Last four weeks before show???

[Audioslave]

What cycle would you guys suggest starting four weeks out from a show???

[Van_Bilderass]

I would say it's fairly individual isn't it? Kind of hard to answer without knowing any background info, what you look like at that point etc.

[Audioslave]

I'd say the types of drugs are fairly common. Prop over Enanthate, no drol or dbol, etc... etc...

[Van_Bilderass]

I'd say the types of drugs are fairly common. Prop over Enanthate, no drol or dbol, etc... etc...

Sure, Tren Ace, Test Prop, Winstrol etc are most popular pre-contest the last few weeks. But some really like drols too. I have seen it work well without any excess bloat. If you're looking on point 4 weeks out, hard and dry, on test and drol for example, there may not be any reason to switch them out. What do you think?

[OTHstrong]

Primobolan 100mg per day and anavar 50-100mg per day

[candidizzle]

anyone with experience using "cutting" drugs  really prefer winstrol? everything ive read and heard about it.... seems to me to be over hyped and over priced..   

[Rimbaud]

anyone with experience using "cutting" drugs  really prefer winstrol? everything ive read and heard about it.... seems to me to be over hyped and over priced..   

Nah if anything I'd say anavar is the over hyped/over priced.

[candidizzle]

what would you say the difference between cutting on test + ai would be from cutting on test + ai + winstrol ?

[Rimbaud]

what would you say the difference between cutting on test + ai would be from cutting on test + ai + winstrol ?

Winny may dry you out a little more. However diet will be more important than anythin though.

[Arnold jr]

anyone with experience using "cutting" drugs  really prefer winstrol? everything ive read and heard about it.... seems to me to be over hyped and over priced..   

Winny with tren is a good combo. Tren by itself is still great, winny by itself is sort of sub par IMO. But combined they seem to really work well together.

[candidizzle]

bitch ass alin owes me 2.5 grams worth of winny tabs ! 

bastard ass moldovan

LOL

whats the diff between tren  and tren + winny ?   would you take winny in on big dose pre workout kinda like dbol or no ?

[Rimbaud]

bitch ass alin owes me 2.5 grams worth of winny tabs ! 

bastard ass moldovan

LOL

whats the diff between tren  and tren + winny ?   would you take winny in on big dose pre workout kinda like dbol or no ?

Live & learn.

[candidizzle]

Live & learn.

what about the tren + winny ? i know testosterone gots some fat burning properties.. how would you say they compare to tren, and or winny

[Rimbaud]

what about the tren + winny ? i know testosterone gots some fat burning properties.. how would you say they compare to tren, and or winny

Sorry, I was talking about the winny alin owes you. Of course you could always experiment with the others too - live & learn there. I've never used tren so I'm no help there.

[candidizzle]

Sorry, I was talking about the winny alin owes you. Of course you could always experiment with the others too - live & learn there. I've never used tren so I'm no help there.

ph yeah i figured thats what you were saying

i guess everybody reacts differently to different gear... cuz some udes say tren is the king of steroids while other guys say just take lots of test and thats it. anabolics 2006 says that tren is good for cutting because it doesnt aromatize but says its not as good for mass because of the same reason. i a wondering... well how does test + ai compare to tren ??

[benz]

Sorry, I was talking about the winny alin owes you. Of course you could always experiment with the others too - live & learn there. I've never used tren so I'm no help there.

Would you give a bad advice to a friend of mine which i dont want to mention in order to make him look like shit ? I pay cash 

[OTHstrong]

Why not take it all?

[Arnold jr]

bitch ass alin owes me 2.5 grams worth of winny tabs ! 

bastard ass moldovan

LOL

whats the diff between tren  and tren + winny ?   would you take winny in on big dose pre workout kinda like dbol or no ?

If you're lean enough it'll just make you look harder...seems to be a good combo for maintaining a little more strength too.

I'd just inject it once per day...time doesn't matter. If taken orally, just split it into 2 doses if you like...about 12 hrs apart give or take. Typically though, if I'm taking it orally, I'll just go with 1 dose per day and just not worry about it...seems to be fine.

[OTHstrong]

If you're lean enough it'll just make you look harder...seems to be a good combo for maintaining a little more strength too.

I'd just inject it once per day...time doesn't matter. If taken orally, just split it into 2 doses if you like...about 12 hrs apart give or take. Typically though, if I'm taking it orally, I'll just go with 1 dose per day and just not worry about it...seems to be fine.

If you are referring to winny once per day, I think twice per day is better

[no one]

What cycle would you guys suggest starting four weeks out from a show???

at 4 weeks out, you should have had everything in that you will need, starting at the 8-6 week out mark.

the only compound i'd suggest at this stage that would manifest any type of wanted result would be the addition of halo.

other than that, you have waited and left it kinda long.

if you are behind in your prep, there really isn't anything drugs will do apart from upping your GH that will get you where you need to be.

[local hero]

for you all behind on your prep,,, just do as much cardio as u need to do to get the fat off u, even if it means several sessions per day,,, the drugs and burners just help, they wont do it for u,,, the real secret is not to get too fat in the 1st place, start your diet already seein your abbs... the only thing that made the biggest change in my appearence from a qualifier to a final ( 6 weeks inbetween ) , is the use of a stair master, soft legs one show, grainy legs the next

on the use of winny, id love to shoot it, but ive had so many friends had abcesses cut out from the stuff, i always stick to stromba tabs

[Audioslave]

At six weeks out is there any benefit to adding GH if not already on it??? Should it be used the last five/six weeks and if so how??

[no one]

At six weeks out is there any benefit to adding GH if not already on it??? Should it be used the last five/six weeks and if so how??

i'm guessing your pretty far off in your conditoning. as a rule, when you fall behind in your prep, there is no catching up, no quick fix.

now, that being said there are things you can do to aid you a little, but are not a replacment for sticking to your diet and doing your cardio.

insofar as GH goes, go 5 and 5 ed. 2 and 2 isn't enough if your behind. this means you'll be going thru 3 bricks or more from now till the day of your show- that's alot of money to just burn fat.

were i you, and not having seen you but just from what i have read, instead of making and investment like this getting ready for a show that you are already behind in, pick a different show and approach your prep differently next time and save yourself some money and dissappointment.

[Arnold jr]

were i you, and not having seen you but just from what i have read, instead of making and investment like this getting ready for a show that you are already behind in, pick a different show and approach your prep differently next time and save yourself some money and dissappointment.

Agreed.

Maybe if he's not too far off he could still do a show now but just find one that's a few wks later on then the one he has planned now.

Another option, and again, this is assuming that he's not too far off, he could start absolutely killing the cardio...I'm talking 2 sessions every day maybe 60min a piece. Sure, he may lose a little muscle doing that, but if he is dead set on doing the show and coming in on point, he may not have a choice.

[Audioslave]

At six weeks out I'm just over six percent bodyfat. I've not done a show before, so I don't know... is that behind?