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Beoving vs. Muscletech in the New York Times: Discussion
« on: June 08, 2008, 05:06:54 PM »
how long will this stay up before the muscle tech calls ron to take it down

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A Self-Described Steroid User Loses Job as Fitness Model
By STEPHANIE CLIFFORD
Published: June 9, 2008

With the camera rolling, Christian Boeving, a fitness model who is paid to endorse bodybuilding products, freely admitted he had used steroids since he was 16.

That was two years ago, when a friend from the gym he uses, Christopher Bell, was filming “Bigger, Stronger, Faster,” a documentary on steroids that was released on May 30.

Mr. Boeving said he had nearly forgotten about the interview until he heard from the film’s representatives just before it was shown in January at the Sundance Film Festival. “They said, ‘Look, we’re just letting you know you mentioned the word steroids in it,’ ” Mr. Boeving said. “But I didn’t think I would get into that much trouble, because I thought it was pretty apparent that the top people in the industry use steroids to look like we do.”

A company whose products he endorsed, Iovate Health Sciences, apparently did not think so, and promptly severed Mr. Boeving’s contract. Iovate Health Sciences did not return calls for comment last week.

Mr. Boeving had represented over-the-counter dietary supplements in Iovate’s MuscleTech division, including Hydroxycut, which is meant to burn fat, and Nitro-Tech, which is meant to build muscle. But the type of performance-enhancing steroids Mr. Boeving referred to in the movie are legal only with a doctor’s prescription; he said in an interview that he had a prescription for testosterone.

While he may not been breaking the law, Mr. Boeving was apparently breaking a taboo in the bodybuilding world, one that Mr. Bell’s documentary was aiming to expose. “Ever since I was a kid, I’ve been looking at muscle magazines,” Mr. Bell said in an interview. “I would see these guys that are huge, and they’d say, take this pill and you’ll look like this. We know that’s not the case.”

Mr. Boeving said he had worked with Iovate for nearly nine years and was in the midst of renegotiating his contract when “Bigger, Stronger, Faster” had its premiere at the Sundance Film Festival in January. Mr. Boeving said that after the premiere, he was suspended without pay; he flew to the Iovate headquarters in Ontario to plead his case, but, he said, MuscleTech has not renewed his contract.

Mr. Boeving said he was not allowed to say how much the contract was worth, but said the company’s contracts for athletes typically ranged from $36,000 to $300,000 a year. “I was able to live off my contract, put it that way,” he said.

Though the loss of income is tough, Mr. Boeving said, he does not regret his on-screen candor.

“Even in the film, I said, ‘look, I do take the products I said I take — I do take Hydroxycut, I do take Nitro-Tech, but I take other things as well,’ ” he said. “They felt like people were going to walk away feeling like steroids, not MuscleTech products, made my physique what it is, and they have built this industry on telling people, ‘This is what I did to build my physique,’ ” Mr. Boeving said.
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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2008, 05:09:48 PM »
Props to him for being honest!!!

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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2008, 05:25:58 PM »



loks a lot like sepe when he was modeling , exactly the same kind of physique; anormally full while being lean at the same time, something a truly natural bodybuilder can't achieve .




thanks for confirming to those who doubted it that even models are on low doses of steroids .


now a real natural bodybuilder training the same way as them but not using steroids;




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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2008, 05:30:37 PM »
His sacrifice is noble

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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2008, 05:38:29 PM »
now you know why so many guys lie... ;D
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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2008, 05:40:01 PM »
He doesn't exactly "blast" MuscleTech.  ::)
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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2008, 05:44:34 PM »
I just saw that movie today and I was wondering if he would get in trouble for being so honest about taking steroids. The interview he did was about the honesty of the supplement ads with the ads claiming you can look like the models if you take the supplements and Boeving admitted that he took steroids in addition to the supplements. He said he has been taking steroids since he was 16 years old.

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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2008, 06:05:08 PM »
I wouldn't have said anything, not with $$$ at stake.

What did he think was going to happen? The supplement industry is built on saying supplements are close to or as good as steroids and if you actually take steroids you'll kill yourself and your a big cheater.

If i was Muscletech i would have got rid of him as well.

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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2008, 06:14:02 PM »
To add; Boeving is employed by Muscletech because he looks 'natural', especially compared to Branch, Jay, Dex etc.

So if kids out there see that he needs steroids to look like he does it just kills Muscletech even more than say Branch saying it.

I saw him at an expo about 4 years ago, i always wondered if the look he gave me was cause he was gay or something else lol....

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Iovate dumps Christian Boeving for being "honest"?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2008, 08:42:44 AM »
A "Self-Described" Steroid User Loses Job as Fitness Model
 
By STEPHANIE CLIFFORD
Published: June 9, 2008

With the camera rolling, Christian Boeving, a fitness model who is paid to endorse bodybuilding products, freely admitted he had used steroids since he was 16.

