Chick, Milos wants back in he says

[JohnnyVegas]

Wrong. http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Universe+-+WPF&y=1989

1989 Universe - WPF, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st

Bashing on Milos is like climbing up the stairs of Philly's Museum of Art just to spit on Rocky's statue.

So Alex, are you saying if I have MY Mr. Universe show with three weight classes, and three people enter each class and then win- they are IFBB Pros (See how many people were in the WPF "Universe" Hvywt, Lgtwt and Mdlwt-1 person each class-Ohhoo, tough show!)??

The WPF was a one time joke-they are NOT a recognized organization and winning that shit DOES NOT entitle ANYONE to be an IFBB pro.

Tell me, does the NABBA Universe get IFBB Pros status   NO.

NABAA is 100 times better than that WPF bullshit.

BTW-how can someone WIN a "Mr. Universe" show and then a month later take 5th place in their weight class at the Cal   

[Meltdown]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmm.Great questions.

[slaveboy1980]

what about wabba

[JohnnyVegas]

what about wabba

The IFBB nly lets in NCP and affiliated winners from the amatuer ranks.

That is why Jeff King, Tim Belknap, Glenn Kneer and many others never got pro cards.....

Don't get me wrong-Milos Sarcev turned out to be an excellent Pro BBer.

But to set facts straight-when he turned Pro in 1990 there were a number of better BBers at Gold's Gym San Diego alone. Plus when he turned pro Milos's arms were only 17.5 inches! If he had to come up thru the ranks like 99% of the rest did he would not have made it to the top-he literally by-passed 90% of the Pro qualifying competitions.

[Ron]

Milos is outspoken and has his own opinion. I am interested to see if Milos did talk to Bob Chick regarding his IFBB Pro Card? 

[G o a t b o y]

The IFBB nly lets in NCP and affiliated winners from the amatuer ranks.

That is why Jeff King, Tim Belknap, Glenn Kneer and many others never got pro cards.....

Jeff King never got a pro card?  Damn.  He had a neck even bigger than Chad Mower's.

[JohnnyVegas]

Jeff King never got a pro card?  Damn.  He had a neck even bigger than Chad Mower's.

 

Jeff King could have been Mr. Olympia, or in the top 3 easily.

Tim Belknap was "GIFTED" a pro card eventually, after failing to win the Universe/Worlds on his first attempt, and then failing to qualify for the Universe/Worlds the following 2 years after his first failure.

But, Belknap did not earn it.

[slaveboy1980]

The IFBB nly lets in NCP and affiliated winners from the amatuer ranks.

That is why Jeff King, Tim Belknap, Glenn Kneer and many others never got pro cards.....

Don't get me wrong-Milos Sarcev turned out to be an excellent Pro BBer.

But to set facts straight-when he turned Pro in 1990 there were a number of better BBers at Gold's Gym San Diego alone. Plus when he turned pro Milos's arms were only 17.5 inches! If he had to come up thru the ranks like 99% of the rest did he would not have made it to the top-he literally by-passed 90% of the Pro qualifying competitions.

thats not what i was talking about at all.

[slaveboy1980]

Jeff King could have been Mr. Olympia, or in the top 3 easily.

Tim Belknap was "GIFTED" a pro card eventually, after failing to win the Universe/Worlds on his first attempt, and then failing to qualify for the Universe/Worlds the following 2 years after his first failure.

But, Belknap did not earn it.

belknap was an asshole and never in jeff kings league.

[Milos_Sarcev]

I spoke to Milos earlier in the year (at the Ironman)...he knows what is required if he were to want back in the IFBB. I've had not heard from him since that time....

Bob, really - I don't remember you telling me solution for "what's required"...

Is it AGAIN same "let's play the game - don't ask don't tell" typicality - where I have to apologize to Paul Chua...or else...

With your help (as I was told) I can apologize without apologizing - "you know what I mean" type of game I was told to play...

You were going to help me with constructing the letter of apology - without really apologizing.... and I must tell you I already did that back than...before I was actually suspended - but it wasn't good enough...

