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Jogging after leg workout
« on: May 06, 2008, 10:33:05 AM »

When i have the energy after a calf or thigh workout I hit the incline treadmill for 10-15 min. It seems to reduce the lactic acid buildup and soreness the next day.

Anybody else do any cardio after weightlifting? I was wondering if jogging after a leg workout is overkill. Bear in mind it isnt often.

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 10:47:53 AM »
I WOULDNT DO IT

1) lifting weights= release cortisol, depletes glycogen
1) cardio with elevated cortisol and depleted glycogen = muscle eating
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2) cardio after lifting weights= muscle eating

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2008, 02:23:31 PM »
I do it all the time :) It does help to stave off the soreness of a leg workout.

Weight Lifting=Glycogen depletion
Cardio after weight lifting= Fat reserve usage

If you are really worried about muscle wasting after lifting, have some Amino Acids prior to the cardio, you'll be fine

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2008, 03:08:49 PM »
I do it all the time :) It does help to stave off the soreness of a leg workout.

Weight Lifting=Glycogen depletion
Cardio after weight lifting= Fat reserve usage

If you are really worried about muscle wasting after lifting, have some Amino Acids prior to the cardio, you'll be fine
true, 2-3 grams bcaa would do the trick

but because i am a big believer of drinking some kind of sugar to spike insulin while working out...   cardio post training would be stupid idea FOR ME, or for somebody who isnt going to take those bcaa's

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2008, 03:12:25 PM »
true, 2-3 grams bcaa would do the trick

but because i am a big believer of drinking some kind of sugar to spike insulin while working out...   cardio post training would be stupid idea FOR ME, or for somebody who isnt going to take those bcaa's

Yep, I agree. I'm just leaning out so I do cadio after lifting all the time. So to the original question, there is no harm running after a leg workout if it makes you feal less sore the next day. At least not for the everyday gym rat that 99% of us are on this board 8) Use the suggestions above and apply them accordingly.

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2008, 03:42:36 PM »
I do it all the time :) It does help to stave off the soreness of a leg workout.

Weight Lifting=Glycogen depletion
Cardio after weight lifting= Fat reserve usage

If you are really worried about muscle wasting after lifting, have some Amino Acids prior to the cardio, you'll be fine

LOW INTENSITY Cardio after weight lifting= Fat reserve usage
HIGH INTENSITY Cardio after weight lifting= muscle wasting

Insulin spike after workout = teh best
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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2008, 08:52:03 PM »
LOW INTENSITY Cardio after weight lifting= Fat reserve usage 
HIGH INTENSITY Cardio after weight lifting= muscle wasting

Insulin spike after workout = teh best
your partially correct with your first two lines, like lamefalshoo mentioned, youd need to take asome bcaa's in order to stop muscle eating even with low intensity cardio

why do you think an insulin spike POST workout would be beneficial ?

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2008, 04:02:17 AM »
It's kind of rare that i do cardio after my workout but when i do have the energy i use the incline treadmill. Usually it helps get the lactic acid flowing rather than get it locked in a certain area. After a good leg workout my legs are packed tight and walking down stairs is a real challenge so some light cardio loosens 'em up. 


When i do use the treadmill its pretty much low intensity because I'm wasted for the most part. I'm not too worried about muscle wasting because i do it so rarely. Usually i do cardio by itself - jogging outdoors rather than on a treadmill.

Thanks for your input folks.

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2008, 04:52:16 AM »
No cardio on leg day.

How anyone can run after doing legs is a mystery to me.

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2008, 05:21:47 AM »
no cardio for me either to be honest im having a hard time walking down the stairs to the locker room
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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2008, 11:37:17 AM »
Some type of cardio before legs is a nice way to warmup the joints; after is ya, hard to imagine if the legs have been worked hard.

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2008, 11:47:51 AM »
your partially correct with your first two lines, like lamefalshoo mentioned, youd need to take asome bcaa's in order to stop muscle eating even with low intensity cardio

why do you think an insulin spike POST workout would be beneficial ?

1. I just take a teaspoon of whey before cardio, that and of course a cup of coffee and a glas of water

2. is there something?

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2008, 04:48:32 PM »
1. I just take a teaspoon of whey before cardio, that and of course a cup of coffee and a glas of water

2. is there something?


1. that would probably work

2. i still think youd benefit from drinking some kiind of sugar during yuour workouts. and if you did this, then post workout cardio would be a waste.

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2008, 06:47:14 PM »
When i have the energy after a calf or thigh workout I hit the incline treadmill for 10-15 min. It seems to reduce the lactic acid buildup and soreness the next day.

Anybody else do any cardio after weightlifting? I was wondering if jogging after a leg workout is overkill. Bear in mind it isnt often.

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You wanna reduce soreness, just stretch a lot after your leg workouts.  I think you'll find that, no matter how brutal those workouts are, you will have next to no soreness the next day, depending on how much stretching you do.  Gives you a lot of insight into the whole DOMS debate if ya think about it...

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2008, 07:35:28 PM »
You wanna reduce soreness, just stretch a lot after your leg workouts.  I think you'll find that, no matter how brutal those workouts are, you will have next to no soreness the next day, depending on how much stretching you do.  Gives you a lot of insight into the whole DOMS debate if ya think about it...

Totally agree.

