MATT FERRIGNO AND ANDY FERRIGNO

[affy]

Hey Andy....

Were you sitting at the table in the movie Pumping Iron when everyone was having dinner & your father was talking about winning the olympia & beating Arnold?

nah he was the fat guy lifting the 5s in the white shirt

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Who cares if the walls were green.  Never heard of a hulk green though.  Were the walls green with muscles or something.  Were there Lous pics anywhere?

Well, Andy PMed me stating that his walls were no longer green.  There were no Lou pictures as far as I researched but there was apparantly a lot of Pumping Iron related stuff in the store from what I understand. 

The main question is if a person walked into the store and saw it, most people would automatically assume it was owned by Lou Ferrigno and more than likely the jury will see it the same way.

[JohnnyVegas]

So what if its Ferrigno??  There's a lot of people in the US that have their last name as Ferrigno and his last name isn't the argument.  Here's the problems I found:

1.  The store is painted green but most importantly HULK GREEN.

2.  Andy has allegedly used Lou's name to help sell equipment and make references to

3.  The wall displays show many Pumping Iron poster and memorbilia from what I understand.  Yea, Matt Ferrigno was in the movie but Andy's ass wasn't and obviously the movie was about Arnold competing against Lou Ferrigno 

4.  Andy apparantly cybersquatted on the domain name ferrignofitness.com knowing that his brother uses that for his corporate ventures.



Some people wonder what harm it is and the answer is that Lou Ferrigno's name could be seriously tarnished for no reason if Andy has an unhappy customer.  More than likely his office or business was problably affected by some bad transactions that Andy may have made. 



Lou did all the work to put the name Ferrigno on the map to begin with and Andy didn't do shit except being related to him.  His business from my prespective is based solely off of Lou's hard work with isn't fair. 

I'm not playing favorites neither because when I met Lou, he was a complete asshole to me.  But even assholes have rights too.


Andy, do the right thing and drop the suit.  You already lost the cybersquatting case, don't hurt yourself or your family any further.  Be a man and stand on your own two feet instead of your brother, Lou

Vince- let me educate you on the law, since you have no fucking clue about how it works.

1- Andy does NOT use Lou to market the business-so that is a flat out lie and you either made that up or do not know what youre talking about (big surprise).

2- ferrignofitness.com was ANDY's internet name, NOT Lou's, so the cybersquatting claim is bullshit also.

3- Andy having a dissatisfied customer would never in a million years hurt Lou's income or business, anymore than it would hurt Ford Motor Co., that is IF Lou even had a business-which he does not.

4- Lou did all the work to put the Ferrigno name on the map??? Says who??? You?? Lou??? Lou is known for 2 things, Pmping Iron and The Hulk-neither of which he "put on the map".

5- Andy did NOT FILE THE SUIT you idiot-Lou did. So Andy does not have the power to drop it-only Lou or the Court have the power to terminate the lawsuit-and it is my understanding it has been settled.

Listen, just because you have achieved a small aount of fame, thru luck and the main effort of others, does NOTmean you have the right to tell a person in business for over 20 years to change their FAMILY BUSINESS NAME.

Besides Lou waited too long to file suit-look up the term "laches".

Lou is just making trouble with a meritless lawsuit.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

hasnt Big Louey been cashing in on a character that he dont own since the day he stopped playing the character which has to be around late 80s early 90s

Lou invested in the show wisely so he has the rights

[mass 04]

Vince- let me educate you on the law, since you have no fucking clue about how it works.

1- Andy does NOT use Lou to market the business-so that is a flat out lie and you either made that up or do not know what youre talking about (big surprise).

2- ferrignofitness.com was ANDY's internet name, NOT Lou's, so the cybersquatting claim is bullshit also.

3- Andy having a dissatisfied customer would never in a million years hurt Lou's income or business, anymore than it would hurt Ford Motor Co., that is IF Lou even had a business-which he does not.

4- Lou did all the work to put the Ferrigno name on the map??? Says who??? You?? Lou??? Lou is known for 2 things, Pmping Iron and The Hulk-neither of which he "put on the map".

