1000iu hcg eod for a total of 20 days and running during cycle is way to much hcg IMO. The protocol for hcg that I and lots of others use successfully is 500iu e3d or 2xew while on cycle. Starting hcg at first administration of test. Running hcg during cycle and then during PCT doesnt make a whole lot of sense either, as you never get a chance to really recover naturally if that is your goal during the "so called hrt break". Im on HRT also and I use HCG very sparingly. I will use it for a boost (as described above) then not use it at all for a period of time. Right now Im on 200mg ew test and Im going to drop that down to 200mg e2w. The goal I have for HRT is to run enough for replacement, but not so much that my natural production shuts down. When I drop the dose I will not use hcg at all.
As far as time off goes between cycles I still stand by time on = time off. I do this just to remain healthy, and make sure I can still recover properly. For how long I stay on hrt will be determined. I guess as long as I feel completely normal I will remain on. HRT is still fairly new to me so we will see how it goes.
Thanks for your input. I'm new to HRT as well.
It's been years since I really used much gear and I got out of shape. So, right now I'm just trying to add muscle and lose fat to get back to a respectable condition. I don't care about being that big.
Currently, I am about 204 lbs and 6% bf at 6'. I will probably do one more 12 week cycle of test, deca and winnie cycle to put on a bit more muscle - maybe up to 210 - 215 lbs - and then take a break from androgens and anabolics. I can retain that size pretty well with just Humalog preworkout.
So, in between this cycle and the next I can:
A) Just keep going for another 12 weeks; or
B) Just skip the HCG at the end and go straight to clomid and Nolvadex for four weeks before resuming the test, etc. As I mentioned before, I am using Propionate now for a couple of weeks to let the long esters clear out. I might also add a couple of weeks of an oral after the Prop so that when i discontinue the oral my test levels will be very, very low at which point I can start the clomid and then Nolva with fully functioning nuts (thanks to the HCG used up until the end).
What do you think?