Chick, Milos wants back in he says

[musclecenter]

I use VIAGRA 45 minutes before the stage - with my guys...
Yes, than training caused hyperemia WILL NOT TAKE PLACE - so at this point YES - I would say VIAGRA can help (and it does )

But, before training?

It will be a WASTE....

See John Romano's opinion :http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/06/09/2008-06-09_why_viagra_is_a_great_workout_partner_fo.html
New York Daily News - Jun 09

[Milos_Sarcev]

if hyperemia always occurs then why buy your products ?

Hallo...anybody there?

What hyperemia has to do with my products?

Everyone who trains will be in hyperemic state - regardless...

But, that blood that is passing through your muscles - IS EMPTY....
Yes, you'll get temporary pump - but nothing else...

Now, if your blood is SATURATED with exact anabolic and anticatabolic nutrients (yes my product has the ULTIMATE FORMULA) and than - anabolic and anti-catabolic hormones are released - WHAT DO YOU THINK REALLY HAPPENS?

Well, if you try my products - maybe you'll figure it out fast...

[Van_Bilderass]

You are really a moron - or just act that way?

Don't be so sensitive Milos 

I haven't tried Viagra before workouts and haven't seen scientific data if it increases blood flow to the muscles during weight training. But it doesn't sound far fetched, to me, that it does and you being a believer in the "hyperemia advantage" I would've thought you'd want to optimize these processes to the fullest.

Did you see this, Romano talking about Viagra

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/06/09/2008-06-09_why_viagra_is_a_great_workout_partner_fo.html

[candidizzle]

Hallo...anybody there?

What hyperemia has to do with my products?

Everyone who trains will be in hyperemic state - regardless...

But, that blood that is passing through your muscles - IS EMPTY....
Yes, you'll get temporary pump - but nothing else...

Now, if your blood is SATURATED with exact anabolic and anticatabolic nutrients (yes my product has the ULTIMATE FORMULA) and than - anabolic and anti-catabolic hormones are released - WHAT DO YOU THINK REALLY HAPPENS?

Well, if you try my products - maybe you'll figure it out fast...

milos obviiously not every body wants to shell out 150 dollarss for a trifecta of workout supplements... so tell me what makes yoru products better than some whey with some glucose before during and after training.. ?

[Milos_Sarcev]

See John Romano's opinion :http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/06/09/2008-06-09_why_viagra_is_a_great_workout_partner_fo.html
New York Daily News - Jun 09

Typical NO theory...what's new?

What you guys don't get it is:

it is not viagra that will bring you amino acids and whatever else...it is just fact that hyperemia (increased blood flow to the muscle) will be somewhat greater...Just like it would happen with any other known vasodilatator....

But, WHAT IS IN YOUR BLOOD is that makes all the difference...and if you know WHAT TO PUT IN YOUR BLOOD AT THE RIGHT TIME - you will experience growth you never had before...

[Milos_Sarcev]

milos obviiously not every body wants to shell out 150 dollarss for a trifecta of workout supplements... so tell me what makes yoru products better than some whey with some glucose before during and after training.. ?

No need to tell you anything...Keep using whey and glucose...

You want to be a pedestrian in the turbo jet world? Be my guest...

[candidizzle]

No need to tell you anything...Keep using whey and glucose...

You want to be a pedestrian in the turbo jet world? Be my guest...

okay thanks i will

actually i just use whey.. i dont see a reason for the glucose

[musclecenter]

Typical NO theory...what's new?

What you guys don't get it is:

it is not viagra that will bring you amino acids and whatever else...it is just fact that hyperemia (increased blood flow to the muscle) will be somewhat greater...Just like it would happen with any other known vasodilatator....

But, WHAT IS IN YOUR BLOOD is that makes all the difference...and if you know WHAT TO PUT IN YOUR BLOOD AT THE RIGHT TIME - you will experience growth you never had before...

Thanks



(and Romano not looks like a bodybuilder  )

[Milos_Sarcev]

okay thanks i will

actually i just use whey.. i dont see a reason for the glucose

I am surprised you see a reason for whey...

