Why isn't natural bodybuilding a bigger deal?

[MCWAY]

Hahahahahaha! You always MELT like baby holding a popcicle in the summertime.

AHHHHH!!!!

What manner of Blockhead's foolish drivel would be complete without the woefully unoriginal "Hahahaha!" Meltdown routine?

[Thin Lizzy]

AHHHHH!!!!

What manner of Blockhead's foolish drivel would be complete without the woefully unoriginal "Hahahaha!" Meltdown routine?

LOL

His lack of intelligence is equalled only by his lack of originality.

[Blockhead]

LOL

His lack of intelligence is equalled only by his lack of originality.

Stay out of it, SCHMOE... Go back to the female boards and pretend like you have a chance if you act sweet, witty and clever giving women compliments. Tool.

[BayGBM]

AHHHHH!!!!

What manner of Blockhead's foolish drivel would be complete without the woefully unoriginal "Hahahaha!" Meltdown routine?

You put a hurt on him!  Mercy! 

[Thin Lizzy]

Stay out of it, SCHMOE... Go back to the female boards and pretend like you have a chance if you act sweet, witty and clever giving women compliments. Tool.

Hahaha

Sorry to break it to you, Baldy, but, a guy who is a dead ringer for Uncle Fester is disqualified from calling anybody a SCHMOE.

[Blockhead]

You put a hurt on him!  Mercy! 

I bet you do know that kind of hurt, Elton John.   

[MCWAY]

With all the gyms now ,supplement companies,and negatove steroid press, you would think that drug free bodybuilding would be a bigger deal. Sadly, most drug testing shows and sanctions are small, low budget operations.I have often thought that a true drug free bodybuilding organization with the right name and $$ behind it, would be a bigger success than the current IFBB pro div.
Of course, I am also the guy that said this after someone told me,in 1999, that Texas GOV. G. W Bush would be the next president . " That guy can barely complete a sentence, who would ever vote for that numbnut?" Well, Bushy got elected not once but twice and the IFBB is still light years ahead of any natural organization...go figure

There's also the matter of determining how long someone has to be drug-free to be considered "natural". A year? Three years? Five years? Natural for life?

How do you implement the program? Simple urinalysis? Polygraph? Both?

And who gets tested (because drug-testing ain't cheap): Everybody? Just the top 5 per class (for the amateurs)/those who place in the money (for the pros)?

[Blockhead]

Hahaha

Sorry to break it to you, Baldy, but, a guy who is a dead ringer for Uncle Fester is disqualified from calling anybody a SCHMOE.

Being bald means that one must be a schmoe then, huh? WOW...you're brilliant. You're a fetish freak schmoe and everybody knows it. Tool.

[Thin Lizzy]

Being bald means that one must be a schmoe then, huh? WOW...you're brilliant. You're a fetish freak schmoe and everybody knows it. Tool.

Don't hate because chicks dig me, but, see you as desirable as a yeast infection.

[Nordic Beast]

I'm happy you understand that distinction.  When I ask girls if they like male bodybuilders they often follow up by asking me whether or not I like female bodybuilders which doesn't make much sense to me because muscle is hyper-masculine, and it would make more sense if I like Kate Moss for example, who is extremely thin (if we look at thin as being a feminine trait, then Kate Moss would be hyper-feminine.

exactly matt----------I dont understand how people dont clearly see this

this is not appealing its abominable

[Arnold jr]

Yeah, but consider that the figure/fitness girls are lot more marketable then the pro female bodybuilders.
Plus, look at the winners of the typical beauty contest or even bikini contest, etc.
I think that IFBB has a steady, devoted hardcore crowd that wants the freaks. But this crowd is limited and won't grow. A natural , more mainstream kind of physique contest would have huge potential, just like when figure came in and outpaced the female bodybuilders.