Year and a half ago I sent exactly that: letter of apology without directly apologizing to Mr. "I publicly admit that I was offered crazy amount of money to fix the scores time after time again - pretty much in every competition - but even in MANY occasions when my life was threatened - I refused to take the bribery! My ethics would absolutely not allow me to do such a dishonorable thing..."

My letter was so "good" - I was issued immediate suspension...

So Bob - as you know many great bodybuilding champions have returned on the IFBB pro stage...even Olympia stage...
What's more - example of Juliette Bergman is the best one...After 17 years of "retirement" she came back to WIN Ms. Olympia title...

Return of Vince Taylor at age of 50 and Francis Benfato (49) witnessed by me last year in Australia only confirmed what I already knew: once a bodybuilding competitor - always bodybuilding competitor...Both Vince and Francis were at their ALL TIME BEST!!!

Same goes for Gary Strydom and God knows how many more of our colleagues.

Persistence is a synonym of bodybuilder/competitor...and who knows that better than you (In reference of your 14 years PRO CARD attempts...I bet you if you didn't win that USA Championships - you would continue...even to this day - if you had to...).

So, I am certainly NOT RETIRED - absolutely not...
I really wanted to surprise everyone and enter 2006 Grand Prix of Romania...and unfortunately - I didn't...but than I was interested to compete at 2007 Arnold...You should know some details...as bodybuilding.com owner at the time called me personally with business proposal (taping my comeback...) with exception that first I just have to do little formality..."just apologize to Paul and we are on the way..."

Ultimately - I had Jim Lorimer himself - calling me and letting me know how excited he is to invite me back...but there is ONE THING I have to do first...I completely understand that Jim could not invite me if I am suspended - and I very much appreciated his sincere effort - but my apology letter just wasn't good enough...

I am very interested to say the least - how will you manage to overcome "what's required"...

I didn't contact you until now - as I simply didn't think that you could really help me with it...But as you are letting me and everyone else know - I can't wait to start...

What do you need from me?

Apology of some kind?

OK, I apologize to Paul I came and witnessed his "operation". I should have stayed here in California. My sincere apologies Mr. Paul."

Good enough?

[kyomu]

Pathetic BBing world....
We fans want to see this Milos The mad Sarcev on stage....
Without us(fans), NO MONEY, NO federation shit.

[knny187]

Rick S deserved a Card before Mishko

[Meltdown]

Wow Milos laying down the smack.Chick says this and that but Milos hasn't heard from Chick.Someones not all together telling the Truth Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.I FBB have Rules for some and not for others.

[The Coach]

Who's "Milos"?

[Hedgehog]

I spoke to Milos earlier in the year (at the Ironman)...he knows what is required if he were to want back in the IFBB. I've had not heard from him since that time....

Hypothetical question:

If Clifton Torres or that old guy that does one Pro show every year (you know the guy with the toupe) somehow had their Pro Cards revoked, could they get it back?



And come on, don't bullshit me.

[JohnnyVegas]

Hypothetical question:

If Clifton Torres or that old guy that does one Pro show every year (you know the guy with the toupe) somehow had their Pro Cards revoked, could they get it back?



And come on, don't bullshit me.

Pro cards are not revoked, they are suspended.

[Milos_Sarcev]

Who's "Milos"?

Your worst nightmare Sissy!

[Milos_Sarcev]

I spoke to Milos earlier in the year (at the Ironman)...he knows what is required if he were to want back in the IFBB. I've had not heard from him since that time....

Bob, really - I don't remember you telling me solution for "what's required"...

Is it AGAIN same "let's play the game - don't ask don't tell" typicality - where I have to apologize to Paul Chua...or else...

With your help (as I was told) I can apologize without apologizing - "you know what I mean" type of game I was told to play...

You were going to help me with constructing the letter of apology - without really apologizing.... and I must tell you I already did that back than...before I was actually suspended - but it wasn't good enough... Roll Eyes

Year and a half ago I sent exactly that: letter of apology without directly apologizing to Mr. "I publicly admit that I was offered crazy amount of money to fix the scores time after time again - pretty much in every competition - but even in MANY occasions when my life was threatened - I refused to take the bribery! My ethics would absolutely not allow me to do such a dishonorable thing..."

My letter was so "good" - I was issued immediate suspension...

