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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2008, 05:12:34 PM »
If I had US citizenship I'd join the Marines and then vote for John McCain

he has more experience and seems better suited for the office

Thank heavens you don't

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2008, 05:17:11 PM »
The two of them haven't even started debating yet. Obama will make McCain and the republican party look incompetent. This country is seven trillion dollars in debt because of the current republican administration.

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2008, 06:12:41 PM »
If I had US citizenship I'd join the Marines and then vote for John McCain

he has more experience and seems better suited for the office

They are both idiots and we are totally screwed no matter who get elected.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2008, 06:20:43 PM »

Get this through your head, folks....

WHITE PEOPLE LIE.

That is all. 

(Note: I see nothing at all wrong or unethical about lying to pollsters)

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2008, 06:21:39 PM »
National head-to-head polls are meaningless, since that's not the way we elect presidents.  You need to do state-by-state polls and add up the electoral votes.  You also need to limit the polls to "likely voters", otherwise you get lots of people who offer an opinion, but will not weigh in on election day. 

If you do it this way, there several "battleground states" that are tied or the poll is within the margin of error.  This thing could go either way, depending on how those particular states fall. 

But, the liberal media loves to do "national polls", since they usually favor their boy, even though it won't mean jack on election day.
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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2008, 06:23:56 PM »
National head-to-head polls are meaningless, since that's not the way we elect presidents.  You need to do state-by-state polls and add up the electoral votes.  You also need to limit the polls to "likely voters", otherwise you get lots of people who offer an opinion, but will not weigh in on election day. 

If you do it this way, there several "battleground states" that are tied or the poll is within the margin of error.  This thing could go either way, depending on how those particular states fall. 

But, the liberal media loves to do "national polls", since they usually favor their boy, even though it won't mean jack on election day.
meaningless until 1 month out

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2008, 06:24:23 PM »
National head-to-head polls are meaningless, since that's not the way we elect presidents.  You need to do state-by-state polls and add up the electoral votes.  You also need to limit the polls to "likely voters", otherwise you get lots of people who offer an opinion, but will not weigh in on election day. 

If you do it this way, there several "battleground states" that are tied or the poll is within the margin of error.  This thing could go either way, depending on how those particular states fall. 

But, the liberal media loves to do "national polls", since they usually favor their boy, even though it won't mean jack on election day.

You would think with all the dead people that vote democrat, they would have no problem.  :-\

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2008, 06:24:48 PM »
National head-to-head polls are meaningless, since that's not the way we elect presidents.  You need to do state-by-state polls and add up the electoral votes.  You also need to limit the polls to "likely voters", otherwise you get lots of people who offer an opinion, but will not weigh in on election day. 

If you do it this way, there several "battleground states" that are tied or the poll is within the margin of error.  This thing could go either way, depending on how those particular states fall. 

But, the liberal media loves to do "national polls", since they usually favor their boy, even though it won't mean jack on election day.

You're wrong.

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2008, 06:25:52 PM »
National head-to-head polls are meaningless, since that's not the way we elect presidents.  You need to do state-by-state polls and add up the electoral votes.  You also need to limit the polls to "likely voters", otherwise you get lots of people who offer an opinion, but will not weigh in on election day. 

If you do it this way, there several "battleground states" that are tied or the poll is within the margin of error.  This thing could go either way, depending on how those particular states fall. 

But, the liberal media loves to do "national polls", since they usually favor their boy, even though it won't mean jack on election day.

It's been confirmed that NC is going to Obama. 

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2008, 06:27:30 PM »

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2008, 06:30:02 PM »
It's been confirmed that NC is going to Obama. 


The two most recent polls in NC show McCain ahead:

http://www.270towin.com/states/North_Carolina


Although one of them is within the margin of error.
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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2008, 06:31:43 PM »
got "Hope"?  ::)

Obama is the next President.

Get over it.

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2008, 06:33:32 PM »
You're wrong.

I'm wrong that we use a state-by-state electoral college system and national polls are therefore meaningless?

I'm wrong that the only relevant polls are those that include only "likely voters"?

I'm wrong that there are several swing states where the polls are within the margin of error?




Okay, "mark kerr".   ::)
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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2008, 06:33:47 PM »
Obama is the next President.

Get over it.

Will never  happen

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2008, 06:34:10 PM »
You're all correct...

... McCain is pathetic.  He has to be to be losing to a racist, ultra-left idealogue with no credibility, running a campaign of no substance.

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2008, 06:34:32 PM »
I'm wrong that we use a state-by-state electoral college system and national polls are therefore meaningless?

I'm wrong that the only relevant polls are those that include only "likely voters"?

I'm wrong that there are several swing states where the polls are within the margin of error?




Okay, "mark kerr".   ::)

Yes, Mark Kerr, ba haha

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2008, 06:34:56 PM »
Obama is the next President.

Get over it.

Agreed.

Not happy, but life goes on.  :)

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2008, 06:38:42 PM »
I'm wrong that we use a state-by-state electoral college system and national polls are therefore meaningless?

I'm wrong that the only relevant polls are those that include only "likely voters"?

I'm wrong that there are several swing states where the polls are within the margin of error?




Okay, "mark kerr".   ::)

Yes, you are wrong.

I will bring this thread back up in November to prove you wrong.

This country is sick of the republican bullshit.

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2008, 06:40:45 PM »

The two most recent polls in NC show McCain ahead:

http://www.270towin.com/states/North_Carolina


Although one of them is within the margin of error.

The 'White People Lie' thing goes in that direction, too. :)

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2008, 06:44:10 PM »
Barak:

The New Jimmy Carter

hahaha and despite that, people will still blindly vote for him because it's the popular position to have  ::)


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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2008, 06:49:40 PM »
hahaha and despite that, people will still blindly vote for him because it's the popular position to have  ::)



Absolutely.. good point.  I have yet to meet anyone for Obama who isn't dumb as a brick and trendy out the ass.


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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #46 on: June 12, 2008, 06:57:21 PM »
Absolutely.. good point.  I have yet to meet anyone for Obama who isn't dumb as a brick and trendy out the ass.



Who would you vote for, McCain or Obama?

Those are our only choices.

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #47 on: June 12, 2008, 06:57:46 PM »
Who would you vote for, McCain or Obama?

Those are our only choices.

 :'(

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #48 on: June 12, 2008, 06:59:25 PM »
:'(

It's sad.

We're fucked, either way.

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Re: Obama beating McCain in national polls
« Reply #49 on: June 12, 2008, 07:04:46 PM »
Who would you vote for, McCain or Obama?

Those are our only choices.


McCain easy.. better an ineffectual, brain-damaged repub keeping things in gridlock than an elitist, social extremist bent on wealth redistribution and even LARGER gov't.

McCain might be a slight improvement to a mild disaster but there is no doubt Obama would trash this country.