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Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« on: June 13, 2008, 08:24:37 AM »
Good option or not?

I just want a decent laptop, nothing fancy, not too expensive. 1000-1500 euro budget. I'll be travelling with it, and maybe watch a dvd now and then. For the rest just mails, internet...
I've been hearing that Vista is shit and people praising macs, so does anybody have experience with the (regular) macbook.
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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2008, 03:25:38 PM »
GF and I just got them. So much smarter than my old laptop and a much better machine all around. Crazy battery life too!

I'm getting a desktop later this year from Mac too. Such a beautiful screen.... it's just begging for RedTube!!

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2008, 10:58:34 PM »
Apple products are the number one cause of gay in the Western world.

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2008, 11:43:00 PM »
Good option or not?

I just want a decent laptop, nothing fancy, not too expensive. 1000-1500 euro budget. I'll be travelling with it, and maybe watch a dvd now and then. For the rest just mails, internet...
I've been hearing that Vista is shit and people praising macs, so does anybody have experience with the (regular) macbook.

macbooks are gay and osx is for jews & homos.

ibm/toshiba/dell

in that order, i use dell because personally i think they are pretty decent + the tech support/warranty is pretty decent aswel.
IBM does some big laptops, kinda heavy, but they are just good and durable.
Toshiba, nothing to say, good price, good quality, perfect hardware.

spending more than 1000 euros is useless, within a year you will be changing your laptop, so why waste more? You are not either what is considered a power user (maybe im wrong?) so, a dell for us$1000 will be good enough for your needs.
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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2008, 05:22:51 AM »
You can get a macbook for around $1000.

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2008, 07:59:28 AM »
Good option or not?

I just want a decent laptop, nothing fancy, not too expensive. 1000-1500 euro budget. I'll be travelling with it, and maybe watch a dvd now and then. For the rest just mails, internet...
I've been hearing that Vista is shit and people praising macs, so does anybody have experience with the (regular) macbook.

I have a black Macbook and love it, but it is not my primary computer.  I use it when I travel or when I am on another floor in the house.  I have a Mac Pro for my main computer at home.  As a general rule, I don’t think laptops make for a good primary computing experience, but that’s just me.  I am used to working on a big monitor, lots of computing power and endless HD space and RAM.  By definition a laptop is a compromised computing experience; the trade off is the portability you get with laptop.

The Macbook is a great second computer for me.  But for the purposes you describe (a dvd now and then. For the rest just mails, internet) it should be perfect.  Though I would caution that the audio out on the Macbook is very weak.  Even at full volume it is the weakest sound of any laptop Mac I have ever used.  If you are going to use it to listen to any audio (DVD, music, etc.) you will need to use earbuds or plug in external speakers.

For a first time buyer I would recommend an iMac, but if you do get the Macbook, I would recommend that you buy it online from Apple’s online store so you can configure it to your liking.  That is to say, you should buy it with the biggest hard drive they offer (260GB) and at least 2mb of memory.  I know that will cost more, but you don’t want cheapest, you want the best value.  A penny pinching friend of mine refused to listen to me and bought the absolute cheapest Macbook he could find and now he is very unhappy because it does not have enough memory to do the things he wants to do and he is already running out of HD space.  I have had to stop myself several times from saying “I told you so.”

btw, once you get a Mac be sure to use the Mail program that comes with it, and link it with your gmail account or yahoo mail account.  When used with one of those services Apple’s Mail program is a great way to read, store, manage, sort, or search your old emails!


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I’ve received a few PMs on this and related subjects so I thought I’d save myself some time.  If you are new to the Mac (iMac, MacPro, Macbook, Macbook Pro, etc) there are some things every Mac user should have installed that do not come with the computer.  You can download them as indicated.


LimeWire
http://www.limewire.com/
With this program you can connect to the gnutella network and share (download and upload) all kinds of files: music, data, software, porn, etc.  If you file share a lot it is worth getting Limewire Pro


HandBrake
http://handbrake.fr/?article=download
Rip (the same way you rip CDs) any DVD on to your computer hard drive and watch them when ever you want as a QuickTime movie.  Depending on how powerful your Mac is, ripping a DVD can take 10-60 minutes or more.  With this program you can customize your rips.  For example, you can rip an entire movie or specific chapter/scenes from a DVD.  Or you can rip a DVD and include the subtitles (in English or another language).  Or rip the DVD in an audio track other than English; this is great if you like foreign films.  I have dozens of ripped movies on my hard drive.