Do you see a reason to train - maybe?

[Van_Bilderass]

Typical NO theory...what's new?

What you guys don't get it is:

it is not viagra that will bring you amino acids and whatever else...it is just fact that hyperemia (increased blood flow to the muscle) will be somewhat greater...Just like it would happen with any other known vasodilatator....

But, WHAT IS IN YOUR BLOOD is that makes all the difference...and if you know WHAT TO PUT IN YOUR BLOOD AT THE RIGHT TIME - you will experience growth you never had before...

So improving blood flow further isn't of any additional advantage? As you know insulin improves blood flow to the muscles during the workout as well (this has been studied). Imagine if you took Viagra, insulin AND your pharmaceutical grade non-human hair amino's before workouts - you'd get all those goodies EXACTLY where you you'd want it! Those hungry type 1 muscle fibers just waiting to explode! Oh well, keep doing your thing... while the guys with boners pass you by! 

[Milos_Sarcev]

It looks to me that most of you don't have a clue what I am talking about.

HYPEREMIA is one thing...and my supplements - completely other.

While my supplements use HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE and while they cause increased hyperemia - point is crystal clear:

If you know that possibly 80% of the blood will finds its way to the muscle during the training - don't you think that you have unique opportunity to make few things happen?

1- WHEN 80% of the blood is in the muscle THAN possibly you should have some (or rather EXACT ) amino acids of choice along with every anabolic, anticatabolic nutrients on top...

2- Than, you should also cause release of certain hormones...

IF you don't care for HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE and don't think that you can anyhow benefit from SATURATED BLOOD with every possible nutrient and hormone that promotes anabolism and anti-catabolism being IN THE MUSCLE FOR THE DURATION OF THE WORKOUT - with numerous muscle contractions....than I have nothing else to tell you...

But, if you realize that ONLY DURING THE WORKOUT you have such hyperemia and 80% blood flow to the muscle - HOW could you let that opportunity go?

[candidizzle]

I am surprised you see a reason for whey...

Do you see a reason to train - maybe?

you have any kind of study to show that natural levels of insulin are any more potent a muscle builder than natural levels of igf-1 ?

[Milos_Sarcev]

So improving blood flow further isn't of any additional advantage? As you know insulin improves blood flow to the muscles during the workout as well (this has been studied). Imagine if you took Viagra, insulin AND your pharmaceutical grade non-human hair amino's before workouts - you'd get all those goodies EXACTLY where you you'd want it! Those hungry type 1 muscle fibers just waiting to explode! Oh well, keep doing your thing... while the guys with boners pass you by! 

Improving blood flow OVER 80% necessary?
Don't think so...but if you didn't realize viagra and NO products have just a liiiitttllleee bit in common...

My sups cause additional hyperemia - but I don't even advertise that - as I know what is more important...

NUTRIENTS that could be delivered to the muscle is what you guys are missing...

It is like airplane with no passangers...or empty envelope...What's the point?

[candidizzle]

Improving blood flow OVER 80% necessary?
Don't think so...but if you didn't realize viagra and NO products have just a liiiitttllleee bit in common...

My sups cause additional hyperemia - but I don't even advertise that - as I know what is more important...

NUTRIENTS that could be delivered to the muscle is what you guys are missing...

It is like airplane with no passangers...or empty envelope...What's the point?

so in your opinion the only reason you grow from working out is the fact that you get a pump and more nutrients get into the muscle ?

[Milos_Sarcev]

you have any kind of study to show that natural levels of insulin are any more potent a muscle builder than natural levels of igf-1 ?

you have any kind of study to show you are safe to be on the streets?

[candidizzle]

you have any kind of study to show you are safe to be on the streets?

i have one study to show that i am NOT safe to be on the streets 

[Milos_Sarcev]

so in your opinion the only reason you grow from working out is the fact that you get a pump and more nutrients get into the muscle ?

Albert (as Einstein)...is this you?

