray Mentzer was living at my place I never asked him what he took. I can't speak as an informed authority about the depth of what is going on. In this thread Bob is keeping us in the dark. I can't rely on information posted by gh15. Unless I have a candid pro onside I really can't say I know what I am talking about. It is one thing to say that guys are using this and that but another to actually know it and have proof. If the press interviewed a guy like Bob he could easily convince them that I knew nothing about what the pros are doing.



I don't agree, a drug is a drug!

Addiction is addiction; it is real and destructive! I can't believe you would say that?

Steroids, like cocaine are addictive.  Athletes talk about the rush they feel, and the subsequent euphoria, after they have 'shotten' up gear!

A steroid  user will suffer similar side effects to that of a recreational drug user; mood swings, hormonal changes and organ damage.  

Athletes who use steroids oftern talk about the 'window' being left open to 'investigate and use' other recreational drugs.

Many would agree that if you are going the route of sticking needles in your butt then using 'other drugs' is not that much of an issue!

-Vince, your idea of a DEA probe is a good one.  Imagine if the DEA showed up at every Pro Event and started harassing the participants; the confidence and credibility of the sport would disappear overnight!


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Re: Bob Chic vs Vince Basille
« Reply #464 on: April 23, 2008, 05:55:05 PM »
The point I am making is that perhaps others can enjoy the success that Bob has if they go the chemical route.

So what... To use or not to use is an individual choice... Kind of like you being way-out-of-shape. That fact is plenty of individuals take AS and not many look like Bob. The fact is AS are a part of the overal program but genetics, hard training, diet and drive are still much more improtant....

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #465 on: April 23, 2008, 05:57:31 PM »
How on earth can Arnold have a contest in his name and attend and speak there and it not be drug tested? Only in America. Corruption exists and mates help each other. There is no other explanation why professional bodybuilding is not tested. If Arnold wasn't high up in the conservative government I doubt the DEA would be so lax. Imagine if the DEA showed up and everyone had to be tested! It would end professional bodybuilding in one hit. Everyone disqualified and the IFBB deregistered as an organization.

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #466 on: April 23, 2008, 06:00:00 PM »
I don't agree, a drug is a drug!

Addiction is addiction; it is real and destructive! I can't believe you would say that?

Steroids, like cocaine are addictive.  Athletes talk about the rush they feel, and the subsequent euphoria, after they have 'shotten' up gear!

A steroid  user will suffer similar side effects to that of a recreational drug user; mood swings, hormonal changes and organ damage.  

Athletes who use steroids oftern talk about the 'window' being left open to 'investigate and use' other recreational drugs.

Many would agree that if you are going the route of sticking needles in your butt then using 'other drugs' is not that much of an issue!

-Vince, your idea of a DEA probe is a good one.  Imagine if the DEA showed up at every Pro Event and started harassing the participants; the confidence and credibility of the sport would disappear overnight!



Total BS. You do not have a clue regarding this subject. Steroids are not addictive and mood swings, hormonal changes and organ damage are real questionable... Aspirin, if abused is more damaging than steroids.

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #467 on: April 23, 2008, 06:01:43 PM »
There is your in Vince.Now make a stand and take your place in History as the man who changed Pro BB.

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #468 on: April 23, 2008, 06:03:11 PM »
How on earth can Arnold have a contest in his name and attend and speak there and it not be drug tested? Only in America. Corruption exists and mates help each other. There is no other explanation why professional bodybuilding is not tested. If Arnold wasn't high up in the conservative government I doubt the DEA would be so lax. Imagine if the DEA showed up and everyone had to be tested! It would end professional bodybuilding in one hit. Everyone disqualified and the IFBB deregistered as an organization.

Exactly, the IFBB deregistered. Now we are speaking the same language!

The question is;

                     How do we mobilise the DEA?  
It wont be hard to garner public support; for they are sickened by this sport and its insiduous overt usage of steroids.  

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #469 on: April 23, 2008, 06:06:23 PM »
DEA is only a phone call away.Now watch that benign Drug Rule dissapear.Without Pros IFBB will take anyone just like NABBA.hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #470 on: April 23, 2008, 06:12:35 PM »
Basile, would you be prepared to work with the DEA? 

Does this thought frighten you? 

Are you scared that there may be dangerous repercussions for you (if it was discovered that you were the IFBB whistle blower)?

Make a stand Vince, contact this authority! 

The argument for what is right must outweigh personal sacrifice.

For example, if women didn't  stand up and fight for equality, they would still be locked away in the suburbs being raped by their spouse!

Can you see my point?

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #471 on: April 23, 2008, 06:18:03 PM »
Does the DEA give a fuck bout the IFBB?
I love how Arnold just owns everyone including the DEA

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #472 on: April 23, 2008, 06:22:55 PM »
The DEA has a dislike to all Drugs and Drug users it's sort of their business.

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #473 on: April 23, 2008, 06:36:15 PM »
If anyone knows me they would know I don't like clandestine activities. I would be out in the open about this. I will see what I can do. I need to make some enquiries. I have a voip phone so it doesn't cost much to call overseas.

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Re: Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!
« Reply #474 on: April 23, 2008, 06:40:44 PM »

What if the DEA showed up at the Olympia and tested everyone before the competition. If found positive for banned substances each bodybuilder could be investigated to find out where he acquired his drugs. Any doctor prescribing for healthy men and women would be in big trouble. Something needs to be done to save this sport. The IFBB has rules but is the enemy of bodybuilding and has no right holding contests when banned substances are tolerated and not tested for. They are digging their own grave.