5- Andy did NOT FILE THE SUIT you idiot-Lou did. So Andy does not have the power to drop it-only Lou or the Court have the power to terminate the lawsuit-and it is my understanding it has been settled.

Listen, just because you have achieved a small aount of fame, thru luck and the main effort of others, does NOTmean you have the right to tell a person in business for over 20 years to change their FAMILY BUSINESS NAME.

Besides Lou waited too long to file suit-look up the term "laches".

Lou is just making trouble with a meritless lawsuit.

are you implying Vince did not go to law school, or any school in general for that matter?

[emn1964]

Vince- let me educate you on the law, since you have no fucking clue about how it works.

1- Andy does NOT use Lou to market the business-so that is a flat out lie and you either made that up or do not know what youre talking about (big surprise).

2- ferrignofitness.com was ANDY's internet name, NOT Lou's, so the cybersquatting claim is bullshit also.

3- Andy having a dissatisfied customer would never in a million years hurt Lou's income or business, anymore than it would hurt Ford Motor Co., that is IF Lou even had a business-which he does not.

4- Lou did all the work to put the Ferrigno name on the map??? Says who??? You?? Lou??? Lou is known for 2 things, Pmping Iron and The Hulk-neither of which he "put on the map".

5- Andy did NOT FILE THE SUIT you idiot-Lou did. So Andy does not have the power to drop it-only Lou or the Court have the power to terminate the lawsuit-and it is my understanding it has been settled.

Listen, just because you have achieved a small aount of fame, thru luck and the main effort of others, does NOTmean you have the right to tell a person in business for over 20 years to change their FAMILY BUSINESS NAME.

Besides Lou waited too long to file suit-look up the term "laches".

Lou is just making trouble with a meritless lawsuit.

well said counselor...

[dr.chimps]

I walked into Hope Depot & asked for "Hulk Green" paint.....


they laughed

ROFL. Vince PWNED again.

[JohnnyVegas]

Lou invested in the show wisely so he has the rights

Where the fuck do you get this shit??? Lou has NO RIGHTS to the Hulk TV show.

The ONLY person that have "rights" to a TV show are the ones that brought it to TV, the ones that make the "pitch", the owners.

He may get small residuals, if it is still aried, but I have not seen it on TV for over a decade.

[emn1964]

Where the fuck do you get this shit??? Lou has NO RIGHTS to the Hulk TV show.

The ONLY person that have "rights" to a TV show are the ones that brought it to TV, the ones that make the "pitch", the owners.

He may get small residuals, if it is still aried, but I have not seen it on TV for over a decade.

I may be wrong, but I thought that Marvel Comics or DC Comics owned The Incredible Hulk and that is why if you ever see Lou with Hulk shirts on or at his signing booth, he never actually uses the name The Incredible Hulk.  It's just a picture of him in his green makeup. 

[Ruffneck]

Lou invested in the show wisely so he has the rights

He owns the rights to the Hulk?

So marvel just went here big Lou take this multi million dollar franchise off our hands so you can pimp it out for $20 a pop - dont seem right to me?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Vince- let me educate you on the law, since you have no fucking clue about how it works.

1- Andy does NOT use Lou to market the business-so that is a flat out lie and you either made that up or do not know what youre talking about (big surprise).

2- ferrignofitness.com was ANDY's internet name, NOT Lou's, so the cybersquatting claim is bullshit also.

3- Andy having a dissatisfied customer would never in a million years hurt Lou's income or business, anymore than it would hurt Ford Motor Co., that is IF Lou even had a business-which he does not.

4- Lou did all the work to put the Ferrigno name on the map??? Says who??? You?? Lou??? Lou is known for 2 things, Pmping Iron and The Hulk-neither of which he "put on the map".

5- Andy did NOT FILE THE SUIT you idiot-Lou did. So Andy does not have the power to drop it-only Lou or the Court have the power to terminate the lawsuit-and it is my understanding it has been settled.

Listen, just because you have achieved a small aount of fame, thru luck and the main effort of others, does NOTmean you have the right to tell a person in business for over 20 years to change their FAMILY BUSINESS NAME.

Besides Lou waited too long to file suit-look up the term "laches".

Lou is just making trouble with a meritless lawsuit.