So Bob - as you know many great bodybuilding champions have returned on the IFBB pro stage...even Olympia stage...
What's more - example of Juliette Bergman is the best one...After 17 years of "retirement" she came back to WIN Ms. Olympia title...

Return of Vince Taylor at age of 50 and Francis Benfato (49) witnessed by me last year in Australia only confirmed what I already knew: once a bodybuilding competitor - always bodybuilding competitor...Both Vince and Francis were at their ALL TIME BEST!!!

Same goes for Gary Strydom and God knows how many more of our colleagues.

Persistence is a synonym of bodybuilder/competitor...and who knows that better than you (In reference of your 14 years PRO CARD attempts...I bet you if you didn't win that USA Championships - you would continue...even to this day - if you had to...).

So, I am certainly NOT RETIRED - absolutely not...
I really wanted to surprise everyone and enter 2006 Grand Prix of Romania...and unfortunately - I didn't...but than I was interested to compete at 2007 Arnold...You should know some details...as bodybuilding.com owner at the time called me personally with business proposal (taping my comeback...) with exception that first I just have to do little formality..."just apologize to Paul and we are on the way..."

Ultimately - I had Jim Lorimer himself - calling me and letting me know how excited he is to invite me back...but there is ONE THING I have to do first...I completely understand that Jim could not invite me if I am suspended - and I very much appreciated his sincere effort - but my apology letter just wasn't good enough...

I am very interested to say the least - how will you manage to overcome "what's required"...

I didn't contact you until now - as I simply didn't think that you could really help me with it...But as you are letting me and everyone else know - I can't wait to start...

What do you need from me?

Apology of some kind?

OK, I apologize to Paul I came and witnessed his "operation". I should have stayed here in California. My sincere apologies Mr. Paul."

Good enough?

[Palpatine Q]

Bob, really - I don't remember you telling me solution for "what's required"...

Is it AGAIN same "let's play the game - don't ask don't tell" typicality - where I have to apologize to Paul Chua...or else...

With your help (as I was told) I can apologize without apologizing - "you know what I mean" type of game I was told to play...

You were going to help me with constructing the letter of apology - without really apologizing.... and I must tell you I already did that back than...before I was actually suspended - but it wasn't good enough... Roll Eyes

Year and a half ago I sent exactly that: letter of apology without directly apologizing to Mr. "I publicly admit that I was offered crazy amount of money to fix the scores time after time again - pretty much in every competition - but even in MANY occasions when my life was threatened - I refused to take the bribery! My ethics would absolutely not allow me to do such a dishonorable thing..."

My letter was so "good" - I was issued immediate suspension...

So Bob - as you know many great bodybuilding champions have returned on the IFBB pro stage...even Olympia stage...
What's more - example of Juliette Bergman is the best one...After 17 years of "retirement" she came back to WIN Ms. Olympia title...

Return of Vince Taylor at age of 50 and Francis Benfato (49) witnessed by me last year in Australia only confirmed what I already knew: once a bodybuilding competitor - always bodybuilding competitor...Both Vince and Francis were at their ALL TIME BEST!!!

Same goes for Gary Strydom and God knows how many more of our colleagues.

Persistence is a synonym of bodybuilder/competitor...and who knows that better than you (In reference of your 14 years PRO CARD attempts...I bet you if you didn't win that USA Championships - you would continue...even to this day - if you had to...).

So, I am certainly NOT RETIRED - absolutely not...
I really wanted to surprise everyone and enter 2006 Grand Prix of Romania...and unfortunately - I didn't...but than I was interested to compete at 2007 Arnold...You should know some details...as bodybuilding.com owner at the time called me personally with business proposal (taping my comeback...) with exception that first I just have to do little formality..."just apologize to Paul and we are on the way..."

Ultimately - I had Jim Lorimer himself - calling me and letting me know how excited he is to invite me back...but there is ONE THING I have to do first...I completely understand that Jim could not invite me if I am suspended - and I very much appreciated his sincere effort - but my apology letter just wasn't good enough...

I am very interested to say the least - how will you manage to overcome "what's required"...

I didn't contact you until now - as I simply didn't think that you could really help me with it...But as you are letting me and everyone else know - I can't wait to start...

