The USA is the best country in the world to live in...if....

[Nordic Superman]

You go to far Nordic! Remember he went to Niagara Falls

Not sure why it made it worse, as I was directly referencing his statement, which was personal in nature. My entire premise of using the term 'for them' was as 240 said he felt it was best 'for him'. 

Plus, the guy is a mega gun lover, so that knocks out much of the 1st world for him anyway, as that is important to him. Anyway, I probably should not have said anything, as we could be going back and forth here for the next 5 years at this rate lol. We differ on our opinions of 'insularity' is all.

It is worse because it is personal, and he has no personal experience of anywhere else, not even on the level of having a vacation in another country. Not even the US neighbours Mexico and Canada.

If you think it's a valid premise, then fine, but it's quite obvious to me that you require little persuading in anything.

It's too late. The UK is flooded with Muslims and Mosques....point of no return.

Debussey DF, I know you still have belief the issue will be resurrected but I have to agree with Deicide.

To use an ARABIC proverb: the straw that broke the camel's back has already be placed.

[The Master]

It's too late. The UK is flooded with Muslims and Mosques....point of no return.

A complete elimination of these vermin might be difficult, yes, but:  An eventual stop of muslim immigration, the natural declining birth rates among these retards (when coming to a rich country) and hard pressure on them (and some violence just to state the point ) to adapt will work. You also forget that there will both be a "watering out" in teh average muslim over time, and eventually the rest of britain will get enough and snap. These idiots are just 2,7% of your population, and eventually people will get enough.

There is a reason why the muslims in Norway = extremely well behaved compared to the muzzies in Britain. It is because you ginger fuccs have not yet rediscovered your WW2 cock'n balls, while letting these uncivilized assholes run things their own way. Hell, in Norway, 6 - 7% of medical students comes from Pakistan, and becoming a medical student in Norway requires one to have a GPA of close to 4.00. It is the same genetic material, yet a different outcome.

[Saxon]

I am just waiting for the Korea apologist to come back.

I wasn't defending Korea, never been and all I know is they eat dogs.  I was just pointing out the fact that you have no idea what a second world country actually is.

[Deicide]

A complete elimination of these vermin might be difficult, yes, but:  An eventual stop of muslim immigration, the natural declining birth rates among these retards (when coming to a rich country) and hard pressure on them (and some violence just to state the point ) to adapt will work. You also forget that there will both be a "watering out" in teh average muslim over time, and eventually the rest of britain will get enough and snap. These idiots are just 2,7% of your population, and eventually people will get enough.

There is a reason why the muslims in Norway = extremely well behaved compared to the muzzies in Britain. It is because you ginger fuccs have not yet rediscovered your WW2 cock'n balls, while letting these uncivilized assholes run things their own way. Hell, in Norway, 6 - 7% of medical students comes from Pakistan, and becoming a medical student in Norway requires one to have a GPA of close to 4.00. It is the same genetic material, yet a different outcome.

Blair's fault...

[Deicide]

I wasn't defending Korea, never been and all I know is they eat dogs.  I was just pointing out the fact that you have no idea what a second world country actually is.

Whatever. 

[The Master]

Blair's fault...

Shit, when Debussey thinks of it:

The muslim council in Norway has had a regular "interfaith" dialogue with the highest church organ in Norway since 1993. In Britain, muslims are out in the streets crying "death to europe".

Many "leading" muslim "community figures" in Norway are going openly out with clear support for freedom of speech, gay rights and so on (what they say in their private homes are not that important, they are still behaving)

A pretty rich muslim businessman even wanted to pay that well known terrorist "Mulla Krekar" like 100000USD to leave Norway a couple of years ago.

Of course, do not misunderstand, Debussey still can't handle them, and a lot of negative shit comes with them, but at least: It is the same group of people, yet they have pretty much successfully integrated in Norway compared to other countries.

It's like a dog, you got to leverage fear and pressure to get it to behave the way you want.

[The Master]

It seems like most immigration problems in Norway comes from certain groups of people from Somalia and so on, they integrate poorly. At the same time, it seems like the problem there is not primarely religion (since most of them have no clue about their so called "religion"), but a combination of their culture (which of course = influenced by religion), the fact that many of them are former kids-soldiers and the fact that they are poorly educated and have a low IQ, and nobody really wants somali troublemakers here. (hell, "Somalia" does not even have a gouvernment, and their culture is praising lazyness, Fuccing idiots).

