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    ok Matt i like you (but i like poking fun at u even more)
    every review on ur site says " i give this supplement 5 stars!/i gained 10 lbs in a week!",or something similar
  if that were true you would easily be over 500 lbs ripped by now!

           and don't come at me with ur "strawman attacks"   beotch!

Most of those reviews are protein powders and bars and so on.  I demand a lot less of supplements like that than I do of anabolic supplements like creatine based supplements for example.

Examples of negative reviews on my website (not a complete list):

DREAM TAN (2/10):

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/dreamtanprofessionalself-tanningsprayreview.html

MuscleTech NANO VAPOR (3.33/10):

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/muscletechnanovaporreview2.html

Gaspari SUPERPUMP250 (no score, but I said I would not buy it again and mentioned that my friend jokingly referred to it as "SuperDump2Shitty" due to the severe gastrointestinal side effects it causes):

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gasparinutritionsuperpump250review.html

Vyo-Tech 17-HD (no score, but an obvious recommendation not to buy it):

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/vyotech17hdreview.html
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lol!

you gave dream tan and a nose clipper a bad review!......every bb.com product got 5 stars


total scam you have zero credibility

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Just a tip for those dim people like Arvilla on here and others like him who have no clue on how to effectively prove their point.  Generally speaking, it is slightly easier to convince others of your claims if you have evidence to go with it.

every bb.com product got 5 stars

This is easily refutable as long as I provide even one BB.com supplement which I gave less than "5 stars" to (not sure where you got the idea that I rate on a star system though):

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/higherpowernoxsreview.html

This is average compared to other NO products on the market, and after trying beta-alanine products, I would not use NO-XS again.  I highly recommend against it.  At the time, I had not been fully introduced to beta-alanine supplements so I merely said it was average.  However, knowing what I know now, I am definitely opposed to any NO supplements, and NO-XS in particular.
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Dude you like Gakic!!!!......biggest "scam" out there/does absolutely nothing!  zip zero nada!

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/muscletechgakicreview.html




Game over!



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here is the "breakdown" Matt reviews supplements favorably (using his website.you-tube videos,and now even Get-Big)
then he tries to "peddle them" from his website ,if you go to his site and look http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/supplementreviews.html

nothing he "sells" gets even a "mediocre" review /everything "put 10 lbs of pure muscle on me in a week"!!!

you should work for Muscletech dude..................yo ur a phony and a fraud!

fuck you

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here is the "breakdown" Matt reviews supplements favorably (using his website.you-tube videos,and now even Get-Big)
then he tries to "peddle them" from his website ,if you go to his site and look http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/supplementreviews.html

nothing he "sells" gets even a "mediocre" review /everything "put 10 lbs of pure muscle on me in a week"!!!

you should work for Muscletech dude..................your a phony and a fraud!

fuck you

The correct spelling is "you're".  I thought I already explained that.
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Dude you like Gakic!!!!......biggest "scam" out there/does absolutely nothing!  zip zero nada!

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/muscletechgakicreview.html
Game over!
I remember that stuff. I was given some at a store opening. Wouldn't mix and tasted like vacuum cleaner bag lint. Ended up giving the container away after only 3-4 servings.  :-X

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Matt isn't biased! He gave DreamTan a 2/10!! He used it for two weeks and only put on two pounds of muscle!

He also reviewed some other lousy products and gave them no rating, ostensibly because he "obviously didn't like them". Huh? Interesting use of flawed logic.

Really Matt, how exactly did you come to review Dream Tan? Did you diet down for 12 weeks and apply the Dream Tan for the three days preceding Mr. Thunder Bay? Or did you see an opportunity to give a product a "negative" review without risking any consequences, considering it's their only product.

Please provide details and evidence to support your review of Dream Tan.
On behalf of your loyal readership, I'll be seeking evidence for your other reviews as well.

PS. Why did you remove your Anti-Semitic post about the Weiders?
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I remember that stuff. I was given some at a store opening. Wouldn't mix and tasted like vacuum cleaner bag lint. Ended up giving the container away after only 3-4 servings.  :-X

Come to think of it, it was nearly impossible to mix.  Kind of like Purple Wraath by Controlled Labs.  Takes a lot longer to mix it properly.
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Matt isn't biased! He gave DreamTan a 2/10!! He used it for two weeks and only put on two pounds of muscle!

He also reviewed some other lousy products and gave them no rating, ostensibly because he "obviously didn't like them". Huh? Interesting use of flawed logic.

Really Matt, how exactly did you come to review Dream Tan? Did you diet down for 12 weeks and apply the Dream Tan for the three days preceding Mr. Thunder Bay? Or did you see an opportunity to give a product a "negative" review without risking any consequences, considering it's their only product.

Please provide details and evidence to support your review of Dream Tan.
On behalf of your loyal readership, I'll be seeking evidence for your other reviews as well.