What do you need from me?

Apology of some kind?

OK, I apologize to Paul I came and witnessed his "operation". I should have stayed here in California. My sincere apologies Mr. Paul."

Good enough?

Milos you seem like a very sharp guy.......why are you pulling a "Lee Priest"?

[BIG DUB]

Since the bribery still goes on. Ultimately was it worth it to lose your pro card and nothing happen to him??

[Meltdown]

How sad when a Pro says his Rep is not doing his Job of helping the Pros.Sounds like a great job with plenty of perks and not much work.Milos is not Stupid he knows what he saw and he knows now what goes on in the IFBB.This guy should blow them out of the water.Prove to Chick he's not DONE.hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM .

[Chick]

Bob, really - I don't remember you telling me solution for "what's required"...

Is it AGAIN same "let's play the game - don't ask don't tell" typicality - where I have to apologize to Paul Chua...or else...

With your help (as I was told) I can apologize without apologizing - "you know what I mean" type of game I was told to play...

You were going to help me with constructing the letter of apology - without really apologizing.... and I must tell you I already did that back than...before I was actually suspended - but it wasn't good enough...

Year and a half ago I sent exactly that: letter of apology without directly apologizing to Mr. "I publicly admit that I was offered crazy amount of money to fix the scores time after time again - pretty much in every competition - but even in MANY occasions when my life was threatened - I refused to take the bribery! My ethics would absolutely not allow me to do such a dishonorable thing..."

My letter was so "good" - I was issued immediate suspension...

So Bob - as you know many great bodybuilding champions have returned on the IFBB pro stage...even Olympia stage...
What's more - example of Juliette Bergman is the best one...After 17 years of "retirement" she came back to WIN Ms. Olympia title...

Return of Vince Taylor at age of 50 and Francis Benfato (49) witnessed by me last year in Australia only confirmed what I already knew: once a bodybuilding competitor - always bodybuilding competitor...Both Vince and Francis were at their ALL TIME BEST!!!

Same goes for Gary Strydom and God knows how many more of our colleagues.

Persistence is a synonym of bodybuilder/competitor...and who knows that better than you (In reference of your 14 years PRO CARD attempts...I bet you if you didn't win that USA Championships - you would continue...even to this day - if you had to...).

So, I am certainly NOT RETIRED - absolutely not...
I really wanted to surprise everyone and enter 2006 Grand Prix of Romania...and unfortunately - I didn't...but than I was interested to compete at 2007 Arnold...You should know some details...as bodybuilding.com owner at the time called me personally with business proposal (taping my comeback...) with exception that first I just have to do little formality..."just apologize to Paul and we are on the way..."

Ultimately - I had Jim Lorimer himself - calling me and letting me know how excited he is to invite me back...but there is ONE THING I have to do first...I completely understand that Jim could not invite me if I am suspended - and I very much appreciated his sincere effort - but my apology letter just wasn't good enough...

I am very interested to say the least - how will you manage to overcome "what's required"...

I didn't contact you until now - as I simply didn't think that you could really help me with it...But as you are letting me and everyone else know - I can't wait to start...

What do you need from me?

Apology of some kind?

OK, I apologize to Paul I came and witnessed his "operation". I should have stayed here in California. My sincere apologies Mr. Paul."

Good enough?

I remember exactly where and when the conversation took place, outside in the lobby area immediately following the show....we talked briefly, You told me you had no intention of apologizing....ever. I told you how it could be handled....and to contact me if you needed my assistance in the matter. To this date, I havent heard from you. What part of that isn't correct?

You have my number, you have my email...if you truly wish to be reinstated, then I would suggest contacting me to let me know...

I'm not interested in the drama of the board, or people that have nothing to do with the situation....

Let me know...

[WillGrant]

Other than Dennis MR O Wolfffffff , Milos looks better than any of these other bloated monsters and thats GH15 Approved 

[The Coach]

Bob, I say let Milos back in.........it's not like he's going to be sprinting or anything 

[Meltdown]

Milos is just Smart enough to cause some pain to the IFBB and the dude has a huge following.Is he the Man to lead Pro BB to bigger cash prizes???.