Google Earth
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Travel the country, the world, or even outer space, without leaving your computer


Firefox
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
I like Safari too, but it’s important to have more than one browser on your Mac—just in case you need to try visiting a site with something other than Safari.


RealPlayer
http://www.real.com/
Download the Free Player—not the 14-Day SuperPass trial.  It’s not as popular as it once was but Real still represents an audio standard that you need to have installed.  NPR, for example, uses Real.


Adobe Reader
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
Read any and all Acrobat or PDF files.  Yes, the Mac comes with Preview, but Reader is more powerful and flexible.


Microsoft Office
Love it or hate it, you simply have to have Office installed.


Flip4mac
http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv_download.htm
Import, Export & Play Windows Media on your Mac!  Once installed this program will enable you to open video files you previously could not open (like .avi files) as QuickTime movies.


Toast
http://www.roxio.com/
With this DVD & CD burning software you can manage your (data) DVDs like a pro.  Toast is a commercial program and while I cannot endorse you obtaining it via illegal file sharing, I can’t stop you from doing it either.


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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2008, 10:09:05 AM »
Good option or not?

I just want a decent laptop, nothing fancy, not too expensive. 1000-1500 euro budget. I'll be travelling with it, and maybe watch a dvd now and then. For the rest just mails, internet...
I've been hearing that Vista is shit and people praising macs, so does anybody have experience with the (regular) macbook.

I owned a Mac for years and sold it to get a PC.  The person I sold it to said I would "be sorry."  He was right.  I used my Mac extensively for years and never had a single problem.  Not so with my PC.  I'm going back to a Mac this year. 

I was polling my office to check their preferences and I found it telling that arguably the three smartest people in my office own Macs. 

I bought my daughter a Dell last year, after she refused my recommendation that she get a Mac.  She has now had it serviced for the third time and has "giftee" remorse.  :)

I don't think I've ever heard a Mac owner complain about their Macs.  They love them. 

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2008, 11:21:37 AM »
Thx guys. I know that a regular computer gives a better experience than a laptop, but i will be travelling with it, so i need a laptop. I'm leaning more and more towards a macbook. I can always run a windows emulator on it.

One more question:
Is it a "quiet" laptop? My brother has another laptop, but during heavy calculations, or when it is running for a while the cooling starts to make a shitload of noise. Really annoying when you are trying to enjoy a film.

Edit: Nevermind, i've read some reviews and they claim it's really silent.
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2976&review=Apple+MacBook+White+Color+Version


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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2008, 11:26:45 AM »
When you buy a mac, you become a TYPICAL MACINTOSH USER

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2008, 12:53:57 PM »
I'd be very wary of a homosexual Mac user that recommends RealPlayer...

My suggestion for video software: VLC media player

My Dell with dual core 2.2Ghz Intel +  4Gb of RAM cost roughly $1000 from Dell (January). Apple equivalent of that is double the price.
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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2008, 07:57:51 AM »
Thx guys. I know that a regular computer gives a better experience than a laptop, but i will be travelling with it, so i need a laptop. I'm leaning more and more towards a macbook. I can always run a windows emulator on it.

One more question:
Is it a "quiet" laptop? My brother has another laptop, but during heavy calculations, or when it is running for a while the cooling starts to make a shitload of noise. Really annoying when you are trying to enjoy a film.

Edit: Nevermind, i've read some reviews and they claim it's really silent.
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2976&review=Apple+MacBook+White+Color+Version


I disagree.  The Macbook is a very compact case and it runs hot.  That is to say, it starts to get hot very quickly if you are calling on the processor and this causes the fan to come on—and stay on.  The fan is noisy.  Not unacceptably so but noisy enough to defeat the puny speakers.

This is not at all a problem if you are using earbuds or external speakers but if you are planning to use the Macbook to watch DVDs or listen to other audio without attached speakers you will be very disappointed.  Even in a relatively quiet room (a hotel room for example) with the volume all the way up the sound is inadequate; this machine was simply not made for people who need audio which is fine because the people who buy this machine do not want it for that.  I repeat: the speakers on the Macbook are hopelessly overpowered by any ambient noise. 

If you want a Mac laptop that has good sound get a Macbook Pro.

I do not recommend the Macbook Air.


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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2008, 08:02:26 AM »
All lap top speakers are usless for DVDs or music not just the MAC.
I use head phones when I am business and I want to watch a DVD at night.