PS. Why did you remove your Anti-Semitic post about the Weiders?

Sounds to me like you did not even click on the review to read it.  It is not even written by me, but by my friend Dave:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/dreamtanprofessionalself-tanningsprayreview.html

He's 6'3 and about my weight, but very lean.



I didn't remove any posts, but I think Ron did.  The search engine on Simple Machines forums suck, making it nearly impossible to search for some things.  That's good that you are going out of your way to actually find these supposed anti-semitic posts I made since that's what I keep demanding - that people show me what I said specifically that was so offensive.
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Matt isn't biased! He gave DreamTan a 2/10!! He used it for two weeks and only put on two pounds of muscle!

He also reviewed some other lousy products and gave them no rating, ostensibly because he "obviously didn't like them". Huh? Interesting use of flawed logic.

Really Matt, how exactly did you come to review Dream Tan? Did you diet down for 12 weeks and apply the Dream Tan for the three days preceding Mr. Thunder Bay? Or did you see an opportunity to give a product a "negative" review without risking any consequences, considering it's their only product.

Please provide details and evidence to support your review of Dream Tan.
On behalf of your loyal readership, I'll be seeking evidence for your other reviews as well.

PS. Why did you remove your Anti-Semitic post about the Weiders?
i'd love to read the anti-semetic posts should they be located, thanks in advance.

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i'd love to read the anti-semetic posts should they be located, thanks in advance.

Same here.  I didn't delete any of my posts, although a very big Matt C thread did get removed.

I would also love for people to submit me their reviews for the worst supplements they have ever tried.  It will add to the credibility of the database if user submissions are included.  Also, all the forum threads related to each supplement review are unmoderated.
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I just finished this:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/sixstarmuscleprofessionalstrengthwheyproteinreview.html

That is a pretty normal review from me.  Can someone please point out where the bias is?  Please?  Please I'm begging you.  :'(
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I just finished this:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/sixstarmuscleprofessionalstrengthwheyproteinreview.html

That is a pretty normal review from me.  Can someone please point out where the bias is?  Please?  Please I'm begging you.  :'(
with your reputation i wont read it

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with your reputation i wont read it


Perhaps he explains which supplements will help you join the master race.
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M3Pro and Sizeon are the supplements of choice for both the Nazi party and movement.

The youth are given 4 scoops of M3 a day to add 10 lbs in two weeks.

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for what duration do you test these products that would qualify your review.  1 time, 1 week, 1 month, 3 months?  How do you make a determination between scoring something a 3.22 and a 3.25?


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What goes seen on here are all the negative comments directed towards me by the no-brainers.  What goes unseen are the PMs and e-mails I get from people laughing at the credibility of this board or asking me why I put up with it to begin with.  I tell them that it's because this board has the freest speech.

It's cool to collapse the the negative comments made about me and my website by those board members who seem to have upper level mental retardation.

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/vpxhemogexreview.html

Epic biased review.

What's really not being understood here is how poorly this pathetic series of attacks reflects on the members here and even on the board as a whole (and not on me).
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for what duration do you test these products that would qualify your review.  1 time, 1 week, 1 month, 3 months?  How do you make a determination between scoring something a 3.22 and a 3.25?



Depends on the review.  If I use a one-day sample, I make it abundantly clear that the review is based on one day use and to take that for what it's worth:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/advancedmusclesciencehyperpumpreview.html

The shortest reviews will be based on 1-7 days.
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What goes seen on here are all the negative comments directed towards me by the no-brainers.  What goes unseen are the PMs and e-mails I get from people laughing at the credibility of this board or asking me why I put up with it to begin with.  I tell them that it's because this board has the freest speech.

It's cool to collapse the the negative comments made about me and my website by those board members who seem to have upper level mental retardation.

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/vpxhemogexreview.html

Epic biased review.

What's really not being understood here is how poorly this pathetic series of attacks reflects on the members here and even on the board as a whole (and not on me).
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That = because you = a braindead shitfuck. MattCock has not been racistic at all. Perhaps a bit far out on teh jew stuff, but not racistic or A.s. You've got nothing to whine about you c***** *i**** little ***** fucc.

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I just finished this:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/sixstarmuscleprofessionalstrengthwheyproteinreview.html

That is a pretty normal review from me.  Can someone please point out where the bias is?  Please?  Please I'm begging you.  :'(

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"Six Star Professional Strength Whey Protein is a clinically proven anabolic protein formula that's scientifically engineered to force massive muscle growth from your very first serving."