[Milos_Sarcev]

i have one study to show that i am NOT safe to be on the streets 

I don't doubt you have more...

[The Coach]

Well, here is at least someone who actually knows what he is talking about...

YES, INSULIN + SPECIFIC AMINOS = MORE MUSCLE THAN ANYTHING ELSE...in a hurry...

Not exactly anything new Milos......of course you can put size on with that. Even though the educated on here new, you made it sound as if was solely your products that were putting on this muscle.

Next time you make an insane claim like "I can put 40lbs of muscle on you in a month" you might want to add the stack that accompanies it. You made it sound like a Muscle Tech ad

[candidizzle]

Albert (as Einstein)...is this you?

 answer my question  please, im not trying to attack you milos i just want your opinion

[Van_Bilderass]

Theoretically there might be some advantages to having circulating amino's in the blood during workouts. Nothing wrong with having protein/aminos before and during workouts. The question is how big a difference it makes in the end compared to just eating solid meals for example. All of the muscle growth doesn't occur during workouts obviously. Protein synthesis is highest after the session to my knowledge - the workout is the stimulus. Will amino acids during workouts cause more protein accrual at the end of the day - that's the question. It's theoretical at this point.

[Milos_Sarcev]

Not exactly anything new Milos......of course you can put size on with that. Even though the educated on here new, you made it sound as if was solely your products that were putting on this muscle.

Next time you make an insane claim like "I can put 40lbs of muscle on you in a month" you might want to add the stack that accompanies it. You made it sound like a Muscle Tech ad

Here Coach:

here is the next time:

I can put 40lbs of muscle on you in a month - or I can put 40 pounds without adding a gram of body fat!
And I will bet you (or anyone else) a 100 Grand...

[Milos_Sarcev]

Here Coach:

here is the next time:

I can put 40lbs of muscle on you in a month - or I can put 40 pounds without adding a gram of body fat!
And I will bet you (or anyone else) a 100 Grand...

I should maybe say - I did that (over 40 pound gain in one month) with more than 5 people so far...

[HUGEPECS]

Why would I profit...and why is that important?

I am proud member of the IFBB - who has entered 72 IFBB professional shows, qualifying for Mr. Olympia ten consecutive times.
I am also IFBB PRO CHAMPION - something that is not so common among the pros (to actually WIN the contest)...

I acted in BEST BEHALF OF IFBB ATHLETES from Asia - as I was reported and than witnessed the biggest travesty in the sport.
For that - I am penalized?

Does actually someone THINKS about it?

I have lost my Weider contract, Gym contract (official gym for Flex magazine for 5 years...), IFBB pro card, some scheduled appearances (like last year in Japan - when promoter was called that IF I appear at the contest - hell will break...)...

but I haven't lost my HONOR and PRIDE...

I know the truth...and EVERYONE IN THE IFBB KNOWS THE TRUTH as well...but they are just too ignorant to face themselves in the mirror and ask the right questions.

I am suspended because I was FIGHTING FOR INTEGRITY of the IFBB in one of the biggest sporting events...and because I stick my neck out for ALL IFBB ASIAN BODYBUILDERS who have no chance to fairly win the contests - because of this corrupted gentlemen...?

I could very easily say WHAT THEY WANTED ME TO SAY...and I will still have my IFBB PRO CARD and PAYCHECKS...meaning: livelihood.

I didn't.

When some of you realize what is personal HONOR and PRIDE - than and only than we can talk "on the same level"...but as today's living is honor-free for many - it's pointless to discuss....

I would assume that the IFBB missed an important person in the name of Milos Sarcev, but I assume they'd be happy to have you back and thus begin a new Chapter?. I also assume, Milos, that you at least have some friend(s) in the inner circle who aggree or stand by you.

[Van_Bilderass]

Here Coach:

here is the next time:

I can put 40lbs of muscle on you in a month - or I can put 40 pounds without adding a gram of body fat!
And I will bet you (or anyone else) a 100 Grand...

Coach I would take Milos up on this! A month on insulin won't kill you!