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McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« on: May 23, 2008, 04:22:24 PM »
Doh!  "And I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did," the Arizona senator said in a harshly worded statement issued Thursday.

McCain, Obama Spar on GI Bill

Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:30 PM

Republican John McCain said Thursday that Democrat Barack Obama had no right to criticize McCain's position on military scholarships because the Illinois senator did not serve in uniform.

"And I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did," the Arizona senator said in a harshly worded statement issued Thursday.

McCain lashed out at Obama's personal history despite Obama's repeated praise of McCain's military service. As Obama said Tuesday night in Des Moines, Iowa: "We face an opponent, John McCain, who arrived in Washington nearly three decades ago as a Vietnam War hero, and earned an admirable reputation for straight talk and occasional independence from his party."

McCain was a Navy fighter pilot who was shot down and spent nearly six years as a Vietnam prisoner of war. At age 46, Obama is too young to have been drafted or fought in Vietnam. Direct U.S. military involvement in the Vietnam War officially ended in 1973, the same year the military draft was ended and replaced by an all-volunteer military.

The candidates' criticism of each other has grown increasingly acrimonious in recent weeks, a sign of things to come in the general election campaign.

At issue is an expansion of the GI bill that would guarantee full college scholarships for those who serve in the military for three years. The Democratic-led Senate passed the measure, sponsored by Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., and supported by Obama, on Thursday by a 75-22 vote as 25 Republicans abandoned President Bush, who opposed it.

Obama and his rival, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, returned to Washington for the vote. McCain stayed in California to campaign and raise money.

McCain opposes the measure, as does the Pentagon, out of concern that providing such a benefit after only three years of service would encourage people to leave the military after completing only one enlistment even as the U.S. fights two wars and is trying to increase the size of the Army and Marine Corps.

Instead, McCain and Republican colleagues proposed a bill to increase benefits in conjunction with a veteran's length of service. Senate Democrats blocked the measure last week.

"Most worrying to me is that by hurting retention, we will reduce the numbers of men and women who we train to become the backbone of all the services, the noncommissioned officer," McCain said in his statement.

While McCain was joined on the campaign trail in California by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, former Gov. Pete Wilson and former eBay CEO Meg Whitman, Obama reiterated his respect for McCain's service in a speech on the Senate floor.

"He is one of those heroes of which I speak," Obama said. "But I can't understand why he would line up behind the president in his opposition to this GI bill. I can't believe why he believes it is too generous to our veterans. I could not disagree with him and the president more on this issue. There are many issues that lend themselves to partisan posturing, but giving our veterans the chance to go to college should not be one of them."

McCain's campaign said Obama was getting personal by suggesting McCain considered the bill too generous to veterans and by raising the issue of partisan posturing.

In his statement, McCain accused Obama of being motivated by politics.

"Perhaps if Senator Obama would take the time and trouble to understand this issue, he would learn to debate an honest disagreement respectfully," McCain said. "But, as he always does, he prefers impugning the motives of his opponent, and exploiting a thoughtful difference of opinion to advance his own ambitions."

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/mccain_gi_bill/2008/05/22/98293.html

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2008, 04:26:40 PM »
Obama must have been confused during his 1 trip to Iraq, figuring that qualified him.
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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2008, 04:53:02 PM »
McBush crashed 5 jets. any pilot w/o "family connections" is permanently grounded after 2 accidents. McBush deserved to be tortured ! 


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He's a war hero for dropping bombs on Vietnamese kids.

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2008, 06:44:17 PM »
He's a war hero for dropping bombs on Vietnamese kids.

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2008, 07:37:20 PM »
Mccain needs to drink his prune juice and STFU.

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2008, 09:27:33 PM »
Mccain needs to drink his prune juice and STFU.
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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2008, 09:52:40 PM »
He's a war hero for dropping bombs on Vietnamese kids.

And yet I'm sure you supported John "Yes We're All War Criminals" Kerry.  Hypoctracy, Liberal be Thy Name.

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2008, 10:11:03 PM »
And yet I'm sure you supported John "Yes We're All War Criminals" Kerry.  Hypoctracy, Liberal be Thy Name.

Takes a man to admit that he was wrong.

Takes a weasel to claim heroism from crashing 5 jets and being held captive by the supposed enemy in an absolutely meaningless war.

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2008, 10:18:32 PM »
Takes a man to admit that he was wrong.

Takes a weasel to claim heroism from crashing 5 jets and being held captive by the supposed enemy in an absolutely meaningless war.

Ok are you the man admitting you are wrong?

Or are you the weasel attacking McCain?

Wrong Man or Attacking Weasel? Which are you?

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2008, 11:25:06 PM »
Ok are you the man admitting you are wrong?