See I disagree...it could easily grow IMO. The problem is not that there aren't enough people left to induce more growth...the problem is the IFBB does not market itself in the best fashion IMO. It seem to me that nearly all the marketing is aimed at current fans...there is hardly ever anything done to try and branch out to knew audiences. As far as what needs to be done to remedy this problem, well I'm not a marketing genius, dint' claim to be...but if the IFBB could some how add some sort of glam/flashy appeal to itself just like every other sport on the planet does and every thing that is deemed sport on ESPN, i.e. poker...then it would be doing something IMO.

[jonno gb]

There's also the matter of determining how long someone has to be drug-free to be considered "natural". A year? Three years? Five years? Natural for life?

How do you implement the program? Simple urinalysis? Polygraph? Both?

And who gets tested (because drug-testing ain't cheap): Everybody? Just the top 5 per class (for the amateurs)/those who place in the money (for the pros)?

Sadly most of the time you have to rely on the integrity of the competitor.A full spectrum urinalysis by UK-Sports costs approx £300($600?) so only a small number can be tested each show.There have been a number of cheats caught in the past few years though including the 2007 Overall British Champion,Chris Jones-who was stripped of his titles,had to return his trophies and received a lifetime ban.

[dearth]

Has nasshole given into your sexual advances yet?

have you met his underwear purchase minimum criteria yet?

Yes, they love the freaks. Look at a guy like Nasser, 300 rock solid pounds with a perfect cock.

but no one wants to see naturals. Naturals look like complete shit and everyone laughs at their pitiful bodies.

even the old school were running plenty of gear.
physiques with no gear look like shit. the ones that don't are guys denying they used.

[Jeffro]

exactly matt----------I dont understand how people dont clearly see this

this is not appealing its abominable

How could a woman do this to herself     thats just atrocious

[New Hank Wood]

ouch

[Nordic Beast]

what the hell happened----a mod delete all the pics in this thread

the pics I posted were not pornographic or inappropriate in any way-----what the fuck!!!!!!

[Moosejay]

Because I can think of no bigger sham for so called nat bb as the INBF/WNBF

[Epic_Monster]

Yes, they love the freaks. Look at a guy like Nasser, 300 rock solid pounds with perfect abs.

but no one wants to see naturals. Naturals look like complete shit and everyone laughs at their pitiful bodies.

even the old school were running plenty of gear.
physiques with no gear look like shit. the ones that don't are guys denying they used.

Get Nasser's balls out of your mouth so you can breathe.

[TheTerrifyer]

A. Natural bodybuilders are small, with true naturals almost never competing above 200 pounds. Chances are there will be people in the audience above 200 pounds and fairly lean.

B. Everyone knows the people competing at natural shows are geared up anyway, so why watch pretenders?

[mwbbuilder]

As you know, bodybuilding’s appeal lies in the freak factor.  People like to see big freaky physiques that they couldn’t see otherwise.  Why pay to go to a natural show when you can see the same physiques (or bigger physiques) in your local gym, at the beach, etc.?  People like to push the envelope and audiences want to see the envelope pushed.  Physiques have gotten a lot bigger over the years—not smaller.  If the bodies got smaller people would stop going.  Bodybuilding is a fringe sport; natural bodybuilding is a fringe within a fringe.

very well said

[CQ]

If they're so marketable, why hasn't a single one of them acheived any kind of mainstream success?

Not any level of massive success, but some have done a few things. IFBB fitness pro Kim Lyons was the Trainer of Biggest loser, Madonna Grimes & Tsiianna[?] Joelson hosted MTV workout shows, Alicia Marie has also been on MTV and modeled for a few mainstream companies. Julie Shipley models for some mainstream companies. A few are on American Gladiators. Lisa Varon and some more went on to WWE wrestling.

Nothing huge like mega stars or anything, but compared to female bodybuilders - they are definitely more marketable.

[MCWAY]

Because I can think of no bigger sham for so called nat bb as the INBF/WNBF

And this federation is a "sham" because........

[Nordic Beast]

And this federation is a "sham" because........

...they aren't natural shit for brains

[whateva]

Top WNBF Pros

[Nordic Beast]

Those delts are a dead giveaway of a juiced BBer