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I have read countless posts about how some feel that Bob is a mindless pawn or puppet for the IFBB.
In my humble opinion, I honestly get the impression that Bob really does believe that the NPC/ IFBB is the best organization to promote bodybuilding.

I have been lucky to be able to talk with Bob for several minutes at various contest expos over the years.
Sometimes the crowd is slow and Bob is working a booth . I have used these times to pick Bob's brain on various bodybuilding issues. We may not agree on every issue, but one things stands out.

Bob started with the NPC as a teen and worked his way up after many years to the pro ranks. The world of the NPC/ IFBB (pro) is what he knows and loves.I sincerely believe that the reason he doesn't "badmouth" the IFBB or Jim Manion is due to his respect for the man and his organization. What other organization as come close to what the NPC/IFBB has done with bodybuilding? Folks have talked big and tried, only to crash and burn. McMahn's WBF debacle in the early 90's along with the recent folding of Wayne Damillia's PDI are examples of what I talking about. While I disagree with Bob on the infamous drug issue, I do agree that the natural sanctions are small , "mom and pop" operations.

The NPC/IFBB may not be perfect, but over the years, they have been the only viable path for any career as a bodybuilder. Say what you will, crack on the IFBB all you want, and you still have to admit they have been the BIG leagues for a long time.

Bob has done well by working with the IFBB/ NPC system as it is. He earned his way up via a lot of years of hard work as a bodybuilder. He may not have won the Arnold or Mr O, but he did work on his "PR" skills as an actor and MC by working in shows like American Gladiators and small parts in some films.

From my experience, it appears Bob has done just fine with the NPC/IFBB system and it is logical he would be loyal to them as a result. Not every pro has faired as well as Bob of course. Lee Priest would be the classic example. Lee is a good pro with a great physique, but he never really did  say or do the right things to survive long term in the IFBB. Arnold knew how to make things work for him within the IFBB and both the IFBB and Arnold got a bennefit from their relationship , to this day. Arnold knew when to move on to other more lucrative paths however .

Sometimes an employee or athlete does well by working WITH an organization . While some may admire the outspoken rebel, the smarter path may be the one where you get along with the main group. Sincere, hard working, loyal team players are often the most valued members in any organization. Why rock the boat if you are sailing along just fine?

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2008, 05:35:09 PM »
All points taken but I thought Bob was the Pro Athletes Rep not the Fukin IFBB. ::)

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2008, 05:35:52 PM »
Didnt you run away cause you got your feelings hurt?
Wait for it....

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2008, 06:21:21 PM »
All points taken but I thought Bob was the Pro Athletes Rep not the Fukin IFBB. ::)

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2008, 06:22:45 PM »

In my humble opinion, I honestly get the impression that Bob really does believe that the NPC/ IFBB is the best organization to promote bodybuilding.



Yeah, but that's because he's stupid, Howard.  ::)
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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2008, 06:23:29 PM »
   I have read countless posts about how some feel that Bob is a midless pawn or puppet for the IFBB.
In my humble opinion, I honestly get the impression that Bob really does believe that the NPC/ IFBB is the best organization to promote bodybuilding.
I have been lucky to be able to talk with Bob for several minutes at various contest expos over the years.
Sometimes the crowd is slow and Bob is working a booth . I have used these times to pick Bob's brain on various bodybuilding issues. We may not agree on every issue, but one things stands out.
Bob started with the NPC as a teen and worked his way up after many years to the pro ranks.
The world of the NPC/ IFBB (pro) is what he knows and loves.I sincerely believe that the reason he doesn't "badmouth" the IFBB or Jim Manion is due to his respect for the man and his organization.
What other organization as come close to what the NPC/IFBB has done with bodybuilding?
Folks have talked big and tried, only to crash and burn. McMahn's WBF debacle in the early 90's along with the recent folding of Wayne Damillia's PDI are examples of what I talking about. While I disagree with Bob on the infamous drug issue, I do agree that the natural sanctions are small , "mom and pop" operations.
The NPC/IFBB may not be perfect, but over the years, they have been the only viable path for any career as a bodybuilder. Say what you will, crack on the IFBB all you want, and you still have to admit they have been the BIG leagues for a long time.

