Obama wins N. Carolina by 14 points!

[Dorian01]

You mean it's not over yet?

"Russert, Drudge and Chuck Todd have now said Obama is the nominee."

And they said Hildog cancelled all upcoming appearances and stuff.

[Tre]

If she tries to drag this out until October...this would be the apex of her being disingenuous.

100% correct.

She'd so fracture the democratic party that she would destroy her political future.

100% wrong. 

[Tre]

No way... if she had something that damaging on him, she would have used it already.

Right.

At this point, she's not concerned about 'damage to the Party'.  She cares only about taking Obama down with her.

[240 is Back]

the party won't give hilary any gas in 2012 or 2016 after all of this. 
the media hates her now too.

And she'll be 64 or 68 by then, and looking older. 

This is kinda her one chance to go get it.  She's going to be a bored senator forever if she doesn't win it.

[Moosejay]

100% correct.

100% wrong. 


I am just  reiterating whatTim Russert said,,,what do I know?

[Moosejay]

the party won't give hilary any gas in 2012 or 2016 after all of this. 
the media hates her now too.

And she'll be 64 or 68 by then, and looking older. 

This is kinda her one chance to go get it.  She's going to be a bored senator forever if she doesn't win it.

I think (as she is bloviating on TV as I type this) she will not only destroy her political future...she will also alienate her many fellow senators.

She may disappear into ignominy

[Tre]

the party won't give hilary any gas in 2012 or 2016 after all of this. 
the media hates her now too.

And she'll be 64 or 68 by then, and looking older. 

This is kinda her one chance to go get it.  She's going to be a bored senator forever if she doesn't win it.

Granted, she will make plenty of cash between now and death, but assuming McCain wins this November - which is a virtual lock, at this point - I don't see Hillary going away between now and 2012.  Even if the Party tried to dissuade her, she and Bill have absolute and unwavering control over at least 35% of the membership.  And if the percentage of Latino voters increases, that number could creep higher.  

I didn't get the feeling that the media liked her this election season, but despite their love affair with Obama, the Clintons have cruised to, what, 45-48% of the popular vote.  

[240 is Back]

I think (as she is bloviating on TV as I type this) she will not only destroy her political future...she will also alienate her many fellow senators.

She may disappear into ignominy

Oh yeah - many of her peers and now her biggest supporters are now publicly telling her to hang it up.

She won't be the same.  She'll be a bitter john kerry from now on.

She'll still be a good senator, and she'll still be a millionaire consultant if/when she retires from politics.  She will recover.  It's just been her destiny since age 14 to become President, and an inexperienced orator is taking that from her.

Her iraq decision is what caused all of this.  it gave obama the opening to be the 'alternative'.  She just looks like part of the establishment, the war machine.  and her lies didn't help either.   In Bill Clinton's presidency, you didn't have youtube to capture those 'GOTCHA' moments when they lie.

[240 is Back]

but assuming McCain wins this November - which is a virtual lock, at this point

I don't see how you believe that.

how many out-of-work factory workers without health insurance are going to walk into a polling booth this fall and say "I think the republicans will help me find a job and get coverage"?

Zero.

If there are more out-of-work people now, than the margin of victory in 2004, Obama wins. 

This isn't even counting the war - signals change elections historically.
This isn't even counting the age issue - Mccain has senile moments and they will come more often now.
This isn't even counting the recession - people vote dem when they're poor, historically.

This is just the unemployment vote - enough to sway things.

Besides, Hil picks the VP - say a wes clark or more likely Evan Bui - and all her backers go Obama. 

[Tre]

I think (as she is bloviating on TV as I type this) she will not only destroy her political future...she will also alienate her many fellow senators.

She may disappear into ignominy

One can only hope, but seriously, a large segment of the population has loved these people since 1992 and despite how much the pair has fucked America, PEOPLE STILL WORSHIP THEM.

It's a sickness, I swear to god, but I don't understand it. 

[240 is Back]

One can only hope, but seriously, a large segment of the population has loved these people since 1992 and despite how much the pair has fucked America, PEOPLE STILL WORSHIP THEM.

who do you think did more to hurt the USA - Clinton or bush?

[bigdumbbell]

heath schuler just endorsed mrs clinton

[shootfighter1]

Its nearly certain that it will be Obama vs McCain in the fall.  Not sure what Hillary is trying to accomplish.  She needed a bigger win in Indiana.  I think we'll see the majority of superdelegates shift over before June 3rd.

Even though McCain isn't an ideal choice, its his election to loose this fall.  If Obama was more of a moderate democrat, he could pull it off with his style and poise.  Many people won't vote for him because when you look deeper into his policies, he's just too damn liberal!  He'll probably increase taxes on everyone making over $150K/yr and vastly increase government programs and power.  Remember, that is passed on to the next president too.
Sure, there will be a smaller % of people that won't vote for him because he's black (idiots) but his far left policies will be a larger issue.  Whoever said he is the black Ted Kennedy is pretty much right on.  The democrats needed to nominate a likeable moderate IMO (more like Bill Clinton). 

Also, wait till the republicans get ahold of quotes from Obama's book, his wife's thesis and other relationships with far left individuals.  Obama hasn't always preached togetherness.  He struggled with his own identity for quite some time.

[Camel Jockey]

The dyke should drop out.

[240 is Back]

hilary is still hoping for a major crisis to make obama unelectable.

rev wright wasn't it, even if it's caused the coach to believe Wright is "the antichrist" as he put it.

[24KT]

He didn't think Larry craig should be kicked out for trying to fck another man in a public restroom.  Anyone who will excuse public gay prostitution because "the guy's on my team!"

   240, ...are you saying that.... Coach is a gay prostitute?

[Eyeball Chambers]

Hahhahaha....shit Rob, please come out of the closet now as a FULL BlOWN lib. You make it so flippin obvious!!

McCain is just as Liberal as Hillary and Obama.

[24KT]

hilary is still hoping for a major crisis to make obama unelectable.

rev wright wasn't it, even if it's caused the coach to believe Wright is "the antichrist" as he put it.

Rob,
I'd be curious to know what this "October Surprise" that Hilary speaks of is. My understanding, and you know we've discussed this... is that there is an October surprise waiting for Hilary... one that just will not go away. Although, considering the fact that she's known about this for many years, it's hardly a surprise, ...but I'm sure it will be a surprise to many of her supporters.

[24KT]

i thought everyone knew she has a girlfriend ......


NT

I'm not referring to rumours circulating about her sexuality. I'm talking word shuffles. Get with the program.

Hell, I'm talking about robbing Peter to pay Paul. 


Sometimes I just crack myself up!

Those who know, ...know.
Those who don't, ...wish they did.
Everyone's gonna know in the fall!

[Tre]

who do you think did more to hurt the USA - Clinton or bush?

Tough question, especially given how short people's memories are.

Clinton set a lot of bad stuff in motion that will take us a few decades to recover from. 

Bush set a lot of bad stuff in motion that will take us several decades to recover from. 

So, overall, Bush was worse, but for most of our lifetimes, the damage is about equal. 

[24KT]

rumors ? my buddy in DC witnessed it at Camp David.

hillary loves women.......


NT

I'm not talking about that.

Hell, I'm talking about robbing Peter to pay Paul!


...now put your thinking cap on.

[24KT]

shit, my mind was thinking lesbianism ! 


NT

when I say "thinking cap", ...I'm not referring to a condom either, so get that thought out of your mind.