I've been stretching HEAPS lately, and i've noticed a BIG difference. On tuesday i did legs, next day they weren't even sore, i could just "feel" them, if that makes sense. Whereas before, after a leg wprkout i'd be struggling to walk the next day.

imo, DOMS has no indication of muscular hypertrophy, and one should never judge the effectiveness of a workout by the severity of DOMS...
No doubt about it...

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2008, 08:15:29 PM »
true, 2-3 grams bcaa would do the trick

but because i am a big believer of drinking some kind of sugar to spike insulin while working out...   cardio post training would be stupid idea FOR ME, or for somebody who isnt going to take those bcaa's

2-3 grams of bcaa's after training will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.


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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2008, 09:56:16 PM »
2-3 grams of bcaa's after training will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.


oh yeah flex, and how do you figure ? let me EXPERT

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2008, 10:29:02 PM »
oh yeah flex, and how do you figure ? let me EXPERT

Candiz,

I actually dont hate u like 90% of this board, so keep cool there.

2-3 grams of bcaa's is like trying to smother a fire with a napkin, it just aint gonna do shit bro.

Now mega dosing (atleast 20g)  of bcaa's have shown to have anti-catabolic and anabolic effects ( just read some of charles poliquins research) but 2-3 grams aint going to do shit for any reason. Just for use after cardio or what it doesnt matter. Its just not going to do anything positive for you. Except burn a whole in your wallet. because bcaa are expensive.

Well I wouldnt say that my B.S in Kinesiology and nutrition would make me an expert, but I just know a little bit more than your average inshape personal trainer with an ISSA certification.

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2008, 10:48:53 PM »
TAKE 15-20 GRAMS OF BCAA'S AND YOUR GOING TO SPIKE INSULIN, USE THOSE BCAA'S FOR FUEL, AND BECOME DEPRESSED.

TAKE 2-3 GRAMS BCAA NO SPIKE IN INSULIN, USE FT FOR FUEL, NO EFECT FOR MOOD.




I AM COOL BRO BUT THIS IS ACCURATE INFO

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2008, 11:56:37 PM »
TAKE 15-20 GRAMS OF BCAA'S AND YOUR GOING TO SPIKE INSULIN, USE THOSE BCAA'S FOR FUEL, AND BECOME DEPRESSED.

TAKE 2-3 GRAMS BCAA NO SPIKE IN INSULIN, USE FT FOR FUEL, NO EFECT FOR MOOD.






I AM COOL BRO BUT THIS IS ACCURATE INFO

And where did u get this "accurate" info from?

Its just rediculous to me. Branch chains will not "spike" insulin, they might cause a slight rise in insulin but will not spike them.

Im talking about taking 20grams of bcaas pre, peri, and post workout, thats the only way to do it, 5 before 10 during and 5 after works well and  you'll have no reason to worry about losing muscle doing cardio.

Which is stupid anyways cos if your doing 30 minutes of cardio and you had proper pre and a proper post workout nutrition you'll be fine and wont lose any muscle.

You can OVERTHINK this totally and worry about insulin spikes and gluconeogenesis and whatever the fuck else u want to worry about. But plain and simple its like this, if your eating six or seven protein filled meals a day, your going to have a constant flow of amino acids in your blood and you'll be just fine doing cardio first thing in the mornign, post workout, or whenever else u want to do it.

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2008, 01:36:04 AM »
I agree with wes, how can anybody run after training legs? 

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2008, 03:43:59 AM »
When i have the energy after a calf or thigh workout I hit the incline treadmill for 10-15 min. It seems to reduce the lactic acid buildup and soreness the next day.

Anybody else do any cardio after weightlifting? I was wondering if jogging after a leg workout is overkill. Bear in mind it isnt often.

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id save the cardio for ANY other time except straight after a workout. specially a leg workout.

do your workout , eat, and save you cardio for whenever, but dont do it straight after your workouts.


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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2008, 04:19:00 AM »
id save the cardio for ANY other time except straight after a workout. specially a leg workout.

do your workout , eat, and save you cardio for whenever, but dont do it straight after your workouts.



Agreed.

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2008, 06:13:10 AM »
I don't agree with wht i'd consider a proper session of cardio after leg day, but 10 minutes at a low intensity on the treadmill or bike (preferred option as i don't have to actually stand up) definitely reduces soreness for me.

I got legs to do today. Bring it on

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Re: Jogging after leg workout
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2008, 07:20:23 AM »
And where did u get this "accurate" info from?

Its just rediculous to me. Branch chains will not "spike" insulin, they might cause a slight rise in insulin but will not spike them.

Im talking about taking 20grams of bcaas pre, peri, and post workout, thats the only way to do it, 5 before 10 during and 5 after works well and  you'll have no reason to worry about losing muscle doing cardio.

Which is stupid anyways cos if your doing 30 minutes of cardio and you had proper pre and a proper post workout nutrition you'll be fine and wont lose any muscle.

You can OVERTHINK this totally and worry about insulin spikes and gluconeogenesis and whatever the fuck else u want to worry about. But plain and simple its like this, if your eating six or seven protein filled meals a day, your going to have a constant flow of amino acids in your blood and you'll be just fine doing cardio first thing in the mornign, post workout, or whenever else u want to do it.

I agree, a lot of people make things too complicated