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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #100 on: March 09, 2011, 11:18:33 AM »
if it has to do with this topic, if not it's pointless

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #101 on: March 09, 2011, 11:18:54 AM »
::)  

do you ant me to show clips of this guy getting schooled by Schiff?  

Hahaha, ask this clown to explain in his own words and he copy/pastes some lines from the article he just posted. This uneducated douche is, once again, done. What an embarrassingly stupid person.

Beach Bum really ought to start deleting his troll posts from this board.

2 pages of Blacken and Mal posting today and they still can't explain why the speculators have driven the price up. Says a lot.

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #102 on: March 09, 2011, 11:21:01 AM »
well this embarrassingly stupid person doesn't live with his mother, how about yourself yes or no simple question

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #103 on: March 09, 2011, 11:22:26 AM »
well this embarrassingly stupid person doesn't live with his mother, how about yourself yes or no simple question

???

You live in your parent's basement.

I almost feel sorry for you. You're not actually capable of thinking for yourself. You can't even formulate a response to the simple question I asked without ripping off someone else's opinion. Perfect example of the failure that is the American education system.

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #104 on: March 09, 2011, 11:23:34 AM »
i have my own home,so do you live with mommy yes or no ???

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #105 on: March 09, 2011, 11:25:06 AM »
well this embarrassingly stupid person doesn't live with his mother, how about yourself yes or no simple question

Amazing - we have been predictng the natural and predictable effects of QE2 for months now and you idiots still are in denial and now want to blame "speculators" for food, oil, gold, silver, wheat, etc in order to shift blame away from the WWWWTTTTFFFF policies of obama/bernake et al.  


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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #106 on: March 09, 2011, 11:25:40 AM »
Haha, of course you do.

You claimed you didn't run any gimmick accounts yet you've been caught out on at least six now.
You claimed to be a millionaire Wall St. investor (you're not).
You claimed to be a pilot AND a soldier that fought in three wars (you didn't).
You claimed to run your own successful multi-million dollar business (you don't).

:D :D :D :D

Notice Blacken changes the subject anytime you ask him even the most simplest of questions? Thanks for playing, high school dropout.  8)

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #107 on: March 09, 2011, 11:26:04 AM »
i have my own home,so do you live with mommy yes or no ???

Cardboard box in Penn Station does not count.  

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #108 on: March 09, 2011, 11:26:12 AM »
Dubbed “Johnny of Arabia” by the Wall Street Journal, John D’Agostino is a Harvard Business School graduate who became the youngest vice president at the New York Mercantile Exchange – the world’s largest energy derivatives exchange – and spearheaded the Exchange’s breakthrough international partnership: the first ever Middle Eastern based energy exchange, the Dubai Mercantile Exchange (DME). He is the main character in New York Times best-selling author Ben Mezrich’s book, Rigged: The True Story of an Ivy League Kid Who Changed the World of Oil, which chronicles how this Italian-American from Brooklyn conquered Harvard Business School and helped revolutionize the world of oil and energy trading exchanges.

i think he knows a little more than a couple of guys that post on getbig

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #109 on: March 09, 2011, 11:27:22 AM »
do you live with mommy yes or no, are you ashamed to answer ???

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #110 on: March 09, 2011, 11:28:09 AM »
Cardboard box in Penn Station does not count.  

It's clear that he still lives with mommy and daddy. And it's also clear that he's one of the 1/3 of Americans that leeches their benefits from the govt.

Dubbed “Johnny of Arabia” by the Wall Street Journal, John D’Agostino is a Harvard Business School graduate who became the youngest vice president at the New York Mercantile Exchange – the world’s largest energy derivatives exchange – and spearheaded the Exchange’s breakthrough international partnership: the first ever Middle Eastern based energy exchange, the Dubai Mercantile Exchange (DME). He is the main character in New York Times best-selling author Ben Mezrich’s book, Rigged: The True Story of an Ivy League Kid Who Changed the World of Oil, which chronicles how this Italian-American from Brooklyn conquered Harvard Business School and helped revolutionize the world of oil and energy trading exchanges.

i think he knows a little more that a couple of guys that post on getbig

Once again, he didn't say anything in that article beyond "the speculators did it". Your reading comprehension skills are pretty sad.

Why are you incapable of formulating your own opinion without copy/pasting something someone else wrote? Are you really that stupid?

do you live with mommy yes or no, are you ashamed to answer ???

i have my own home,so do you live with mommy yes or no

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #111 on: March 09, 2011, 11:28:36 AM »
Yeah, because again you got obliterated.   Wake up already and smell the Kenyan Coffee 

Dude i destroyed like 6 of your threads... and you still havent come up with why we got record prices and record profits with lower demand

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #112 on: March 09, 2011, 11:29:17 AM »
Dude i destroyed like 6 of your threads... and you still havent come up with why we got record prices and record profits with lower demand

Lower demand? Here was I thinking that China was consuming more oil per day than at any other point in their history. Silly me.