Bob has done well by working with the IFBB/ NPC system as it is. He earned his way up via a lot of years of hard work as a bodybuilder. He may not have won the Arnold or Mr O, but he did work on his "PR" skills as an actor and MC by working in shows like American Gladiators and small parts in some films.

From my experience, it appears Bob has done just fine with the NPC/IFBB system and it is logical he would be loyal to them as a result. Not every pro has faired as well as Bob of course. Lee Priest would be the classic example. Lee is a good pro with a great physique, but he never really did  say or do the right things to survive long term in the IFBB. Arnold knew how to make things work for him within the IFBB and both the IFBB and Arnold got a bennefit from their relationship , to this day. Arnold knew when to move on to other more lucrative paths however .

Sometimes an employee or athlete does well by working WITH an organization . While some may admire the outspoken rebel, the smarter path may be the one where you get along with the main group.
Sincere, hard working, loyal team players are often the most valued members in any organization.
Why rock the boat if you are sailing along just fine?

You are wise my friend....no surprise there, the smarter one's always seem to know the truth.

I get a kick out of all these guys who constantly campaign about the BBers being able to compete elsehere, in other fed's, etc....little do they know, there is little to no money outside the IFBB. Anyone want to do some homework? Where is Tim Fogerty when we need him? Look up how much the winner of last years NABBA shows won....(assuming they had a show)

Athletes have made their way through the NPC, graduated on to the IFBB, gained exposure through the muscle mags, signed contracts with major supp companies, made money from competing, appearances, etc....why does anyone believe the athletes want to go anywhere ese? Go where? to the PDI? If anyone thought going there was such a great idea, they could have followed Priest there....that resulted in a whopping 2 guys, who are both now done it seems.


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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2008, 06:28:05 PM »
....that resulted in a whopping 2 guys, who are both now done it seems.




Hey, come on...  Lee Priest is about as done as Squadfather.   Oh, wait a minute....  :D
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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2008, 06:33:06 PM »

Hey, come on...  Lee Priest is about as done as Squadfather.   Oh, wait a minute....  :D

Lee wasn't mentioned....

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2008, 06:33:36 PM »
NPC/IFBB is the only league, how many Nabba athletes have endorsement contracts ? Not many .

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2008, 06:40:07 PM »
You are wise my friend....no surprise there, the smarter one's always seem to know the truth.

 If anyone thought going there was such a great idea, they could have followed Priest there....that resulted in a whopping 2 guys, who are both now done it seems.



Mmm... seems we finally got an answer as to whether Priest will be competing in the IFBB from you Bob. So why don't you just tell him yourself instead of pretending you give two shits about what happens in his bb career.
Instead of saying, "Lee if you just shut up and lay low, you will be reinstated", come clean. Stop bullshitting around you two-faced assfuck...
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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2008, 06:44:40 PM »
Mmm... seems we finally got an answer as to whether Priest will be competing in the IFBB from you Bob. So why don't you just tell him yourself instead of pretending you give two shits about what happens in his bb career.
Instead of saying, "Lee if you just shut up and lay low, you will be reinstated", come clean. Stop bullshitting around you two-faced assfuck...

Too bad you cant read you assfuck...did I mention Priest as being done? See if you can actually comprehend what was written....assfuck.

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2008, 06:45:48 PM »
Mmm... seems we finally got an answer as to whether Priest will be competing in the IFBB from you Bob. So why don't you just tell him yourself instead of pretending you give two shits about what happens in his bb career.
Instead of saying, "Lee if you just shut up and lay low, you will be reinstated", come clean. Stop bullshitting around you two-faced assfuck...


It was posted in another thread somewhere that Manion has said to several people that Lee is never getting back in, and if true, I can't believe Bob could be unaware of this.  Unfortunately, Manion (and probably Bob) won't say it to LEE, because they enjoy fuccking with him by giving him false hope way too much.
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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2008, 06:47:11 PM »
Too bad you cant read you assfuck...did I mention Priest as being done? See if you can actually comprehend what was written....assfuck.