1.  Well first off you need to check www.ferrignofitness.com because he lost that case and it now goes to Lou's website rightfully.

2.  Andy already admitted in the first post he made that he told most of his customers that he was Lou Ferrigno's brother.  So yes, he does use Lou's name to market his business. 

3.  When people think Ferrigno, I'm sure that they're not thinking about Matt or Andy....they are thinking Lou...period.  If Andy has a competitive bodybuilding record or movie credits then I may reconsider however as far a I know, Andy Ferrigno has not accomplished anything significant in his life other than being the brother of Lou Ferrigno.


4.  Andy may not have filed the suit but he obviously caused it.  He can simply concede and make the changes to his business so he doesn't infringe on his brother.


5.  Lou has already tried talking to him about it before the lawsuit for many years but Andy obviously didn't listen. 



Andy made a ton of money off Lou's hard work.  Its time for him to stand on his own two feet

[PANDAEMONIUM]

Thanks for clarifying we were all so concerned over this.  I could barely sleep at night wondering were Matt and Andy living off Lou.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[toolarge4u]

your fathers role in pumping iron was complete fabricated bullshit, nice try.

[Danimal77]

1.  Well first off you need to check www.ferrignofitness.com because he lost that case and it now goes to Lou's website rightfully.

2.  Andy already admitted in the first post he made that he told most of his customers that he was Lou Ferrigno's brother.  So yes, he does use Lou's name to market his business. 

3.  When people think Ferrigno, I'm sure that they're not thinking about Matt or Andy....they are thinking Lou...period.  If Andy has a competitive bodybuilding record or movie credits then I may reconsider however as far a I know, Andy Ferrigno has not accomplished anything significant in his life other than being the brother of Lou Ferrigno.


4.  Andy may not have filed the suit but he obviously caused it.  He can simply concede and make the changes to his business so he doesn't infringe on his brother.


5.  Lou has already tried talking to him about it before the lawsuit for many years but Andy obviously didn't listen. 



Andy made a ton of money off Lou's hard work.  Its time for him to stand on his own two feet

And what makes you think Andy hasn't been working hard for the last 30 years. He's probably been working his ASS off since the day you born.

Vince, you don't know me and that is fine, but why defend a guy like Lou, who would not defend a guy like you, but rather charge you money to be in his presence. I think if anything you respect his cut-throat business attitude. People don't respect men like that. They fear them.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

And what makes you think Andy hasn't been working hard for the last 30 years. He's probably been working his ASS off since the day you born.

Vince, you don't know me and that is fine, but why defend a guy like Lou, who would not defend a guy like you, but rather charge you money to be in his presence. I think if anything you respect his cut-throat business attitude. People don't respect men like that. They fear them.

I'm not debating that Lou is an asshole because he is..at least he was to me.  I'm just stating the facts in the case and the likely outcome of the lawsuit. 

The debate also isn't whether he worked hard for 30 years but whether he used his brother Lou's fame to grow his business and from what it looks like he did.

[Moosejay]

And what makes you think Andy hasn't been working hard for the last 30 years. He's probably been working his ASS off since the day you born.

Vince, you don't know me and that is fine, but why defend a guy like Lou, who would not defend a guy like you, but rather charge you money to be in his presence. I think if anything you respect his cut-throat business attitude. People don't respect men like that. They fear them.

No, we think they are a--holes.

[JohnnyVegas]

1.  Well first off you need to check www.ferrignofitness.com because he lost that case and it now goes to Lou's website rightfully.

2.  Andy already admitted in the first post he made that he told most of his customers that he was Lou Ferrigno's brother.  So yes, he does use Lou's name to market his business. 

3.  When people think Ferrigno, I'm sure that they're not thinking about Matt or Andy....they are thinking Lou...period.  If Andy has a competitive bodybuilding record or movie credits then I may reconsider however as far a I know, Andy Ferrigno has not accomplished anything significant in his life other than being the brother of Lou Ferrigno.


4.  Andy may not have filed the suit but he obviously caused it.  He can simply concede and make the changes to his business so he doesn't infringe on his brother.