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #113 on: March 09, 2011, 11:29:46 AM »
D'Agostino: No, no, no, I don't know about that. What we know for a fact is that we have a weak dollar. We have global demand that's staying put, no matter how much the price has gone up. [A weakened dollar means you need more dollars to buy the same amount of oil, hence a higher price.]


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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #114 on: March 09, 2011, 11:30:58 AM »
Dude i destroyed like 6 of your threads... and you still havent come up with why we got record prices and record profits with lower demand

I addressed that in a different thread fool, and you know that.   

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #115 on: March 09, 2011, 11:31:16 AM »
why didn't you just answer the first time, and yes i have my own house

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #116 on: March 09, 2011, 11:31:37 AM »
D'Agostino: No, no, no, I don't know about that. What we know for a fact is that we have a weak dollar. We have global demand that's staying put, no matter how much the price has gone up. [A weakened dollar means you need more dollars to buy the same amount of oil, hence a higher price.]


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Hahaha, blacken just owned himself with that post. Truly a dumb ass. Also proof that he doesn't even read what he copy/pastes.  :D :D :D :D

About time to wrap this thread up.

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #117 on: March 09, 2011, 11:31:58 AM »
Lower demand? Here was I thinking that China was consuming more oil per day than at any other point in their history. Silly me.

i was talking about in 08 when gas hit $4.50/gal

do you want to make a bet that petro usage decreased in Q2-Q4 of 08?

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #118 on: March 09, 2011, 11:32:47 AM »
i was talking about in 08 when gas hit $4.50/gal

do you want to make a bet that petro usage decreased in Q2-Q4 of 08?

Petro usage dropped in Q2-Q4? Really? Couldn't have had anything to do with gas hitting $4.50/gal.......

You do realize that the drop in demand is what drove the price back down, right? Or are you actually arguing that the drop in demand was what drove prices up in the first place?

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #119 on: March 09, 2011, 11:36:20 AM »
D'Agostino: No, no, no, I don't know about that. What we know for a fact is that we have a weak dollar. We have global demand that's staying put, no matter how much the price has gone up. [A weakened dollar means you need more dollars to buy the same amount of oil, hence a higher price.]


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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #120 on: March 09, 2011, 11:44:40 AM »
QE2 = Lower USD = Higher Oil Prices = More Economic Pain
by: Michael Fitzsimmons November 11, 2010
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CNBC marches out one "expert economist" after another in their quest to figure out what is wrong with the U.S. economy, whether QE2 will work, how can jobs be created, etc. etc.

It's amazing how seldom America's reliance on foreign oil imports is mentioned in these conversations. The U.S. imports around 12,000,000 a day at a current price of $87/dollars a barrel. This equates to over $1 billion dollars a day ($1,044,000,000) and $381 billion a year.

According to the Commerce Department, the U.S. trade deficit in September was $44 billion. This is clearly unsustainable, yet how often does one hear that over $30 billion dollars of this deficit is due to one commodity alone: foreign oil imports? Logically, the U.S. cannot reduce the wealth flowing out of the country without significantly reducing foreign oil imports.

Some of the commenters on my articles believe my opinions are some leftist plot. This isn't a "left" or "right" or even an "environmental" issue. This is arithmetic. This is a patriotic American looking pragmatically at America's problems and saying, hey, we aren't even trying to fix the problem. The U.S. has yet to even take a baby step in the right direction by adopting a strategic long-term comprehensive energy policy.

And there is apparently no hope America will take adult steps by adopting the only technology that can significantly reduce foreign oil imports by using a domestically available, cheap, and clean fuel: natural gas transportation.

So, what are we doing? The best solution our policymakers can come up with is QE2. How can our foreign oil import problem be solved by the Fed printing more money via QE2 or any other financial tom-foolery? I am an engineer by training, but let me offer an equation for U.S. economic policymakers to consider:

QE2 --> lower dollar --> higher oil prices -> more economic pain for the U.S.

It's really that simple. It's the equivalent of economic "thermal runaway".

After the world complained when Nixon walked away from the Bretton Woods agreement, U.S. Treasury secretary John Conally famously said "Our currency, your problem."

I would rephrase this today as "Fitzsimmons' Law of Economics": "Their oil, our problem."

The solution, of course, is natural gas transportation. We could easily lop 5,000,000 barrels a day off our foreign oil import bill within 5 years by adopting natural gas transportation. At today's $87/barrel, that is $435 million dollars a day of "stimulus" that would stay inside the country creating millions of well-paying jobs. Such a program would re-industrialize and re-invigorate the U.S. economy. We could enter an era of economic prosperity for decades into the future. Oh, and by the way, we'd have a cleaner environment. If economic and environmental prosperity is a leftist plot, then please, by all means, label me a "leftist".

