IFBB Grand Prix shows - Don't mention the Low 10k

[bigdumbbell]

The sports a hard sell to sponsors when the guys look the way they do, and for that you can blame the judging, and lack of drug testing. Drug testing needs to be introduced to minimise drug use and bring physiques back to a realistic level of development, and also help with the hard sell to business.
Steroid use is illegal, Nike, Adidas all companies are very concerned about their image, but they sponsor athletes who use drugs but not as openly as bodybuilders, they are tested and compete in organisations where there is testing to give the illusion that the sport is clean, no sport is clean, and if the athletes they sponsor are caught they dump them.

If the 100mm sprint was conducted under no testing whatsoever guys would be running 9.5 say for example, if they were running totally clean 10.0, but as they run in a tested environment where they still use drugs they run 9.7, as they cannot maximise they drug taking potential.

Bodybuilding would benefit from a drug tested federation, where athletes are promoted as clean had to do drug tests that would force guys to reduce their drug use, which in turn would reduce the sizes of their physiques this coupled with an aggressive new marketing approach could work in attracting other sponsors to our sport which could result in higher prize money and contracts for the athletes.
But all of this is pro active and requires investment and does not guarantee more money for the federation. This coupled with the fact that guys continue to risk their health and are happy to spend more money getting ready for shows than what they would win, is a huge determining factor in the federation not having to do anything.

and what of the current pro's?  a circus freak side show?

[Meltdown]

At least if the IFBB used their Own Drug Rules the promoter would not have to worry about the competitors getting arrested and held before their shows.Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Benfatto,and plenty of others get busted.Fuk Benfatto got such a Fine that even if he had placed 2nd he would have LOST money.Now that is a Fukin JOKE.

[phyxsius]

These guys are not competing for the money. They are competeing for the title. They would do it for free so the amount means nothing to them.

that's right.. they are not competing for the 10K... They are competing for the $35 statue

[G o a t b o y]

and what of the current pro's?  a circus freak side show?

Some would reduce their use and look better.  Some wouldn't be able to figure out how and would exit the sport.  Only problem is, insulin is a far bigger factor than AAS in the bloated looks of today, and you can't test for that.

[Meltdown]

So much Risk for so very Little.

[honest]

Use insulin on its own for a while and see how good it is, even with hgh its not that flash chuck a gram of test in and some anabolics and it gets going, but both hgh and insulin without aas are over rated, even when combined with clen.

[Meltdown]

I thought Drug use was banned by the IFBB hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMM.

[kmhphoto]

Bump.

Can anyone steer me in the right direction?  I think even putting down as little as $1,000 on some of the shows (Olympia, Arnold, Ironman, NY Pro) could do wonders for advertising my website.  Not to mention, $1,000 will maybe cover the food bill of a top bodybuilder for a few weeks. 

Have a chat with Shawn Ray about it as he's done this a few times.

[DK II]

Use insulin on its own for a while and see how good it is, even with hgh its not that flash chuck a gram of test in and some anabolics and it gets going, but both hgh and insulin without aas are over rated, even when combined with clen.

poor idiot.

[Meso_z]

Let me know when you are coming mate, you will be very welcome. I will be MC at nationals this year so I might catch you then. For any other Aussies, check out the Wolf tour...

"MUSCLETECH" hmmmmmmmm...

seriously what happened to that "call" which Dennis was supposed to get from the MS representative?

[Meltdown]

Next time your in a Nite Club and they give away 10k or more for a door prize think of the POOR IFBB Pros competing in Grand Prix shows for less.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmm.

[Ron]

How about Meltdown comes aboard and helps to give more prize money.

Hmm... instead of complaining left and right, why not come help.

On the smaller shows, with various costs, and we have gone over this before, it is more difficult to give more prize money without sponsorships.  Hey, you need a myriad of sponsorships to increase prize money now.

So instead of mocking, how about a serious discussion. Are you capable of that?

[Meltdown]

It's impossible to give more Prize money when the IFBB take so much from the sport.Pros just need to set the standard of what they will except as Prize money and NOT compete for less.Maybe Getbig could put a little extra cash up.They are on the IFBB Pro site as a supporter.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm.

[MB]

This would be an easy problem to fix.  If the pros aren't earning anything from these $20k shows, they should ban together and boycott any show that doesn't offer $50k minimum prize money.  There would be fewer shows, but there's not enough talent in the IFBB to support 8-10 shows each year anyways.  Make the IFBB come up with a strategy for improvement and work with the promoters to develop ideas instead of just standing on the sideline collecting sanction fee checks.   

[Meltdown]

This would be an easy problem to fix.  If the pros aren't earning anything from these $20k shows, they should ban together and boycott any show that doesn't offer $50k minimum prize money.  There would be fewer shows, but there's not enough talent in the IFBB to support 8-10 shows each year anyways.  Make the IFBB come up with a strategy for improvement and work with the promoters to develop ideas instead of just standing on the sideline collecting sanction fee checks.  

                                 This sounds good.