5.  Lou has already tried talking to him about it before the lawsuit for many years but Andy obviously didn't listen. 



Andy made a ton of money off Lou's hard work.  Its time for him to stand on his own two feet

1- Yes, Lou has www.ferrignofitness.com, so what?? Andy may have just gave it to Lou to stop a long drawn out meritless lawsuit.

2- Lou does NOT OWN The Hulk or even a part of it, glad to see you backed down from that BS claim.

3- So Andy said he was Lou's brother?? SO WHAT! Is that a criminal or civil crime?? NO, it is nothing but the truth and Lou cannot do shit about that-sort of like me saying you date a guy named Queen Vissy-100% true-you cant do shit.

4- "When people think Ferrigno, I'm sure that they're not thinking about Matt or Andy....they are thinking Lou...period."...SO WHAT. That is not relevent-it is not against the law to operate a family business using YOUR OWN NAME-why can't you understand that?

5- Andy did not start this lawsuit and he does not have to do shit to please Lou-Zero, nada, nothing. If I was Andy I would tell Lou to go fuck himself.

6-"Andy made a ton of money off Lou's hard work."...dude-what the fuck are you talking about?? Lou CANT EVEN MAKE MONEY OFF OF LOU! Lou is not worth jack shit-he is a washed up wannabe BBer living off of a 30 year old TV series that lasted only 4 years. Lou is reduced to CHARGING 10 year old kids $30 bucks for a picture and signing autographs 3-4 times a year at COMIC CONVENTIONS!

That is pathetic. Really. Shit, even Arnold was making fun of the guy.

If Lou was not such a douchebag I would actually feel sorry for his pathetic ass.

There is one BIG rule in life.

You dont fuck with your family, because in the end all you really have is family. Lou broke the biggest rule in life. He is not liked for a reason and his BS lawsuit is not worth the paper it is printed on.

You may not know this because youre not in the legal field, but lots of times people with money will file bogus lawsuits against people without money-or not enough money to fight a lawsuit- for harrssement purposes, knowign that the person cannot fight back because of costs. That is what Lou is doing.

[Moosejay]

Johnny Vegas is correct.

Always remember this in business:

"WIIFM"

=

"What's In It For Me"

As far as Andy running his business....I will guarantee his clients do not care about Lou...or about Andy himself, for that matter.

People only care about themselves, and what you can do for THEM.

Lou's case...well...he does not have a leg to stand on.

A VERY weak case, at best.

[JohnnyVegas]

Johnny Vegas is correct.

Always remember this in business:

"WIIFM"

=

"What's In It For Me"

As far as Andy running his business....I will guarantee his clients do not care about Lou...or about Andy himself, for that matter.

People only care about themselves, and what you can do for THEM.

Lou's case...well...he does not have a leg to stand on.

A VERY weak case, at best.

If I was Andy, I would get Lou's case tossed and then I would counter sue him for malicious prosecution. That would teach that stingy ass a lesson. Problem is it costs huge sums of money to litigate lawsuits.

[Bix]

If I was Andy, I would get Lou's case tossed and then I would counter sue him for malicious prosecution. That would teach that stingy ass a lesson. Problem is it costs huge sums of money to litigate lawsuits.

Ah, I think most lawyers , if they really think they can win, will wait till it's over and take whatever percentage is agreed to before the start.

[tommywishbone]

Lou invested in the show wisely so he has the rights

Please explain how a nobody actor, working in 1977 (or whenever that show was taped) "invested in the show". Having spent a few years working in TV & Film, I'm more than a little curious. 

[mass 04]

Please explain how a nobody actor, working in 1977 (or whenever that show was taped) "invested in the show". Having spent a few years working in TV & Film, I'm more than a little curious. 

this should be good. 

[Special Ed]

If Andy Ferrigno needs good legal counsel, I know an attorney who would love to take this case. I hope they appealed the FerrignoFitness.com decision -- it goes against all precedent.

[danielson]

If Andy Ferrigno needs good legal counsel, I know an attorney who would love to take this case. I hope they appealed the FerrignoFitness.com decision -- it goes against all precedent.

Maybe appealing would make Lou angry and Andy probably doesn't  like Lou too much when he's angry.

[Camel Jockey]

Hard times are coming and Lou may now have to charge $30.