But alas, the powers-that-be (and they control both Dems and Repubs) won't hear of it. They'd rather watch their and their children's country go down the tubes sucking on the teat of foreign oil producers. So what is an U.S. investor to do? I would suggest buying big oil: Chevron (CVX), Conoco Phillips (COP), Exxon Mobil (XOM), and smaller companies such as Marathon (MRO), Murphy Oil (MUR), and Occidental (OXY). These companies are going to thrive as failed U.S. economic policy, combined with emerging market demand, provide a strong tailwind for oil prices to climb higher and higher over the coming years. In fact, the Federal Reserve and Ben Bernanke are the best friends an oil executive could have.

Disclosure: Long COP

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #121 on: March 09, 2011, 11:50:52 AM »
QE2 = Lower USD = Higher Oil Prices = More Economic Pain
by: Michael Fitzsimmons November 11, 2010
www.seeingalpha.com


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CNBC marches out one "expert economist" after another in their quest to figure out what is wrong with the U.S. economy, whether QE2 will work, how can jobs be created, etc. etc.

It's amazing how seldom America's reliance on foreign oil imports is mentioned in these conversations. The U.S. imports around 12,000,000 a day at a current price of $87/dollars a barrel. This equates to over $1 billion dollars a day ($1,044,000,000) and $381 billion a year.

According to the Commerce Department, the U.S. trade deficit in September was $44 billion. This is clearly unsustainable, yet how often does one hear that over $30 billion dollars of this deficit is due to one commodity alone: foreign oil imports? Logically, the U.S. cannot reduce the wealth flowing out of the country without significantly reducing foreign oil imports.

Some of the commenters on my articles believe my opinions are some leftist plot. This isn't a "left" or "right" or even an "environmental" issue. This is arithmetic. This is a patriotic American looking pragmatically at America's problems and saying, hey, we aren't even trying to fix the problem. The U.S. has yet to even take a baby step in the right direction by adopting a strategic long-term comprehensive energy policy.

And there is apparently no hope America will take adult steps by adopting the only technology that can significantly reduce foreign oil imports by using a domestically available, cheap, and clean fuel: natural gas transportation.

So, what are we doing? The best solution our policymakers can come up with is QE2. How can our foreign oil import problem be solved by the Fed printing more money via QE2 or any other financial tom-foolery? I am an engineer by training, but let me offer an equation for U.S. economic policymakers to consider:

QE2 --> lower dollar --> higher oil prices -> more economic pain for the U.S.

It's really that simple. It's the equivalent of economic "thermal runaway".

After the world complained when Nixon walked away from the Bretton Woods agreement, U.S. Treasury secretary John Conally famously said "Our currency, your problem."

I would rephrase this today as "Fitzsimmons' Law of Economics": "Their oil, our problem."

The solution, of course, is natural gas transportation. We could easily lop 5,000,000 barrels a day off our foreign oil import bill within 5 years by adopting natural gas transportation. At today's $87/barrel, that is $435 million dollars a day of "stimulus" that would stay inside the country creating millions of well-paying jobs. Such a program would re-industrialize and re-invigorate the U.S. economy. We could enter an era of economic prosperity for decades into the future. Oh, and by the way, we'd have a cleaner environment. If economic and environmental prosperity is a leftist plot, then please, by all means, label me a "leftist".

But alas, the powers-that-be (and they control both Dems and Repubs) won't hear of it. They'd rather watch their and their children's country go down the tubes sucking on the teat of foreign oil producers. So what is an U.S. investor to do? I would suggest buying big oil: Chevron (CVX), Conoco Phillips (COP), Exxon Mobil (XOM), and smaller companies such as Marathon (MRO), Murphy Oil (MUR), and Occidental (OXY). These companies are going to thrive as failed U.S. economic policy, combined with emerging market demand, provide a strong tailwind for oil prices to climb higher and higher over the coming years. In fact, the Federal Reserve and Ben Bernanke are the best friends an oil executive could have.

Disclosure: Long COP


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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #122 on: March 09, 2011, 11:53:48 AM »
Notice the date of the article!   

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #123 on: March 09, 2011, 11:58:10 AM »
Petro usage dropped in Q2-Q4? Really? Couldn't have had anything to do with gas hitting $4.50/gal.......
You do realize that the drop in demand is what drove the price back down, right? Or are you actually arguing that the drop in demand was what drove prices up in the first place?

yes..and usage went down...meaning less people went to buy gas but the profits were still record...how is that?

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Re: Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
« Reply #124 on: March 09, 2011, 12:49:20 PM »
It's sad that both 'sides' in this argument are somewhat right, yet they argue on as if one specific reason is behind this.  It's a combination of many things not least of which is fear of dwindling supply, more expensive methods of extraction and increased demand in developing countries.
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