LMFAO "assfuck"?  wow Chick just lost it...someone got him angry haha

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2008, 06:50:57 PM »

So why the Fuk have a B&A contest mentioned on the IFBB Pro site in the NEWS section. Hmmmmmmm?????.FFS.

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2008, 06:51:37 PM »

It was posted in another thread somewhere that Manion has said to several people that Lee is never getting back in, and if true, I can't believe Bob could be unaware of this.  Unfortunately, Manion (and probably Bob) won't say it to LEE, because they enjoy fuccking with him by giving him false hope way too much.

Answered your own question...it's not.

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2008, 06:54:14 PM »
i wish everyone would just stop being an assfuck  ;D

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
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   I have read countless posts about how some feel that Bob is a midless pawn or puppet for the IFBB.
In my humble opinion, I honestly get the impression that Bob really does believe that the NPC/ IFBB is the best organization to promote bodybuilding.
I have been lucky to be able to talk with Bob for several minutes at various contest expos over the years.
Sometimes the crowd is slow and Bob is working a booth . I have used these times to pick Bob's brain on various bodybuilding issues. We may not agree on every issue, but one things stands out.
Bob started with the NPC as a teen and worked his way up after many years to the pro ranks.
The world of the NPC/ IFBB (pro) is what he knows and loves.I sincerely believe that the reason he doesn't "badmouth" the IFBB or Jim Manion is due to his respect for the man and his organization.
What other organization as come close to what the NPC/IFBB has done with bodybuilding?
Folks have talked big and tried, only to crash and burn. McMahn's WBF debacle in the early 90's along with the recent folding of Wayne Damillia's PDI are examples of what I talking about. While I disagree with Bob on the infamous drug issue, I do agree that the natural sanctions are small , "mom and pop" operations.
The NPC/IFBB may not be perfect, but over the years, they have been the only viable path for any career as a bodybuilder. Say what you will, crack on the IFBB all you want, and you still have to admit they have been the BIG leagues for a long time.

Bob has done well by working with the IFBB/ NPC system as it is. He earned his way up via a lot of years of hard work as a bodybuilder. He may not have won the Arnold or Mr O, but he did work on his "PR" skills as an actor and MC by working in shows like American Gladiators and small parts in some films.

From my experience, it appears Bob has done just fine with the NPC/IFBB system and it is logical he would be loyal to them as a result. Not every pro has faired as well as Bob of course. Lee Priest would be the classic example. Lee is a good pro with a great physique, but he never really did  say or do the right things to survive long term in the IFBB. Arnold knew how to make things work for him within the IFBB and both the IFBB and Arnold got a bennefit from their relationship , to this day. Arnold knew when to move on to other more lucrative paths however .

Sometimes an employee or athlete does well by working WITH an organization . While some may admire the outspoken rebel, the smarter path may be the one where you get along with the main group.
Sincere, hard working, loyal team players are often the most valued members in any organization.
Why rock the boat if you are sailing along just fine?


You are wise my friend....no surprise there, the smarter one's always seem to know the truth.

I get a kick out of all these guys who constantly campaign about the BBers being able to compete elsehere, in other fed's, etc....little do they know, there is little to no money outside the IFBB. Anyone want to do some homework? Where is Tim Fogerty when we need him? Look up how much the winner of last years NABBA shows won....(assuming they had a show)

Athletes have made their way through the NPC, graduated on to the IFBB, gained exposure through the muscle mags, signed contracts with major supp companies, made money from competing, appearances, etc....why does anyone believe the athletes want to go anywhere ese? Go where? to the PDI? If anyone thought going there was such a great idea, they could have followed Priest there....that resulted in a whopping 2 guys, who are both now done it seems.
                                        So why the Fuk have a B&A contest mentioned on the IFBB Pro site in the NEWS section.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????.FFS.