Or are you the weasle attacking McCain?

Wrong Man or Attacking Weasle? Which are you?

What's a "weasle," ken starr wannabe? 


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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2008, 11:29:55 PM »
neither mccain nor obama can brag.

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2008, 05:44:35 AM »
McBush crashed 5 jets.

That's nothing, he crashed an entire country!  :o

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2008, 06:07:44 AM »
Everyone should have to do two years in the active military and three years reserve duty.

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2008, 06:47:42 AM »
Serving a year or two in the military would likely change the shit attitudes of many of the youth in this country.

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2008, 09:49:13 AM »
Didn't realize there are so many countries with a mandatory military service requirement.

3.1 Albania
3.2 Armenia
3.3 Austria
3.4 Belarus
3.5 Bermuda
3.6 Brazil
3.7 China (PRC)
3.8 Colombia
3.9 Cyprus
3.10 Denmark
3.11 Egypt
3.12 Finland
3.13 Germany
3.14 Greece
3.14.1 Conscientious objection to military service (Greece)
3.15 Iran
3.16 Israel
3.17 South Korea
3.18 Mexico
3.19 Norway
3.20 Poland
3.21 Russia
3.22 Serbia
3.23 Singapore
3.24 Sweden
3.25 Switzerland
3.26 Taiwan (ROC)
3.27 Turkey
3.28 Ukraine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_service

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2008, 11:15:03 AM »
Didn't realize there are so many countries with a mandatory military service requirement.

3.1 Albania
3.2 Armenia
3.3 Austria
3.4 Belarus
3.5 Bermuda
3.6 Brazil
3.7 China (PRC)
3.8 Colombia
3.9 Cyprus
3.10 Denmark
3.11 Egypt
3.12 Finland
3.13 Germany
3.14 Greece
3.14.1 Conscientious objection to military service (Greece)
3.15 Iran
3.16 Israel
3.17 South Korea
3.18 Mexico
3.19 Norway
3.20 Poland
3.21 Russia
3.22 Serbia
3.23 Singapore
3.24 Sweden
3.25 Switzerland
3.26 Taiwan (ROC)
3.27 Turkey
3.28 Ukraine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_service

Feel free to take your misbegotten spawn and move to serbia as soon as possible. Thanks in advance.

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2008, 11:36:41 AM »
Feel free to take your misbegotten spawn and move to serbia as soon as possible. Thanks in advance.

Beach bum never served his country. 

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2008, 12:36:06 PM »
Feel free to take your misbegotten spawn and move to serbia as soon as possible. Thanks in advance.

Possibly the only thing callous has posted that I agree with:

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2008, 12:47:07 PM »
Possibly the only thing callous has posted that I agree with:


HAhahahaha.  You're a sad man. 

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2008, 01:54:17 PM »
He's a war hero for dropping bombs on Vietnamese kids.

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2008, 06:14:07 PM »
Everyone should have to do two years in the active military and three years reserve duty.



Yes.  This would complete our Fascist development.

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2008, 06:54:27 PM »


Yes.  This would complete our Fascist development.

Yeah.

I really hate the idea that you have to serve in the military in order to care about this country. Forget about speaking out on important issues! Just follow like a duimbass, or join the marines.   ::)

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2008, 08:27:20 PM »
Yeah.

I really hate the idea that you have to serve in the military in order to care about this country. Forget about speaking out on important issues! Just follow like a duimbass, or join the marines.   ::)

You don't have to serve to care about the country or be a patriot. 

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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2008, 05:33:25 PM »
No u don't but feel free not to comment negatively on the sacrifices others have made in ur place.  Also the dumbass Marines comments...and associated stuff that makes the military seem like idiots. I can tell u that most of u couldn't even remotely comprehend how advanced our militray is, how techical and complicated what we do is, and how hard it is to do what we do. The level of sophistication is beyond anything u can imagine. So bring on the "how come ur loosing to a bunch of untrained idiots with AK's. Well because u lib pricks won't let us carpet bomb the dogshit out of them.
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Re: McCain: You Didn't Serve, So Shut Up
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2008, 07:02:01 PM »
No u don't but feel free not to comment negatively on the sacrifices others have made in ur place.  Also the dumbass Marines comments...and associated stuff that makes the military seem like idiots. I can tell u that most of u couldn't even remotely comprehend how advanced our militray is, how techical and complicated what we do is, and how hard it is to do what we do. The level of sophistication is beyond anything u can imagine. So bring on the "how come ur loosing to a bunch of untrained idiots with AK's. Well because u lib pricks won't let us carpet bomb the dogshit out of them.

The level of sophistication is so great that it circled back around to stupidity.