Bob Chick, who is more accurate, Milos of GH15?

[Mussolini]

Milos claims that most "smart" IFBB pros use about 750 mg of test a week, and mabey 500-750 mg of another compound.

GH15 claism that the average IFBB pro uses anywhere from 2-3 grams of test, and 2-3 grams of other compounds as well as orals.

I personally believe GH15, who would you say is the more accurate of the two Bob?

[TrueGrit]

They are both right. Notice that Milos explicitly states 'smart' professional bodybuilders. He is talking about a hypothetical scenario as none exist.

[SquatAss]

Lee does one amp of deca a week 8 weeks prior to a contest. He is the smartest pro.

[wisconsinBB]

I think Milos is considerably closer to whats really goin on than GH15.

[Luolamies]

Well, they both might be right, except that when Milos is talking about those 500-750 mg doses 2 per week they are on a host of other things as well. Namely, insulin. Of course, even some of us who know at least something about BB/Powerlifting drugs have not even heard about half the stuff they are using. Also, Milos is a very smart person and does not want people to think that Professional athletes do nothing but stay at home and inject all day long.

[JasonH]

Well, they both might be right, except that when Milos is talking about those 500-750 mg doses 2 per week they are on a host of other things as well. Namely, insulin. Of course, even some of us who know at least something about BB/Powerlifting drugs have not even heard about half the stuff they are using. Also, Milos is a very smart person and does not want people to think that Professional athletes do nothing but stay at home and inject all day long.

I would say that's pretty much correct - 500-750mg a week is all most guys need to take but it just depends on how much else you want to throw into the mix - don't forget all the GH too.

[Luolamies]

I would say that's pretty much correct - 500-750mg a week is all most guys need to take but it just depends on how much else you want to throw into the mix - don't forget all the GH too.

Or the Igf-1, Mgf, clugophage etc.

[candidizzle]

I would say that's pretty much correct - 500-750mg a week is all most guys need to take but it just depends on how much else you want to throw into the mix - don't forget all the GH too.

bigj you dont know what your talking about bro

[OTHstrong]

bigj you dont know what your talking about bro

You here of guys spending over 10 grand on amateur shows; if that equals 3 amps a week then thats some expensive stuff. These guys on getbig will never get it.

[G o a t b o y]

Well, they both might be right, except that when Milos is talking about those 500-750 mg doses 2 per week they are on a host of other things as well. Namely, insulin.

That's exactly what I was gonna say...  I'd imagine some pros rely more heavily on insulin, and some more on AAS, so they both could be right.

[knny187]

I prefer 2 tablets of d-bol a day.....


but that may be really pushing it

 

[Meltdown]

Chick won't answer that question as he said in a thread about Drug use in Pros. No Pros openly talk about their Drug Course and if you give him names he says he has Never heard of them and Milos is old and has not competed for years So he doesn't count.FFS Wake up and smell the Drugs Bob.IMO GH15 is straight up without agenda Milos is always selling something.

[Chick]

Both could certainly be correct, what the "smart" one's do, and what most do might be two different things...experience is what often makes one become "smart" along the way.

We've also seen quite a few "next big things" come and go in record time due to receptor burnout, and overdoing it early on....trust me, the one's doing th most amount of drugs either never make it, or aren't around too long. The veteren BBers that have had a steady and long career are indeed, the smart ones.

[YoungBlood]

Sounds like a good post to me, Bob.

[peroni]

Both could certainly be correct, what the "smart" one's do, and what most do might be two different things...experience is what often makes one become "smart" along the way.

We've also seen quite a few "next big things" come and go in record time due to receptor burnout, and overdoing it early on....trust me, the one's doing th most amount of drugs either never make it, or aren't around too long. The veteren BBers that have had a steady and long career are indeed, the smart ones.

Good answer

[jtsunami]

Both could certainly be correct, what the "smart" one's do, and what most do might be two different things...experience is what often makes one become "smart" along the way.

We've also seen quite a few "next big things" come and go in record time due to receptor burnout, and overdoing it early on....trust me, the one's doing th most amount of drugs either never make it, or aren't around too long. The veteren BBers that have had a steady and long career are indeed, the smart ones.

What does receptor burnout mean Chick?  Who were you sponsored by when you Bodybuilt?  I know Culter is built by muscle tech.  Can you burn your receptors out from too much muscle tech or certain brand over a period of time?

[Meltdown]

Now that is a Good question.Why would any BB burn out from supps?Maybe they should come with a warning on the label "If used could cause Receptor Burnout"FFS it just gets more laughable.

[candidizzle]

personally, the i think its receptor donwgrade
and i think lowering the doseage and running some pct can make those "burnouts" start to grow again.

as well as "tapering up"

what do you think bob

[Chick]

Now that is a Good question.Why would any BB burn out from supps?Maybe they should come with a warning on the label "If used could cause Receptor Burnout"FFS it just gets more laughable.

The only thing gettin more laughable, are your posts....

Your body can become less tolerent to supps just as easy...purely by taking higher than reccomended dosages for a prolonged period of time. The body adapts very quickly.
BTW...how much time did you spend on www.gettrackandfield.com today, wondering why they dont test their athletes despite having it in their rules??  HURRY!

[wisconsinBB]

Chick speaks the truth.  The reason guys don't want to accept the idea of pros only using the amounts listed is because they can't deal with the fact that they can use 5 times as much stuff and not look half as good. 

[Stavios]

Chick speaks the truth.  The reason guys don't want to accept the idea of pros only using the amounts listed is because they can't deal with the fact that they can use 5 times as much stuff and not look half as good. 

true story

[liquid_c]

Chick speaks the truth.  The reason guys don't want to accept the idea of pros only using the amounts listed is because they can't deal with the fact that they can use 5 times as much stuff and not look half as good. 

Brutal truth...

[Method101]

bigj you dont know what your talking about bro

Post a picture of yourself, i am interested to know what your self proclaimed massive use of drugs has got you.

[Monster_Everything]

personally, the i think its receptor donwgrade
and i think lowering the doseage and running some pct can make those "burnouts" start to grow again.

as well as "tapering up"

what do you think bob

your sooo gay its redicoulous..

[Matt C]

They are both right. Notice that Milos explicitly states 'smart' professional bodybuilders. He is talking about a hypothetical scenario as none exist.

LOL!!!!!!!!

After years of defending bodybuilders then finally meeting them and realizing for myself how smart they are collectively, I would tend to agree.