In my view, a claim like this is pretty silly for a protein supplement. It would even be a little extravagant for a creatine supplement, but it is definitely out of place in a claim made for a protein powder. Protein powders are just that - protein. They are really no different than protein from any other sources, albeit generally speaking more bio-available and more convenient. To state that protein from a protein powder source will provide muscle growth over and above protein from another source makes little sense to me, and even if this is true, it would only offer very slight advantages over and above whole foods (due to the lab synthesis which does make the protein more usable by the body).

unless I'm missing something the claim doesn't state protein from a protein powder source will provide muscle growth over and above protein from another source it states " it will force massive muscle growth from your very first serving " which is obviously ridiculous

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"The Professional Strength Whey Protein formula is built on a foundation of 100-percent whey protein � the most bioavailable form of protein in the world. But it doesn't stop there. Professional Strength Whey Protein is much more than regular or even so-called "premium" whey protein."

I will tell you right now that I have tried plenty of protein powders at this point and generally speaking, there is very little in the way of variance amongst different products or companies. Most are about the same, and based on my experience with Six Star's whey product, I feel the same applies here (that is not necessarily a bad thing). Any claim which puts one protein powder above and beyond the rest should be examined critically, although to be fair, a few products I have tried did could be considered as such, but Six Star's product was not one of them.

Here is a picture from the product purchase page:

I agree its like generic medications they all have the same active ingredient

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Notice how the first claim reads "CLINICALLY PROVEN TO BE SUPERIOR TO WHEY PROTEIN." Get in the habit of making high demands of companies who make such claims. Six Star makes this statement and then gives NO scientific reference to support it. If a supplement truly is clinically proven to be effective, wouldn't a company WANT to boast about that by referencing the clinical study which proves that? Start asking yourself these obvious questions when reading claims made by companies, since some claims made by some companies (MuscleTech for example) border on fraud. Gaspari Nutrition consistently cites the clinical studies they speak of. If the proof is so obvious, it shouldn't be hard to point it out. In fact, if the proof was so obvious, companies WOULD point it out. And the fact that Six Star does not leads me to believe that there is no proof, or that there is more to it than meets the eye.

In short, I get very annoyed with companies who claim clinical proof of the efficacy of their supplements yet show no evidence of this. What's funny is that on the product page for M3 Muscle Bound, they cited results from a clinical study yet did not link to it. I later found the study through an internet search. My advice to companies is to include clickable links on their product pages showing these studies if they exist. It will add greatly to the credibility of both the product and the company. Gaspari Nutrition does this with their advertisements which are neither flashy nor false, and I can appreciate that (and so can other consumers).

I agree about the claims being nothing more than a marketing ploy and even if they provide links to ' studies ' it still doesn't prove anything studies can manipulated and the average Joe purchasing said supplements wouldn't know how to interpret them if they really wanted to impress the more savy buyer providing links to double blind studies would suffice

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"Professional Strength Whey Protein is packed with clinically proven musclebuilding accelerators to quickly spike your blood amino acid levels and shuttle protein into your muscles. Each maximum dose serving contains a whopping 50 grams of protein. The result of this accelerated amino acid transport and uptake is rapid gains in muscle size and strength."

I'm not going to deny that Six Star may full well offer benefits above and beyond other whey protein powders, although I am naturally wary of such claims. However, I will point out that even if this is the case, I highly doubt the advantage would be anything noteworthy. Maybe a slight edge, but not anything worthwhile in my opinion.

See this claim is tricky because what are they comparing it to? again I didn't see were they made the claim over other Whey Proteins if they're just comparing it to no supplements at all this claim may be valid but again more fluff

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"The Six Star Professional Strength Whey Protein key ingredients are proven in university, gold-standard human clinical studies to be superior to regular whey protein for building muscle and increasing strength. The proof is in the science � Professional Strength Whey Protein is the musclebuilding solution bodybuilders need for fast, extreme results."

Reading this claim makes me even MORE annoyed because this is now the second time that the alleged "clinical studies" have been brought up with no reference to speak of. Providing no reference is provided, I offer ZERO credibility to such claims and you should too. I will do research on this independently and see whether or not the claim holds any water.

The product information pages goes on to cite a FAQ which talks about the "proprietary Probolic Muscle Growth Accelerators™." The FAQ encouraged a pretty high deal of consumption of the Six Star protein and also encouraged that it be used in combination with other Six Star products in particular. Almost all companies make both of these claims. Check other supplement endorsements by companies in the product ordering pages available online and you will see they all encourage multiple servings of their protein, or that their protein be used in conjunction with their creatine and so on. I will say that using a protein, creatine and beta-alanine stack may be a perfectly productive thing to do should you wish, but it is not required that all three are from the same company though. I'm not saying it's a BAD THING if all three are from the same company, but don't buy into the marketing ploys companies use to get you to consume more. Try to think independently and critically on everything you read before making any purchases.


Now they are make a direct claim verses their competitors and make some bold claims like you state we should refrain from just taking their word for it they have a vested interest

overall I think the review was pretty fair and unbiased

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This may be so, but MattC is still a fucking douchebag.