That was two years ago, when a friend from the gym he uses, Christopher Bell, was filming “Bigger, Stronger, Faster,” a documentary on steroids that was released on May 30.

Mr. Boeving said he had nearly forgotten about the interview until he heard from the film’s representatives just before it was shown in January at the Sundance Film Festival. “They said, ‘Look, we’re just letting you know you mentioned the word steroids in it,’ ” Mr. Boeving said. “But I didn’t think I would get into that much trouble, because I thought it was pretty apparent that the top people in the industry use steroids to look like we do.”

A company whose products he endorsed, Iovate Health Sciences, apparently did not think so, and promptly severed Mr. Boeving’s contract. Iovate Health Sciences did not return calls for comment last week.

Mr. Boeving had represented over-the-counter dietary supplements in Iovate’s MuscleTech division, including Hydroxycut, which is meant to burn fat, and Nitro-Tech, which is meant to build muscle. But the type of performance-enhancing steroids Mr. Boeving referred to in the movie are legal only with a doctor’s prescription; he said in an interview that he had a prescription for testosterone.

While he may not been breaking the law, Mr. Boeving was apparently breaking a taboo in the bodybuilding world, one that Mr. Bell’s documentary was aiming to expose. “Ever since I was a kid, I’ve been looking at muscle magazines,” Mr. Bell said in an interview. “I would see these guys that are huge, and they’d say, take this pill and you’ll look like this. We know that’s not the case.”

Mr. Boeving said he had worked with Iovate for nearly nine years and was in the midst of renegotiating his contract when “Bigger, Stronger, Faster” had its premiere at the Sundance Film Festival in January. Mr. Boeving said that after the premiere, he was suspended without pay; he flew to the Iovate headquarters in Ontario to plead his case, but, he said, MuscleTech has not renewed his contract.

Mr. Boeving said he was not allowed to say how much the contract was worth, but said the company’s contracts for athletes typically ranged from $36,000 to $300,000 a year. “I was able to live off my contract, put it that way,” he said.

Though the loss of income is tough, Mr. Boeving said, he does not regret his on-screen candor.

“Even in the film, I said, ‘look, I do take the products I said I take — I do take Hydroxycut, I do take Nitro-Tech, but I take other things as well,’ ” he said. “They felt like people were going to walk away feeling like steroids, not MuscleTech products, made my physique what it is, and they have built this industry on telling people, ‘This is what I did to build my physique,’ ” Mr. Boeving said.


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Re: Iovate dumps Christian Boeving for being "honest"?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2008, 08:45:10 AM »
oh brother...this was already posted ::)
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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2008, 08:48:25 AM »
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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2008, 09:32:57 AM »
Christian is a good guy but don't don't ever have him emcee your show.  And he doesn't have as much power with mags as he says (article wise)

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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2008, 09:34:32 AM »
funny thing is most of the people on this board still think that protein powder and / or creatine are useful.

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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2008, 09:37:15 AM »
funny thing is most of the people on this board still think that protein powder and / or creatine are useful.
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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2008, 09:48:29 AM »
He would be VERY wise not to try any kind of smear campaign or voice too publicly his opinions about a company with bottomless pockets I'm thinking...

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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2008, 09:57:55 AM »
He would be VERY wise not to try any kind of smear campaign or voice too publicly his opinions about a company with bottomless pockets I'm thinking...
Are you joking? MT Inc has done enough to shamelessly OWn themself each and everytime they release another 'special-4 page ad report'.

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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2008, 09:58:41 AM »
oh SNAP i forgot today was monday

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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2008, 10:21:22 AM »
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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2008, 10:36:41 AM »
Listen to CHRISTIAN BOEVING Live and Uncensored tonight on BIG NATION Radio at 7pm EST/4pm PST!

Wow! Christian in the New York Times and on BNR the same night...sounds a little too coincidential!

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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2008, 10:39:12 AM »
Is this the guy who did all these "Muscletech-Interviews" ?? :D ::)


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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2008, 10:40:20 AM »
Listen to CHRISTIAN BOEVING Live and Uncensored tonight on BIG NATION Radio at 7pm EST/4pm PST!

Wow! Christian in the New York Times and on BNR the same night...sounds a little too coincidential!

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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2008, 10:43:49 AM »
in this business it seems you get penalized and hated for actually telling the truth, like Nasser did only for the idiot fans he did it for to turn around and attack him

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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2008, 10:46:47 AM »
in this business it seems you get penalized and hated for actually telling the truth, like Nasser did only for the idiot fans he did it for to turn around and attack him
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Re: Boeving Blasts MuscleTEch in New York Times
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2008, 10:47:50 AM »
He would be VERY wise not to try any kind of smear campaign or voice too publicly his opinions about a company with bottomless pockets I'm thinking...

Dude, look at this way. I'd be willing to bet if someone REALLY REALLY wanted to they could bring a class action for the false statements and advertising that would eventually put them under. They have good convincing ads but anyone with any commonsense knows it bullshit.