[bigbalddaddy]

This would be an easy problem to fix.  If the pros aren't earning anything from these $20k shows, they should ban together and boycott any show that doesn't offer $50k minimum prize money.  There would be fewer shows, but there's not enough talent in the IFBB to support 8-10 shows each year anyways.  Make the IFBB come up with a strategy for improvement and work with the promoters to develop ideas instead of just standing on the sideline collecting sanction fee checks.   

Only problem with that is....this is America and someone will always whore themself out to put their foot in the door for a cheaper price...hince upper Amercian management...

[Meltdown]

Another Great Point.

[sgt. d]

Have a chat with Shawn Ray about it as he's done this a few times.

shawn is a great man

[JohnnyVegas]

shawn is a great man sucks a mean tranny cock!

Fixed.

[Meltdown]

At least Shawn put up some Big Dollars.He was a great promoter it's a shame others are not like him.HmMMMMMMMMMMM.

[mogulgangi]

At least Shawn put up some Big Dollars.He was a great promoter it's a shame others are not like him.HmMMMMMMMMMMM.

if you stand back  for a minute....and think about the other major sports on who makes the most money(which is actually done alot in bodybuilding) ...your answer will be the ATHLETES.. i guarantee you that 90% of all nba and nfl players make more money than any of the staff member and GMs. Its seems to be a trend among the major sports. No one in the lakers organization makes remotely close to kobe or the league minimum a year ..maybe GMs...no one working around nfl players makes more than the players themselves....EVERYONE THAT WORKS AROUND BODYBUILDING makes more than the athletes!!!!   weird............the whole thing about no having any money is BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!! bodybuilding.com was SOLD FOR 300 MILLION!!! WHY ARENT THEY RUNNING A SHOW? THE NITRIC OXIDE BUSINESS IS A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS ITSELF!!! ATHLETES IN THE IFBB NEED TO STAND THE FUK UP AND STOP BEING PUSSIES......BOYCOTT  OR DO SOMETHING...

[G o a t b o y]

............the whole thing about no having any money is BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!! bodybuilding.com was SOLD FOR 300 MILLION!!! WHY ARENT THEY RUNNING A SHOW? THE NITRIC OXIDE BUSINESS IS A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS ITSELF!!! ATHLETES IN THE IFBB NEED TO STAND THE FUK UP AND STOP BEING PUSSIES......BOYCOTT  OR DO SOMETHING...

Supplements can exist without pro bodybuilding.  90+% of people trying to get in shape know nothing about IFBB pro bodybuilding and couldn't care less.  So pro bodybuilding really has no legitimate claim on the hundreds of millions generated by the supplement companies. 

There is no money in pro bodybuilding.  Do you know why other sports have money?  Because LOTS of people watch their events.  They pay for tickets to go to games, and millions more watch on TV.  Then, advertisers pay top dollar to put their message in front of all those people.  Then there's even more money in licensing their teams' logos for products that people buy.  Bodybuilding has none of that.  As long as there are only 10,000 people watching their premire event, and only a few hundred watching most other events, there will be very limited money in the sport itself.

[mogulgangi]

Supplements can exist without pro bodybuilding.  90+% of people trying to get in shape know nothing about IFBB pro bodybuilding and couldn't care less.  So pro bodybuilding really has no legitimate claim on the hundreds of millions generated by the supplement companies. 

There is no money in pro bodybuilding.  Do you know why other sports have money?  Because LOTS of people watch their events.  They pay for tickets to go to games, and millions more watch on TV.  Then, advertisers pay top dollar to put their message in front of all those people.  Then there's even more money in licensing their teams' logos for products that people buy.  Bodybuilding has none of that.  As long as there are only 10,000 people watching their premire event, and only a few hundred watching most other events, there will be very limited money in the sport itself.
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LOOK....k, not every show has to has a million dollar prize....but for godsake, can the winning prize money be more than 10,000 dollars?...20,000?...u know what years of stagnant prize money says, ATHLETES ARE BEING ROBBED FOR WHO THEY ARE.its bullshit, the reason why its still stagnant is because of the pure fact that bodybuilders have no word in the federation, its a politic ruled sport.u talk , you lose. you live with what you got..no other sport is like that.... ..if you were to take out like you said the bodybuilders off the mags, that means you would have to erase all the major magazines, the arnold classic, fit expos....thats alot of money being lost in every company...

[G o a t b o y]

LOOK....k, not every show has to has a million dollar prize....but for godsake, can the winning prize money be more than 10,000 dollars?...20,000?...u know what years of stagnant prize money says, ATHLETES ARE BEING ROBBED FOR WHO THEY ARE.its bullshit, the reason why its still stagnant is because of the pure fact that bodybuilders have no word in the federation, its a politic ruled sport.u talk , you lose. you live with what you got..no other sport is like that.... ..if you were to take out like you said the bodybuilders off the mags, that means you would have to erase all the major magazines, the arnold classic, fit expos....thats alot of money being lost in every company...

An average professional baseball team rakes in more revenue in a week than all of professional bodybuilding takes in in a year.  Athletes in each sport are paid accordingly. You do the math...  it's simple economics, supply and demand.

[CQ]

The comment about if pro BB was gone, one would have to erase the Arnold is off base. BB is now such a small part of the Arnold, it could easily exist without it.