The same applies to other groups that integrate poorly into society. Most of them are extremely poorly educated (can't read for example), they are simply not that intelligent, and they come from war torn countries.

Luckily, there might come new immigration laws soon that will restrict the immigration of these "poorly-integrateable" groups, as it benefits both society and because most people are fucking fed up with "immigrants" that don't behave.

At the same time, it seems like there are 2% MORE immigrants (mostly 3rd world immigrants, 1st and 2 generation) than native norwegians that take higher education. Orientals and Pakistanis and so on are highly represented here. This is a good thing

[Nordic Superman]

Somalians really disgust me. Why the hell would ANY country open their doors to them?

Pure vermin. The only race I really dislike.

[Benny B]

Somalians really disgust me. Why the hell would ANY country open their doors to them?

Pure vermin. The only race I really dislike.

Somalis are not a "race". 

[The Master]

Somalians really disgust me. Why the hell would ANY country open their doors to them?

Pure vermin. The only race I really dislike.

Agreed.

Some Somali individuals that have integrated can be ok (unfortunately, they are the minority), but their native culture and their fucced upness: they can go to hell. Somalis are severely overrepresented on crime statistics and unemployment statistics in Norway. Debussey can't wait for the day when the immigration of these vermin = stopped.

Of course, part of the reason for their high unemployment = that nobody wants to hire them

As a group they succ cock. Debussey thinks that they suffer from "low IQ"

[Nordic Superman]

Somalis are not a "race". 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_people

My apologies young Somali. They are in fact a Ethnic group. They are VERY different (along with Ethiopians) than any other demographic in the African sub-continent.

Technically, I don't think describing them as a race is absolutely false.

[The Master]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_people

My apologies young Somali. They are in fact a Ethnic group. They are VERY different (along with Ethiopians) than any other demographic in the African sub-continent.

Technically, I don't think describing them as a race is absolutely false.

Who cares? They fail in every society they immigrate to, and their own country = fucced up.

Somalis seriously suck as a group. It might have something to do with their DNA.

 

[Deicide]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_people

My apologies young Somali. They are in fact a Ethnic group. They are VERY different (along with Ethiopians) than any other demographic in the African sub-continent.

Technically, I don't think describing them as a race is absolutely false.

Somalis probably have Haplotype markers.

[The Master]

It's funny how politicians and stuff still behave as if everybody is created equal, like differences between people don't exist.

Let's face it, certain groups of people just functions poorly in a civilized society unless a lot of force = applied to them. Still, the politicians are like: "Hey somalis, we need workers (highly educated workers like engineers that is, not ditch diggers, but lets forget to mention that) to boost our economy. Come to us and solve our economic problems (although you'll end up on welfare and contributing nothing, but we really can't say that). We won't accept highly skilled hindus from India or easily integrateable orientals with good academic potential that could ACTUALLY boost the economy, no, we believe you somalis will do the job just as well (although we know that all research say you won't and probably can't) so we'll take you in and not getting anything but crime, welfare dependence and more hate against immigrants.


Certain groups of people (not neccessarily race, but just "low IQ people) does extremely poor in education because they frankly lack the proper genetic material for sufficient intelligence. Threating people like this the same way as the rest of the population might be fine in the "ideology", but it is a worthless way of thinking pragmatically speaking. They are still gonna fail, and fail big time, becaue they just don't have what it takes.

Let us fight for benign eugenics 

[Deicide]

It's funny how politicians and stuff still behave as if everybody is created equal, like differences between people don't exist.

Let's face it, certain groups of people just functions poorly in a civilized society unless a lot of force = applied to them.

Certain groups of people (not neccessarily race, but just "low IQ people) does extremely poor in education because they frankly lack the proper genetic material for sufficient intelligence. Threating people like this the same way as the rest of the population might be fine in the "ideology", but it is a worthless way of thinking pragmatically speaking. They are still gonna fail, and fail big time, becaue they just don't have what it takes.