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2008, 08:06:48 AM »
I have a 10-year old purple iMac and I want a macbook badly, now


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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2008, 08:14:05 AM »
One of my funniest jobs:  I was the gm/booking agent/receptionist at a recording studio.  I received a letter to say that a delivery was to be expected from Apple.

So I cleared the whole front desk.  But they took it downstairs to the studio and made music with it.


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(I haven't put that on my CV, I've left that off.  I was also expected to clap and and dance and go fetch the cocaine...



But you must buy Apple Mac.  Bill Gates waited till their copyright expired then ripped them off.

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2008, 08:25:08 AM »
Apple equivalent of that is double the price.


we mac enthusiasts like to pay extra.

I paid £999 for this purple iMac ten years ago and it still works wonderfully.  It's £10 for the new OS if you know someone...



Are you buying that new flat one the size of a small envelope?  Waaaaaaa

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2008, 08:43:37 AM »
pc user?

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2008, 08:46:16 AM »
and here's another Bill Gates fan.

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2008, 08:58:05 AM »

Google Earth
http://www.google.com/earth/download-earth.html
Travel the country, the world, or even outer space, without leaving your computer


Firefox
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
I like Safari too, but it’s important to have more than one browser on your Mac—just in case you need to try visiting a site with something other than Safari.


RealPlayer
http://www.real.com/
Download the Free Player—not the 14-Day SuperPass trial.  It’s not as popular as it once was but Real still represents an audio standard that you need to have installed.  NPR, for example, uses Real.


Adobe Reader
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
Read any and all Acrobat or PDF files.  Yes, the Mac comes with Preview, but Reader is more powerful and flexible.


Microsoft Office
Love it or hate it, you simply have to have Office installed.


Flip4mac
http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv_download.htm
Import, Export & Play Windows Media on your Mac!  Once installed this program will enable you to open video files you previously could not open (like .avi files) as QuickTime movies.


Toast
http://www.roxio.com/
With this DVD & CD burning software you can manage your (data) DVDs like a pro.  Toast is a commercial program and while I cannot endorse you obtaining it via illegal file sharing, I can’t stop you from doing it either. [/i]


hey thanks mr baybgm.  I've got most of that.  Must try flip4mac next.  But my limewire recently went all fucky, think it's illegal...

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2008, 09:17:53 AM »
hey thanks mr baybgm.  I've got most of that.  Must try flip4mac next.  But my limewire recently went all fucky, think it's illegal...

You may be using an older version of LimeWire.  Trash it.  Then download and install the latest version.

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2008, 09:19:12 AM »
Hey?  is there a better option?   I absolutley hate Mr Gates's Windows...

Microsoft Office
Love it or hate it, you simply have to have Office installed.


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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2008, 09:22:44 AM »
You may be using an older version of LimeWire.  Trash it.  Then download and install the latest version.


of course you're right.  but i didn't dare try again, I got it for free.

everyone else I know is pc and downloaded napster.  Think they got shut down?



Am I safe to download limewire again?


this is fun

can you explain how to use this new mobile phone I've got?  Doubt I bought the right one...
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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2008, 09:30:14 AM »

of course you're right.  but i didn't dare try again, I got it for free.

everyone else I know is pc and downloaded napster.  Think they got shut down?

Am I safe to download limewire again?


this is fun

can you explain how to use this new mobile phone I've got?
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I am running Mac version 4.11 Pro, use it every day, and never have a problem.  The newest Mac version is 4.18.2

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2008, 10:05:42 AM »
I am looking to buy a new laptop.  I have a fairly new one now it is barely a year old if that.  It has a 17" screen.  It is a Toshiba.  I really like it but it is time to buy another one.  I am thinking about the MAC but I am concerned about all the software I have like my CS2 Photoshop, Autosketch, Microsoft Office Pro and a couple others.  Am I going to have o buy all new software or will these go right in.  If they do then no doubt I will buy a new Mac laptop with the 17" screen.  For the gym I was looking at the new Sony Vaio LT desktop with the harddrive and everything built into the floating monitor.  Really cool  I need 13 of them.

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2008, 10:41:52 AM »
Hey?  is there a better option?   I absolutley hate Mr Gates's Windows...

Microsoft Office
Love it or hate it, you simply have to have Office installed.



There are alternatives but IMO there is no better option.  Office is too much of a standard to ignore.  btw, Windows is an operating system on the PC; it has nothing to do with Office applications on the Mac.

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Re: Buying a new laptop: the macbook
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2008, 02:12:13 PM »
we mac enthusiasts like to pay extra.

Mac users are stupid then.
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