I would guess because there was misinformation put out initially which made it sound like anyone could compete without recourse....that was not true. By posting the obvious, they eliminate any possibility of an athlete saying " But I thought....."

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2008, 06:59:08 PM »
Oh you mean like that Show Troy just Guest posed in last weekend????.

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2008, 07:02:00 PM »
Answered your own question...it's not.


Bullshit.  In any other crime/punishment scenario I can think of, whether dealing with private organizations or the law, you break a rule, get sentenced to a finite punishment, serve your time, and that's it.  The IFBB could have "sentenced" him to permanent expulsion, but they didn't, they gave him 12 months.  He served his time...  let him back in!
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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2008, 07:03:17 PM »
Is it 12mths YET??????????? ::)

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2008, 07:06:52 PM »
if the IFBB is the "only viable option" then why is manion so concerned about competing outside the IFBB?
he apparently has no problem with Jay,Gustavo,Troy and other guest posing outside the IFBB.

As there is so little money in bodybuilding, why limit the lower tier athletes income by restricting where they compete?
If the IFBB really cared about the athletes, then there should be no concern about competeing/guest posing elsewhere to make a few bucks.

You are wise my friend....no surprise there, the smarter one's always seem to know the truth.

I get a kick out of all these guys who constantly campaign about the BBers being able to compete elsehere, in other fed's, etc....little do they know, there is little to no money outside the IFBB. Anyone want to do some homework? Where is Tim Fogerty when we need him? Look up how much the winner of last years NABBA shows won....(assuming they had a show)

Athletes have made their way through the NPC, graduated on to the IFBB, gained exposure through the muscle mags, signed contracts with major supp companies, made money from competing, appearances, etc....why does anyone believe the athletes want to go anywhere ese? Go where? to the PDI? If anyone thought going there was such a great idea, they could have followed Priest there....that resulted in a whopping 2 guys, who are both now done it seems.



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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2008, 07:07:09 PM »

Bullshit.  In any other crime/punishment scenario I can think of, whether dealing with private organizations or the law, you break a rule, get sentenced to a finite punishment, serve your time, and that's it.  The IFBB could have "sentenced" him to permanent expulsion, but they didn't, they gave him 12 months.  He served his time...  let him back in!

Bullshit? You said...and I quote: "If it's true...."

I answered....it's not. That answers the rest of your question....

Whats the rest of your rhetoric have to do with that?

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2008, 07:08:34 PM »
There will be a meeting right before the Olympia (two or so days before the Mr. O), and hopefully, the issue of Lee Priest and others will be discussed.  If all goes well, then perhaps Lee can and will compete in the 2009 Ironman.  Lee made his own bed by not only competing in another organization, but most importantly, saying and disrespecting the IFBB.

And yes, the IFBB, and in some ways the NPC, are the premier organizations of amatuer and professional bodybuilding, figure and fitness in the US, so naturally, supplement companies, competitors, and many others work with them.  


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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2008, 07:08:40 PM »
if the IFBB is the "only viable option" then why is manion so concerned about competing outside the IFBB?
he apparently has no problem with Jay,Gustavo,Troy and other guest posing outside the IFBB.

As there is so little money in bodybuilding, why limit the lower tier athletes income by restricting where they compete?
If the IFBB really cared about the athletes, then there should be no concern about competeing/guest posing elsewhere to make a few bucks.


It's their rules that made them the only show in town...from their perspective,why would they deviate from that?

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Re: What you may not realize about Bob Chic and his IFBB loyalty
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2008, 07:10:01 PM »
if the IFBB is the "only viable option" then why is manion so concerned about competing outside the IFBB?
he apparently has no problem with Jay,Gustavo,Troy and other guest posing outside the IFBB.

As there is so little money in bodybuilding, why limit the lower tier athletes income by restricting where they compete?
If the IFBB really cared about the athletes, then there should be no concern about competeing/guest posing elsewhere to make a few bucks.


the ifbb gives you fame and shit man... to be a pro should be something highly seen as... and you should stick to the ifbb... to be a pro should be respected man..