Let us fight for benign eugenics 

I am growing increasingly worried about your English son; I recall it being better at an earlier point in time.

Have you been doining non-stop math and music of late?

[The Master]

I am growing increasingly worried about your English son; I recall it being better at an earlier point in time.

Have you been doining non-stop math and music of late?

No, Debussey just don't care to proof read its posts. It = write -> Post 

But Debussey will man up and start checking it's english for mistakes. Debussey needs to anyway, if it wants to ace the upcoming TOEFL test and be a top 0,1%. 

[Deicide]

No, Debussey just don't care to proof read its posts. It = write -> Post 

But Debussey will man up and start checking it's english for mistakes. Debussey needs to anyway, if it wants to ace the TOEFL test and be a top 0,5%. 

Indeed.

[The Master]

Indeed.

Debussey changed the 0,5% -> 0,1%. Not being top 0,1% or higher in anything that has to do with intelligence = unacceptable


This = an illusion though, since Debusseys IQ = 53

[240 is Back]

how cna you measure how 'best' a country is?  Do you compare its top cities?  its lowest?  crime rates?

I can assure you that the bes tplace in the worst country dwarfs the worst place in the best country.  The nicest street in afghanistan is was better than the shittiest slum in germany.  Is afghan. better than ger?

[Camel Jockey]

Debussey, it's similar in America. Sure there are things that might boil your blood, but for the most part most "muslims" are well behaved here and a lot are even non practicing.

I've been saying that its as much a fault of the british government and people for catering to the needs to people who're let in and contribute almost nothing. The US has this problem with mexican immigrants, but atleast they provide cheap labor and keep our food costs from sky rocketing.

The USA still provides one with the chance at the American Dream; just that it's not as simple or easy as before. And this is not only due to a slower economy, but an emerging world economy. Be a doomsday prophet all you like, but I'd say we've still got it better than Europe and Canada in many aspects.

[The Master]

Debussey, it's similar in America. Sure there are things that might boil your blood, but for the most part most "muslims" are well behaved here and a lot are even non practicing.

I've been saying that its as much a fault of the british government and people for catering to the needs to people who're let in and contribute almost nothing. The US has this problem with mexican immigrants, but atleast they provide cheap labor and keep our food costs from sky rocketing.

The USA still provides one with the chance at the American Dream; just that it's not as simple or easy as before. And this is not only due to a slower economy, but an emerging world economy. Be a doomsday prophet all you like, but I'd say we've still got it better than Europe and Canada in many aspects.

Why do you think Debussey will be relocating to the US in a couple of years?

[240 is Back]

The best country I imagine is an overall of numerous things, like level of democracy, average life expectancy, level of healthcare, crime rates.

In your opinion, what are the top 3 countries, and what is the specific criteria you use to make this evaluation?

[Fury]

Keep on digging your grave

The best country I imagine is an overall of numerous things, like level of democracy, average life expectancy, level of healthcare, crime rates.

Japan.

[240 is Back]

In your opinion, what are the top 3 countries, and what is the specific criteria you use to make this evaluation?

Nordic, you called me stupid for not having an answer, so I'm asking you.

Please list your top 3 nations in the world to live in, along with the rubric/scale/% you used to justify this ranking.

If you are indeed my intellectual superior, I'll happily admit it.  However, if you fail to deliver a well-rounded evaluative measure which includes all relevant factors for making this determination, it's going to look like you were just talking out of your ass.

[Nordic Superman]

Nordic, you called me stupid for not having an answer, so I'm asking you.

Please list your top 3 nations in the world to live in, along with the rubric/scale/% you used to justify this ranking.

If you are indeed my intellectual superior, I'll happily admit it.  However, if you fail to deliver a well-rounded evaluative measure which includes all relevant factors for making this determination, it's going to look like you were just talking out of your ass.

Euro 2008 is on faggot, I'm busy watching France get raped by the Italians.

Top 3?

Switzerland, Japan, Norway

I'm not dissing the US, it's right up there...

Close finalists in my opinion: parts of US (some areas of CA, Hawaii), parts of Britain (Cambridge, Cornwall, parts of Wales & Scotland), Germany (Bavaria), New Zealand, Australia, Iceland, Ireland.